2024 F1 General Discussion Thread

Gremlinertia

My extremely amateur thought the other day was that Jos may think he's got enough onside and behind to want Christian gone.. Could be a mad leap on my behalf but observation of body language crap over race weekend and knowledge of Jos makes me wonder

Gamb!t

What caused the fallout with Horner and the Austrians?

jazz_jazz

He had the Thai majority shareholder hanging with him yesterday. So the Thai side of RB are definitely showing strong support for him.

There are rumours that himself & Marko have had a falling out.

Longing

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121846546#Comment_121846546

Yes looks that way. First we saw FIA president shaking hands in the pit lane for the media then his wife jerry standing by him in support and just before the race the majority shareholders by his side also.

He is not going anywhere.

dulpit

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121846733#Comment_121846733

In telling you, the longer this drags on the more likely he is to go. Red bull won, max had a clean sweep, they got maximum points. People are just talking about the situation. If it doesn't go away by next weekend he's surely dead man walking

jj880

All these manufactured appearances remind me of the "vote of confidence" in a football manager before he gets the boot. What kind of precedent does this set? Can F1 team leads pressure their PAs in this manner and move on like nothing happened? People cant stop talking about it for good reason.

In other professions a guy who abuses his position like Horner would be shown the door. She begged him to stop multiple times mentioning his wife more than once and he kept at it. Just because F1 is a macho sport with macho attitudes there shouldnt be any special treatment for Horner. I dont think teams should be investigating themselves. The FIA need to do something.

mickdw

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121846448#Comment_121846448

As I see it. Dr Marko was tight with Dietrich and is still close to his son and the new Austrian management.

I believe Dr Marko and Horner have fallen out and the rest comes from there.

You then have big shot Jo's thinking he is boss.

It's a complete sh1t show that screams power struggle.

Would never have happened if the old man was still in charge.

Longing

When you have majority share holder behind you this will go only one way. No matter what people think. Money talks in this world simple. The money is behind Christian that not that I'm happy with reading the text may I add.. Why all the staged pictures and photos over the weekend. We stand with this man. Its like a shot across the bout of a ship. Your move and if you don't parley you go, Simple has that. Its a power struggle. Clear has day in front of our eyes.

Longing

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121847064#Comment_121847064

FIA will do jack ****. They are much to blame than anyone else. Having GP in Country's were women are forced to stay at home 24 - 7 in Saudi Arabia classed as **** on a shovel. forced into marriages, despised and beaten need I say anymore. What do the call a family home in Saudi Arabia. A house of horrors and that is no joke.

My brother went to Saudi Arabia a number of years ago to work he is a specialist in Italian plastering like a marble finish. He was called out to the prince's palace to do work on it. All went well. But the horror story's he told me when he returned about the way women were treated was horrific.

Jordan 199

Its race week!

vectra

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121846916#Comment_121846916

I can't see Christian going anywhere. That is IF he is 100% innocent in all this, and if he is, he needs to forget Red Bull investigating. He needs to employ the best of the best lawyers and investigators and probably some top notch IT guys and follow the trail back to it's origin.

Christian can well afford all this if he want's it to go away once and for all and show who the instigator is.

In other news.

Back around 2019/2020 I made light of Charles going to Ferrari. But one member in particular went out of his way to ridicule me and everything I tried to say. Looks like I was correct in my view of Charles.

I have been saying it since last season that Ferrari are backing the wrong horse, and now it appears to be looking that way again.

I sincerely hope Carlos wipes the floor with Charles this season, and gets Perez's seat from 25 on.

AMKC

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121848182#Comment_121848182

"I sincerely hope Carlos wipes the floor with Charles this season, and gets Perez's seat from 25 on."

Me too.

Would love too see Sergio go to Ferrari then but to do that he is going to have to do good this season just not too good. Better than last season at least but not so good that Red Bull want to keep him. That's what he needs so he can go to Ferrari or at least try. Ferrari will want Charles on full form next year and the clear number 1. They know this year it will be harder to do that as Carlos has to put in good form to secure a seat next year and it would be great to see him at Red Bull.

mickdw

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121848337#Comment_121848337

Checo to Ferrari?

He is only going one way and that is out of F1.

