Gript-A source of misinformation. **Read OP before posting**

gym_imposter

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121882571#Comment_121882571

Thanks, have done for over three years now

Strazdas

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121882681#Comment_121882681

Problem with Gript is that it is not just "anti government", but that it would like to install its own version of a government (preferably a very right wing one). That means it's not really a credible news outlet - more along the lines of GB News and passing off its own opinions as 'news' and 'facts'.

crusd

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121882556#Comment_121882556

More soundbites than you could shake a stick at

griffin100

Did I hear Ben Scallan on Newstalk Breakfast yesterday? There was a representative of Gript on talking about the referendum results, just missed his name. Honestly never thought Newstalk would invite on an Irish right leaning contributor. Will be interesting to see if Gript is featured more as we move towards a general election (I doubt it will).

Hamsterchops

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121882583#Comment_121882583

Talking of ideologically motivated, the first Gript video I saw on YouTube was Mary Lou, followed by Simon Harris, followed by Kier Starmer, all ideologically locked into (and paying lipservice to) the ideology of the day wink-wink, yet Gript have shone a spotlight on its cult like presence in the Dail like nobody else here in this State. In the UK GB News & Talk TV are likewise doing a great job in fighting against "the ideology" cus ever other media outlet seems to be "captured" with presenters afraid of the repercussions should they dare to believe their eyes by using a pronoun that may not correspond with the wishes of the ideologically motivated.

Full credit to Gript for tearing up the script.

Strazdas

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121882835#Comment_121882835

GB News openly support the Tory government, hate Labour, the Lib Dems and the SNP and are head over heels in love with Boris Johnson, Suella Braverman, Liz Truss and Kemi Badenoch. That's a hundred times worse than anything the Irish media have been accused of.

Hamsterchops

Well in light if what I was talking about, I'd give big kudos to LizTruss, Kemi Badenoch & Suella Braverman specifically for being at the coalface, and standing up to the ideology that Mary Lou and Co fully embrace! That Gript video from the Dail is something you'd never see elsewhere on Irish media.

eightieschewbaccy

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121882728#Comment_121882728

They're clearly not doing a great job if you're under the impression that Ireland ceased to be a democracy. 😂

smallbeef

Yeah Gript is right-wing and doesn't hide it. When did it become a crime to have right-wing views in this country? Remember we are NOT talking about the 'far-right' whoever they are. We are just people who don't think its prudent to invite the whole world to claim asylum in Ireland when we don't have houses/services/healthcare/water/electricity/education. We are people who don't think its right to give kids puberty-blockers instead of psychiatric support. We are people who think our constitution shouldn't be padded with fluffy include-everyone language as that clearly makes it open to abuse. We think our green-energy save the world plan is totally non-viable and has resulted in Ireland having the highest (by some distance) household electricity price in the world! These views would have been centre 10 years ago, but now are deemed far-right. Seems anything against the status-quo is far-right.

The left has become a cult and similar to the church in the 50's, it has infected every part of our society. All government parties, all mainstream media. Quite the achievement. Don't you think its good to call out the far-left every now and again when they are spreading misinformation? I haven't seen MSM do it.

I get most of my news from MSM but also look at Gript. I understand the biases of both and make my own mind up, which is somewhere in the middle.

I'm an atheist. I was pro-abortion, pro-gay marriage and I haven't changed my views. But suddenly I'm far-right for not fully endorsing the likes of this:

https://gript.ie/politicians-women-can-quite-clearly-have-penises-so-a-woman-can-have-a-penis/

How far-left do I have to go not to be called far-right?

H_Lime

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121882960#Comment_121882960

Off to the gulag with you for re-education!

Centrists are not allowed, you're required to be polarised, pigeonholed and happy about it lest you be attacked by both far wings.

Himself at the helm is a nobend but the questions gript are asking aren't forthcoming by our "media" so I'm subscribed.

There needs to be big changes in how this country goes about its business and step one is opposition to some sloppy, lazy and dishonest news media. Rock on Ben!

Strazdas

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121883043#Comment_121883043

But media outlets are not supposed to have their own political ideology and their own favourites. Gript implying that they hate every party in the Dáil doesn't make them "neutral" - it's the total opposite of neutrality in fact. It means they are partisan and biased and not operating like any normal media outlet anywhere.

Shoog

It's fantastical to suggest that Grip is in anyway centrist. It ideologically far to the right and actively campaigning for the sort of right wing governments we have seen in the UK and USA.

smallbeef

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121883107#Comment_121883107

I wouldn't consider them centrist either. But they are an alternative to the MSM who consistently have left this government off the hook. I'm not sure if their ideology is right-wing or just anti-government. Either way, its a gap in the market for them.

No-one should believe everything they hear from a particular media source in modern times. The truth is harder found nowadays and is usually in the middle of 2 polar opposite views.

eightieschewbaccy

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121883174#Comment_121883174

The things is, by off the hook, you simply mean that the vast majority of journos simply aren't airing your viewpoint. Instead you're trusting in a guy who used a fake nurse to try and sway a referendum. An outlet that are perfectly happy to endanger members of the public because of their inability to perform basic research.

gym_imposter

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121883085#Comment_121883085

Are you suggesting that the likes of RTE have no political ideology ?

