Gript-A source of misinformation. **Read OP before posting**

ancapailldorcha

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122083082#Comment_122083082

I posted that and removed it because the poster said RTÉ, as opposed to the media as a whole, had ignored it.

I'm still waiting for this claim to be substantiated.

Beasty

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No discussion of anything before the courts permitted on this site

Quantum Erasure

I hear if you repeat the name Mohamed fifteen times into a mirror, he appears behind you…

francois

NGO, the latest meaningless bogeyman

ancapailldorcha

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122102030#Comment_122102030

What's to discuss? It's Grift cherrypicking an anecdote and pretending it's representative.

corkie

While RTE and Virgin media was left wanting for coverage on the 'Anti-immigration protest' today. Just short blink and you miss it moment on 'Six One' and 'Nine' for RTE. Even 'Musk' took time to reply to a tweet.

There were criticisms of media outlet for the coverage of the crowds – and praise for X, which Elon Musk responded to by tweeting that “The people of Ireland are standing up for themselves”.

I suppose this below article is just more misinformation?

https://gript.ie/watch-largest-protest-opposing-immigration-to-date-packs-city-centre/

Hungry Burger

The fact that the likes of RTÉ and the Indo reported that the protest today was only a few hundred, yet anyone with access to a Twitter or tik tok account can see it was in the thousands just shows the sorry state the mainstream media is in in this country. It’s only “disinformation” when the other side does it!

Gript have gotten things wrong in the past but I like them for at least trying to provide even a semblance of balanced reporting.

All RTÉ, Virgin, Irish Times etc do these days is push the government progressive narrative.

AndrewJRenko

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122102316#Comment_122102316

Largely down to misleading reporting by our old friends in Gript, who report 'overall spend on NGOs' while forgetting to highlight that this includes spend on universities, elder care, disability care services, homeless services, addiction services and more.

jmayo

It is a bit rich for people to be chomping at the bit claiming Gript are a source of mis information when one looks at the headlines on mainstream tv, radio and in print with regards to the protest in Dublin on Monday.

All of the mainstream media claim that only hundreds of people attended the protests and actually imply there were equal numbers of counter protestors.

tom23

Take Jack whites article in the times. Economical with the truth. But it’s ok. It’s the paper of record.

nullzero

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122102036#Comment_122102036

How do you know it's Mohamed if no images are allowed to be shown of him?

AndrewJRenko

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122111365#Comment_122111365

Yes, if you want to provide those services directly by the State, you'll be adding 30-40% to labour costs to bring the staff involved up to standard PS3 rates and pensions.

Be careful what you wish for.

tarvis

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122112590#Comment_122112590

Surely those who care for for the sick, disabled and elderly members of our families deserve to paid properly. They are more deserving of decent employment conditions than many hundreds of our superannuated paper shufflers.

AndrewJRenko

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122112674#Comment_122112674

Who are the 'paper shufflers'? What roles in what organisations are you referring to?

elperello

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122112674#Comment_122112674

Sure, they all deserve decent employment conditions.

Frontline and administrative staff are both essential to supply services.

So all we have to do is collect more tax in order that we can pay them.

I wonder what Gript would think of that ?

ancapailldorcha

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122113271#Comment_122113271

Grift hates that. It exists to buttress current structures of power, not to improve anything for working class people.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122113315#Comment_122113315

I think the blanket dismissal of any significant news outlet is all too common.

One side auto-dismisses The Guardian whilst the other auto-dismisses The Telegraph etc.

We see the same phenomenon with Gript.

My point is this: even if a news outlet has a bias, that bias doesn't invalidate everything they publish.

Birneybau

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122113367#Comment_122113367

The weather report can often be right

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122113367#Comment_122113367

Gript has a history of lying, they are not a trustworthy source. You do not trust anything a liar tells you. That's the price of been caught lying.

Hotblack Desiato

Gript is not a news outlet, that's the category error you're making.

It's a propaganda outlet.

Frostybrew

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122113367#Comment_122113367

News outlet? Sounds more like a dating app for w@nkers.

Goldengirl

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122113423#Comment_122113423

And the time and date is usually unbiased .

ancapailldorcha

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122113462#Comment_122113462

Exactly. Trust is earned. People buy the Irish Times, the Independent and so on because they can expect a minimal level of honesty and a correction when errors occur.