Hijpo

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121848425#Comment_121848425

Yeah I think if he's going anywhere he'll be ousting an underperforming rookie or Bottas if he moves on from Kick

Harika

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121847138#Comment_121847138

Marko is in his 80s, might be well on the way out for late retirement.

artanevilla

Crazy photo to pair with the headline on BBC! Gave me a jolt.

thefa

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121848182#Comment_121848182

I’m not sure given the circumstances of the race and the fact that it’s one race, that I’d put too much emphasis on Bahrain as proving Sainz should have been kept on over LeClerc. Long season to go.

There’s not much to suggest Sainz has been better over their 3 years together. Even in 2023, Sainz got a win but LeClerc got more points over the season despite more DNFs.

There’s definitely a significant expectation gap between the two I feel and LeClerc has never really delivered on all of the promise from his first Ferrari season. The car hasn’t been there for a good stint but rare opportunities have been fumbled too.

I do hope Sainz ends up in the Red Bull next season though. I wouldn’t like to see him potentially lose good years to head up Audi/Sauber and would be a good improvement on Perez.

Mitch Connor

Sainz had a good result over le clerc at the weekend, but wasn't le clerc driving a dog of a car with massive steering and balance issues that Sainz wasn't dealing with?

mickdw

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121848495#Comment_121848495

For sure but even more reason for a power struggle. If Jos got Horner out and a friendly team manager in, could he see himself inheriting Dr Markos job and getting some control at the team?

Frank Bullitt

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121849275#Comment_121849275

Very much, his brakes were out of sync from what I read and one was running hotter than the other by 100 degrees. He did extremely well to finish where he did.

I think it is very premature to call Ferrari backing Leclerc the wrong call at this point, especially after just one race of the season. Sainz has been equally erratic at times in the Ferrari, his start to 2022 wasn't the best...no one was saying anything back then.

I am struggling how someone can say they were right about Leclerc and Ferrari has backed the wrong horse, when it's 2-1 to Leclerc since they have been teammates, and he has more wins during the same period as well.

Frank Bullitt

And the latest rumour in the whole Horner and Red Bull situation, Horner is trying to buy the F1 team and has backers in England for it but the Austrians never knew or were aware of it.

This drama is making up for the lack of racing.

dulpit

In other f1 news...

https://twitter.com/BBCSport/status/1764691468315250969?t=KPm_zXBoE_rS7P1co4GpJA&s=19%20

More drama..

Frank Bullitt

All of this does make up for the processional races we will be getting.

And the other rumour is that Max is on the market if Marko leaves Red Bull, it will activate a clause that he can leave early.

This is all mad.

Longing

Look out for Yuki

😂

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0rufEPRWC3o

Mitch Connor

I would assume, maybe incorrectly, they Newry would go if Horner did, so wtf would you want to push the two out? It seems insane yo me.

PsychoPete

Jos was seen chatting to Toto over the weekend and of course the internet has jumped on Max going to Merc for 2025

ctrl-alt-delete

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121850058#Comment_121850058

Would be some laugh to see Max claim a championship in the Merc ahead of Hamilton at Ferrari.

Doubt it will ever happen- in that I can't see Max at another team.

NinjaTruncs

Would max leave if Marko retires? Perhaps you could see it if Marko was kicked from the team, but if he retires I don't see Max suddenly wanting to leave.

For all the criticism Sergio gets he still finished second in Bahrain and second in the championship last year, put someone like Lando into the red bull and Max in say the Merc, I'd have Lando favourite to win over a season.

I also think all the brake imbalance issues from Ferrari are just to save face for Charles finishing behind Carlos, personally I don't think Charles has the mental fortitude to win over the season, it will be interesting next year with Lewis in the car with him, i think they'll cannibalise each others opportunities too much for either of them to be able to win the championship, even if Max wasn't in a red bull

This is it

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121850155#Comment_121850155

Charles can be prone to mistakes at times, but to see him lock up so many times, an experienced driver like that, I don't think it's beyond the realms of possibility that he had an issue...

Harika

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121849555#Comment_121849555

That's actually old news rehashed. This was plan b of Red Bull decided to walk away. What's the price for this team? 2 billion?