Geuze

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121883085#Comment_121883085

The IT is champagne socialism / Lab party / SocDems

The IT uses the term "the new Irish" to describe Africans, with articles that welcome illegal immigrants, and never question how they got here.

The first thing a reporter should ask an AS is: how did you get here? Where were you the day before you arrived in Ireland?

Instead, the IT fawn over them.

Although, to be fair to them, doesn't Breda O'Brien have a column in the IT? And to be fair, they did report on the widespread destruction of travel documents by illegal immigrants

H_Lime

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121883203#Comment_121883203

I was going to write a big reply to the above well meaning idealists but this sums it up in a sentence lol.

Geuze

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121883085#Comment_121883085

RTE is not balanced.

My friend is an employee.

When we discuss things, he agrees with me, but says "we can't say that".

i.e. he can't report the truth.

It takes them a long time to catch up with the truth.

Geuze

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121883107#Comment_121883107

Clearly, they are not centre-left, no.

I would call them centre-right.

A welcome balance to the centre-left of IT and RTE.

smallbeef

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121883201#Comment_121883201

'The things is, by off the hook, you simply mean that the vast majority of journos simply aren't airing your viewpoint.'

Apparently its the viewpoint of a lot of the country. The referendum showed how out of touch the government and MSM have become.

In daily life we see our old issues (an some new ones) getting worse and little being done about them. I'll list a few of these issues:

• Record numbers on hospital trolleys.
• 13.5k+ homeless citizens in emergency accommodation.
• 1000's of refugee's in tents on our streets.
• Record low morale in our Garda Síochána
• Highest electricity charges in the world.
• Most expensive children's hospital in the world, will it ever actually be staffed??
• Tourist /hospitality sector decimated by using hotels for IPA's and also not reducing VAT rate.
• Cost of living still rising.

The Ukraine war is no longer on-trend so its Gaza is taking most of the airtime. Its terrible for sure but we can do nothing about it, we need to focus on our own issues and MSM should be hammering these issues home and getting them improved. But instead MSM are diverting the public's attention from what a mess our government are making.

Strazdas

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121883270#Comment_121883270

Gript are way more partisan and biased in a certain direction than any other media outlet in Ireland. You can't be that partisan and biased and at the same time claim to be the only trustworthy and reliable news source in Ireland. Their senior political reporter was a candidate for the Irish Freedom Party at the last general election.

jmayo

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121882727#Comment_121882727

The Irish Times ?

I think they are a joke at this stage.

Although I was very surprised they actually printed a very common sense non Irish Times journalist type of letter yesterday.

eightieschewbaccy

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121883343#Comment_121883343

Plenty of left wing or centrist people voted no and not for the reasons outlined by Gript.(The same people who voted yes on abortion and same sex marriage) All of the issues cited above are frequently discussed in the Irish press.

By your own logic, we should expect a few far right candidates elected in the European elections. I don't view that as particularly likely. Equally I don't see the likes of the farmers alliance, Renua or Aontu getting on particularly well in next year's general election. But by your own logic, we should see some substantial growth.

On top of that, Gript have shown them to be untrustworthy as a news outlet.

jmayo

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121883201#Comment_121883201

Well I would bet a bigger majority in this country shares smallbeef's views than either yours or the vast majority of journalists in our MSM.

You appear yet another one that appears not to realise that a huge chunk of Irish people do not agree with our government, political parties, media and NGOs that control the narrative in this country.

Of course the term populist is now given to anyone that actually agrees with or appeals to the ordinary people.

Populist now has the associated connotations that is something awful to agree with and appeal to the beliefs of ordinary people, just because they don't agree with ingrained political types, media, NGOs, modern intellectuals types usually making a living from non scientific non factual codology.

Boggles

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121883673#Comment_121883673

The silent majority?

Dick phelan

All news outlets are bias to a certain viewpoint. It only gets raised as an issue when that view is on the right. Read some of the unbelievable bias from the likes of the Journal or The Independent. I'd actually prefer if media was honest about their views instead of pretending to be impartial.

eightieschewbaccy

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121883673#Comment_121883673

So we should expect a load of right wing politicians to be elected.... That's the logical conclusion. If it doesn't, it's a very very silent majority.

Strazdas

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121883538#Comment_121883538

It's a bit of cliché by Gript and their supporters to claim that the IT and RTE and all the others are in the pocket of the government. It's an easy accusation to throw around (and very Trumpian) but there's little evidence to back it up. The likes of SF, PBP and the independents have full access to the media and are seen and heard on TV and radio all the time. It's not as if FF/FG/Greens are the only ones invited on.

elperello

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121883538#Comment_121883538

Yes The Irish Times.

A proper newspaper with real journalists.

I've been reading it for years, not always agreeing with everything they print but on balance it's served me well.

The paper is owned by a trust and the board are all known, audited accounts annually etc.

The kind of transparency Gript subscribers like yourself can only dream of.

Augme

Gript are basically an NGO. Their role is to push an agenda.