Grift is not a news outlet, it's a disinformation platform funded most likely by malevolent foreign actors. The comparison is not valid.

ToweringPerformance

They must be doing something right if they are upsetting the usual suspects. Might up my subscription tbh. 😋

The Nal

Gript are religious nutters with a conservative Catholic agenda.

They know there arent that many religious people left (certainly none of an age who would pay for a digital sub) so they market to angry thickos with whatever is trending on Twitter.

ancapailldorcha

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122114768#Comment_122114768

I think the Catholic thing just provides a nice set of symbols for them to exploit. It means they can push hate while looking righteous. It exists to buttress power by shutting down discussion of topics like inequality, housing, racism, climate change, etc. Sometimes it does this by pushing the sort of anti-scientific nonsense used by American think tanks. Mostly, it's good old deflection and immigration along with trans people are the best ammunition Grift could ask for.

I'm guessing Grift doesn't make money but I don't know because they don't disclose who owns them or their finances. Ultimately, it's just professional pricks typing on a computer. There's no journalism which also helps keep the costs down. Anyone with a laptop and wifi along with the right opinions can be a Grift writer. There's no other qualifications necessary.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122114808#Comment_122114808

I don't personally use Gript as my primary, secondary or tertiary news source. It exists, and sometimes I come across it peripherally on social media or elsewhere. So I'm not speaking here as some prophet advocate for Gript.ie.

Rather, what I have found is that many people who condemn Gript ab initio have never read an article from the website to begin with. Yet they speak with undying hatred about it. Their ostracism began before they even began publishing. Yet this is from the same people who condemn Gript for not being accurate or fair. At the very least, that's ironic.

Second to that, I have no doubt that sometimes Gript have, at times, published inaccurate stories and issued retractions; the same as any other news outlet. I mean, if the Irish Times or any other experienced news organization sometimes get it wrong, then surely it's not beyond possibility that a start-up outlet is more likely to experience the same thing?

Is that a reason to wholly dismiss absolutely everything they publish, or the arc of bias they happen to promote? It's unsound.

For what it's worth, here is the current homepage stories on the Gript.ie:

This is extreme hatred?

If anything, it's very banal.

I think the hysteria around Gript.ie is fomented from an online echo-chamber who want to hate the outlet for the crime of just existing.

If you are going to argue that Gript.ie is foreign funded by malevolent actors, you would need to provide a citation to back up that so far unsubstantiated claim. Remember again, that you criticised Gript.ie for being inaccurate and not sourcing their stories properly, so it would be the absolute summit of irony if your claims are held to that very same standard.

Augme

Did Grift have an article on this?

https://www.rte.ie/news/2024/0508/1447870-hate-crime/

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122116069#Comment_122116069

I think you're missing the point.

Nobody expects Gript to report the same content as RTE or the Irish Times.

If that were the case, why would they have a reason to exist?

The purpose of Gript, from my understanding of it, is to precisely report on those stories and angles that would not be expected to be parroted on RTE or the Irish Times.

There are many people in this country who feel that their views on specific concerns go ignored. If we are to claim to live in an open and democratic country, we cannot dismiss those concerns or shout those concerns down. In the end, that's what contributes to the rise of violence and extremism. Nobody should want either.

And I say that as someone who doesn't agree with everything published on Gript, in the same way that I don't agree with everything published on RTE or the Irish Times. I read all the stories and evidence, and I make my own mind up — matter by matter.

That's what it means to think critically.

Augme

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122116125#Comment_122116125

RTE and the Irish Times have also covered the removal of tents and the Trinity agree8ng to the protesters demand so they clearly do report the same same content as them. So have they in this case? I assume not. But I mean, they could put their own spin on it. Like on foreigners are to blame for being racial abused because if they weren't here they couldn't be racially abused. Maybe they could argue that Irish black people are at fault for being racial abused as well. if they stayed at home and never left their house they wouldn't be racially abused.

Same for sexual orientation, if people just pretended to be straight then they would get abuse for being gay. This seems the kinda of alternative slant I'd expect to see from them.