2024 F1 General Discussion Thread

wazzzledazzle

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122852115#Comment_122852115

Just stay away from any build up and stick to the actual racing and you'll be grand. The track itself is more than decent

Jacovs

Ugh, and then the qualifying and race are both early saturday and sunday mornings. Which would actually suite me perfectly if I was home, not working both days.

AMKC

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122852146#Comment_122852146

Woo hoo. Suits me perfectly. A nice Qualifying session and a morning race Woohoo.

thefa

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122853368#Comment_122853368

Channel 4 coverage won’t be on until lunchtime on Sunday though. What a disaster!

I don’t take much notice of the hoopla around races. Need to obviously improve some of the organisation versus last year but track should lend itself to a good race.

AMKC

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122855271#Comment_122855271

Breakfast or lunch is good by me. Much better than in the middle of the night or a day late which is really annoying.

Jordan 199

Three more back-to-back races. Murica, Qatar and Abu Dhabi.

dulpit

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122855552#Comment_122855552

Brutal on the teams to make this a triple header. If it wasn't possible to change the order of races would have made much more sense for the last 6 races to be completed as 3 groups of 2 weeks rather than 2 groups of 3.

Captain_Crash

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122856218#Comment_122856218

Not really, all the teams have 3 full garage setups overlapping all season so it makes sense that they all come back and finish pretty much at once. Logistically it may be easier, hence it’s the way it is

furiousox

Interesting video on the Williams mechanics rebuilding Franco's car back at base.

Fair play to them, hope he doesn't put it in the wall this weekend! 😬

https://youtu.be/9Rqf5bZSjWk?si=AaNWjFWqAuWFBEZc

El_Duderino 09

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122856563#Comment_122856563

As many as 3? I knew they had 2 but didn't know they had 3 crews on the go. I suppose if they ship the stuff to Australia it will still take weeks each way. Fair play. The logistics must me mad to work out.

Captain_Crash

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122857627#Comment_122857627

It used to be two but a lot of teams moved to three a few years ago when the season started getting longer and more complex.

dulpit

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122856563#Comment_122856563

I was thinking more of the timezone changes to adapt to in 1 week. UTC-8 to UTC+3 can't be much fun when you don't get to take any sort of break in between.

Captain_Crash

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122857804#Comment_122857804

The drivers and traveling crew (who isn’t all of them anyway) would have a routine to help them. I travel for a living myself and would regularly be -5 then -8 then back to UTC then back -8 all in less than two weeks, it’s not an issue if it’s something your used to.

Barrett

Max is likely to win his fourth World Drivers' Championship this weekend. He only needs to finish ahead of Lando Norris and I think he will do it but I expect greater competition next season for him.

duffman13

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122858714#Comment_122858714

Funnily enough more competition might suit Max if the cars are closer again from the start of the season. Lando was somewhat impacted by the upturn from Ferrari. Max has been by far the most consistent, it'll be a tighter battle but if Ferrari, RedBull, McLaren and Merc are all close, Max will rise to the top.

Can see Piastri going up another level next year aswell.

Busman Paddy Lasty

Yeh. Piastri taking points off Lando and then what way will the points slice between Lewis and Leclerc. Can't wait.

dulpit

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122858797#Comment_122858797

Can see Oscar leading the charge for McLaren next year all going well. The fight between the 2 Ferrari drivers should be epic alright.

mickdw

Ya looking like piastri will own the mclaren team next year. I think this year was Landos best chance for the foreseeable. No chance now.

El_Duderino 09

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122859949#Comment_122859949

That's a bit wild. Where did you get that from? He has potential but there's no way it's looking like he'll 'own' the team next year.

There's a great chance that he'll improve in speed and consistency again next year and will have more battles with Norris. But the idea that he'll completely leapfrog Norris unlikely, in my opinion.

mickdw

I think he will leapfrog norris.

He looks the more reliable and cool headed driver and that is only going to improve further.

Captain_Crash

I agree with Piastri leapfrogging Norris. He’s only behind now because the team have (rightly) prioritised Norris this season but he’s shown for me anyway to be calmer under pressure and I’d expect that once they start next season on a level footing, he’ll quickly show he’s the faster driver!

SureYWouldntYa

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122860372#Comment_122860372

Other than Hungary when has Lando been prioritised over Piastri? Don't recall any other circumstances, I believe Lando is ahead on merit although the difference slightly skewed

I don't get the rhetoric of Piastri beating Lando next year that seems to be the consensus. He may be having a better season in his own right considering he's in year 2 while Lando is year 6, but Lando has his number in quali and race pace more often than not. The only area I see Piastri being better than Lando right now is racecraft and wheel to wheel, but if his quali pace and general race pace isn't as good as Lando it's not much use if Lando is further up the field.

Captain_Crash

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122860987#Comment_122860987

It’s fairly obvious Lando has been prioritised… the team even confirmed it earlier in the season!

https://www.skysports.com/amp/f1/news/12433/13213291/azerbaijan-gp-mclaren-team-principal-andrea-stella-explains-new-lando-norris-and-oscar-piastri-team-orders

Busman Paddy Lasty

During earlier races the pit stop strategies favoured Lando. Not team orders and not immediately obvious bar the 7 point swap in one race.

Piastri seems far more intelligent and mature so his potential seems higher. He seriously needs to improve quali though. I want to see him in a title battle with Max and Lewis. If he tries his wide lines will they push him off!

El_Duderino 09

I think puastri will continue to improve next year. It will be only his third season so he won't be a rookie and will begin to reach his potential. But I don't see him dominating Norris or 'owning' the team as one poster put it.

I'd expect a few point between them either way, but wouldn't expect either to win by a big margin.

AMKC

I think when Lando looks back over this season at the end of the year and seea where he made mistakes or what cost him the WDC I think he will learn from it and do better next and Piastri will too. It should be a good close fight between them next tear.

They will not have it the there own way though as Ferrari, Mercedes and Red Bull will all be in the fight too all improved so it should ve a very good close season.

thefa

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122860987#Comment_122860987

It’s generous to Norris to ignore the contrasting mentalities. Piastri has shown more composure and I’d say ruthlessness at times. Sure he has not been under the same degree of pressure as Norris but that’s where the 4 years extra experience should have counted.

I think that’s one of the appeals of Piastri. Obviously he’s newer and shinier, people are always looking for the next challenger to Max, but the personality with his racing ability on an upward trajectory as shown by some marquee performances are huge positives. If he finds the consistency, easy to imagine a world which sees him overtake Norris.

Maybe the old adage you have to lose one to win one applies to Norris and he’ll come back stronger.

Hard to call at this stage.

McFly85

Norris really didn’t have a title shot this year. The car came into its own about halfway through the season and he only really had 2 dominant wins. He would have had to have been way more consistent than he’s ever looked like being to be in with a chance.

If the car is strong from the off next season could be interesting. Landos the quickest for now but he makes a fair few mistakes and really needs to sort out his starts. Piastris racecraft is superior and he comes across as more mature, get the feeling he has a higher ceiling. It’ll be a fantastic battle between the two.

El_Duderino 09

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122863702#Comment_122863702

The meaning behind 'you have to lose one to win one' is that loss drives improvement. So we're likely looking at both lando and Oscar improving next year. It's brilliant for mclaren and fans. But I really doubt we'll see a dominance by either driver. Maybe a 10% points margin by the end of the season.

dulpit

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122863830#Comment_122863830

Lando was the team leader with the best car for a good chunk of the year. He never really grabbed the chance.

Next year might be different. The car should start the year at the front. The team know that they are in the title fight from the beginning. So we'll see.