Rear-end loader

Reggie.

Got abit of a notion,

I'm currently feed about 30 bales a year to a outwinter feeder about every 6 days.

Currently borrowing a tractor and loader for the job but hate borrowing anything.

Don't need a a loader and the cost of them gor the T6 is about 18k due to it needing the eletronic joystick.

Thinking of a back end loader that works off the lift arms. Surely that would do the job? Old machinery but could throw it on once a week to feed surely.

Water John

Is that one with reaching arms or simply pallet fork design?

Reggie.

Just something yo throw a bale into a feeder. Probably one that lifts up

Just hate borrowing machinery as murphys law is that something will happen. Not enough work to justify any type of front end loader

Water John

I'd say there are lots of them lying idle in yards. I have one here, belongs to a neighbour. I did the pipes on it, it has a grab, so it can catch and lift a dry bale. Would be in trouble with a wet one. Prongs are too short. Maybe should swap out a couple. Still awkward to get netting and wrapping off the bale. I tend to lift the circular feeder, pop in the bale and drop the feeder again. Cattle would need to be the cooperative kind, or else be able to fence them back.

hopeso

One problem with those rear mounted loaders is the weight of the bale is a long way back from the tractor when you start raising it, but the New Holland should cope easily with it. A lot of those loaders mightn't be designed for the weight of a modern bale, so you were probably better looking for a more recent one, that was designed for use with a shear grab. They appear on Done Deal often enough.

emaherx

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058325278/rear-end-loader

Why would it need to be electronic joystick? BILs T6 here has cable controls on a New Holland branded loader (Stoll rebadge)

Reggie.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121442794#Comment_121442794

She is dynamic command. Can't get cables due to the size of the armrest attached to the seat

Reggie.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121442498#Comment_121442498

Yeah that'd the type I'd be looking at

Reggie.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121442436#Comment_121442436

Thats plan B but I prefer to leave the feeder in one spot.

Auld spike on the rear might be back in play

emaherx

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121442994#Comment_121442994

Ah it's a space issue then?

Go left-handed, would it not be better than a rear loader?

https://www.donedeal.ie/otherfarming-for-sale/mx-loader-siute-new-holland/35593717

Aravo

Had a rear end Difco silage grab here. Solid well made machine but not the easiest to put on or take off, especially on a Sunday evening I found. Sold it a few yrs back. They would be ok for hay or straw but not big silage bales and def not big wet silage bales.

funkey_monkey

Would a McConnell Tail Slave suit you?

It could be mounted to rear or front of you have linkage and should not be a large outlay.

Say my name

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121443014#Comment_121443014

If I were @Reggie. I'd be looking for a front end loader.

There's no one in this world has ever regretted or said it was a waste in having one. When it's there. It's there.

There'd surely be a good second hand one available somewhere.

There's even new brands besides Quicke being brought in may be an option. Intertech, with a bit of searching on Donedeal being one. Metal Fach another.

Reggie.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121443119#Comment_121443119

Tried them but no eletronic joystick

Say my name

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121443196#Comment_121443196

This is to wire into the existing joystick on the tractor?

Are you perhaps overthinking it and maybe there's room or a bracket could be fitted somewhere for a joystick that comes with the loader?

*I'm not in latest mechanical minded so regard or disregard this post however you see fit.☹️🤩

mr.stonewall

@Reggie. what about a forklift mast or one of the old ones with a shear grab. Could be done cheap with a tine graph in them. It would keep the weight close then the back of the tractor

Have a look at the following. Grab could be taken off and it could be plumbed easily into the tractor spool valves. https://www.donedeal.ie/feedingequipment-for-sale/clearance-special-redrock-grab-on-mast/35559311

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Reggie.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121443473#Comment_121443473

20 euro?

older by the day

https://www.donedeal.ie/silagegrabs-for-sale/back-loader-grab/35704762

fellows around here give in three hundred bales with a lot worse. Quick attach. I use one, no problems.

The advantage of these over the mast type is that it is easy to attach a bale trailer with it on

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Reggie.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121443720#Comment_121443720

20 euros a week is only 1040 a year. You'd be 18 years paying off a loader

Water John

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121443650#Comment_121443650

Would be def better than the mast one but one would want good weight on the front. No doubt front loader is the best option. That's why you'll find these, in their various guises, lying idle in a lot of yards.

Tileman

Loads of those lying around in yards Reggie. I had one here up to a year ago and I let it off for small money just to get it out of way. Was a good heavy one , would have bee no ideal.

i always found it an awkward brute if a yoke and would never go back since I got the loader.

However for 18k I’d pick up a second tractor with loader. A bit old rough

patsy_mccabe

Reggie, get short chains and shackles and use them to tie the two halves of the round feeder together. Open chains, lift one half around to the back of the other and drop bale. I do it here, only takes 5 mins.

I can't see why a cable type joystick won't work. Just find room for it in the cab.

Reggie.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121443809#Comment_121443809

Might be an option for next year. Alright.

The bigger armrests and screens in the NH DC, auto comm and power comm don't leave alot of space on your right side for anything other than electric controls. The spot is already built into the armset for the little joystick.

Even a second hand loader is over 10k with brackets just hard to justify one when only used a few hours total a year. When I had it on the landini it would be off for over 6 months of the year

K.G.

Maybe we should change tack. what about getting bales placed before winter and moving a fence and feeder every day or so.it works well just feed from the side far away from the way you walk to the field so you are not trudging through muck and use a light round feeder.better for land too

Reggie.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121444293#Comment_121444293

Would work but area is only about 1.5 acres in size. Only 10 cattle on it

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K.G.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121444379#Comment_121444379

No way could you justify a loader to feed that many bales.why not just lift the feeder so .if it's the standard type they are not heavy.

Who2

Get rid of the cattle,

Reggie.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121444664#Comment_121444664

Yeah it's looking more like the option. Either that or have a half a round feeder with a fence either side and lift the bale into it with a rear spike.

Fence off the corner that the access gate is at. Just have to come up with a different plan.

Reggie.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121444554#Comment_121444554

Tractor won't last 7 years here

Fine Day

Years ago we used to have 20 or 30 weanlings feeding out in a yard. We had no loader at the time. To make life easier we hinged on side of the round feeder. It was very handy. Simply open the feeder and set back to it and tip bale on its end, remove plastic and net and shut feeder and away you go. You would have to be on concrete, not sure if you have that.

Reggie.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121444701#Comment_121444701

No but I could make up a timber floor for the bottom of the feeder to keep the silage off the ground. Hate the silage left over everytime the feeder is moved

Currently using a square feeder I made myself that has a timber floor. Zero waste out of it as the silage never touches the ground and cattle can reach every bit of the bale

DBK1

For 30 bales a year a back loader with a grab for small money will be perfect.

Yea it’s a bit more awkward than a front loader but that’s only going to make a difference of a minute or two on each bale.

To spend €18k on a front loader so it might save you a minute or two 30 times a year would be the height of lunacy!

As long as you’re not planning on travelling miles along the road with the bale on the loader there’ll be no problem.

Reggie.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121444772#Comment_121444772

Field is 200 yards from the house

White Clover

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121444741#Comment_121444741

Reggie, could you alter your square feeder so that one side hinges open? Your 2 spike handler would do then to drop the bale in.

Years ago we had a feeder like patsy describes above except we had it hinging at one end and used a big D shackle to close the feeder after the bale was left in. It worked a dream. We even had a cover on it, each half of the feeder was done separately and closed together then.

Reggie.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121445037#Comment_121445037

Yeah mods could be done over the summer

emaherx

You could always put on a basic front loader and connect to spool valves as was done on machines for decades and eliminate the need for any joystick. I think it would still be better to use than a rear loader.

You can T off the vales and use manual or electronic isolators to isolate the loader if you need the spools while loader is fitted (or just take it off)

Jb1989

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121446032#Comment_121446032

Either that or a cheap wee 2wd drive tractor and loader.

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Fine Day

Seeminely Ireland is in recession, if you could battle on this year You might just buy an older tractor and loader for alot less next year. Also alot of big tax bills to be paid particular for dairy farmers for 2022 year. I think it's time to watch the pennies a keep the head down.

_Brian

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058325278/rear-end-loader

We have one that we use on a wee outfarm. They are handy for sure and plenty about for a few hundred euros.

ours was bought real cheap but it has a grab and all it needed was new pipes.

compared to a front loader it is cumbersome. Three lever chest and lift arms makes for a bit of flaff compared to our loader on the David Brown.

hopeso

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121448050#Comment_121448050

The three lever chest valve would be awful messing on a modern tractor. I'd say there's enough spool valves on the New Holland to do away with the chest valve, and just plug the hoses into the spool couplers on the tractor.

emaherx

The obvious solution 🤣

_Brian

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121449014#Comment_121449014

Yea.

ours isn’t on a modern tractor it fits onto the MF699. It has a “bracket” that allows it hang inside the cab through the open rear window.