Shocking Comments by Limerick councillor - comments with potential to insight violence / murder

Strumms

I’m reading this in sort of a jaw on ground level of disbelief, i really am….

https://www.limerickpost.ie/2023/11/29/id-like-to-see-them-shot-in-the-head-councillors-hard-line-on-dublin-riots/

so in the Republic of Ireland, a democracy (ahem) we now have a councillor, advocating the murder of our citizens. Whether you agree with what happened, whether you are disgusted or appalled by it Mr. Talukder….this is actually a democracy that doesn’t value murder as a way of solving issues. It solved nothing in the 60’s, 70’s, 80’s or 90’s

he is reported to be on record as saying.. “I’d like to see them shot in the head or bring the public in and beat them until they die,”

Human Rights Watch have called the country he hails from, Bangladesh, as being violent and autocratic….. however Ireland is for the most part, peaceful and democratic…. And the riots / protest were not comparable or representative…

considering when the comment was made, how public it is / was…. Any reports of the Gardai knocking on his door for a word ? I’m actually floored that I can be living in an age where is this country, a person elected to public office would come out with such disorderly, evil and undemocratic statements …. Yet…. It’s awful quiet….. 🙄

bcklschaps

Limerick City and County Council (LCCC). At least get the city right.

Strumms

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121435998#Comment_121435998

Typo my friend, anything to add on the comments he made, or just my typo ? :)

Big Gerry

So he's wants the Gardai to be like Judge Dredd and to execute people on the spot without any due process.

Jequ0n

“okay, I can withdraw that. I just put my emotion only. I hope Conor Sheehan understand’s that is only an expression of my emotion.”

Sounds like the average boards poster every time a violent crime happens because they can’t keep their emotions in check. Always a good trait to have in a job like his.

Francie Barrett

Would this violate the coming hate speech laws?

greenspurs

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121435998#Comment_121435998

Thats all that bothers you ?????

🙄

francois

I don't agree but he's voicing what a lot of people are thinking, and entitled to his opinion.

eightieschewbaccy

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121436102#Comment_121436102

I don't agree with what he said, absolutely moronic and wrong. I've also seen plenty of posters express views that are equally as vile, born and bred in Ireland.

This is was hate speech legislation is designed to combat, he should be in jail.

greenspurs

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121436116#Comment_121436116

Embarrassing ......

But yet McGregor is being bombarded , and shur isnt he 'voicing what a lot of people are thinking' ...

Ireland is really dying , a death by a thousand cuts, and its being done by Irish people...

XsApollo

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121436195#Comment_121436195

It’s being done the government.

francois

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121436167#Comment_121436167

Ooh scary quotes. Put the strawman away. Yes they are and yes it is right to call it out as wrong.

Boggles

Sounds like he posts on here.

Paterson Jerins

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121436203#Comment_121436203

So he should be banned then?

If a poster said id like to see a councillor shot in the head, would they get banned?

Hamachi

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121436202#Comment_121436202

Your commitment to free speech is admirable ‘Francois’. I look forward to seeing you advocate for this position in future threads.

Boggles

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121436230#Comment_121436230

I have no idea. I'm not a mod.

But he didn't say he would like to see a councillor shot in the head, did he?

There was plenty of choice comments about what should happen to the rioters / looters on here though, again I have no idea if they were sanctioned or not.

tikka16751

There will be lessons learned and he will be minister of justice next year.

Augme

It wasn't for the colour of his skin, I'd say this lad would be a very popular addition to a new Conor McGregor party.

Annasopra

What he said was disgraceful

Ironic enough to see some of the reaction here given opposition Criminal Justice (Incitement to Violence or Hatred and Hate Offences) Bill 2022 and given that there have been calls to murder the President, the Taoiseach, all immigrants, all politicians in Ireland in recent times.

crusd

A couple of points:

• Is anyone surprised a councillor said something stupid.
• We tend as a people not to elect the best and brightest and is seems we are now tending not to elect the best and brightest immigrants also
• Isn't it great to see such a sign of integration where an immigrant who was elected as a councillor is now as likely to say something monumentally stupid as much as the typical native Irish gombeen councillor

Economics101

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121435998#Comment_121435998

Marvellous thread title too: "Insight violence". 😁

PokeHerKing

He wants public punishment brought in🤣

You actually couldn't make this up. I can't get over how quickly we're going down the toilet. It's like the damn has just burst since the pandemic.

Jack Daw

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121436116#Comment_121436116

That fair enough but I wonder what the reaction would be if some immigrants were involved in the riots and he was white.

I think we all know what the reaction would be.

Surely it's racist not to hold this guy to the same standards?

Annasopra

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121436335#Comment_121436335

Thank you for your incite

PokeHerKing

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121436345#Comment_121436345

POC can't be racist bro.

Ash.J.Williams

What next. Sharia law 😂

Jack Daw

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121436291#Comment_121436291

He doesn't need to be arrested, I just needs to be pointed out how stupid he was for saying what he said.

Also have their really been calls to murder the Taoiseach, President, all immigrants and all politicians in county or city council chambers in recent years?

I think if that had happened we'd have heard something about it.

Someone saying something in a city council meeting is a bit different that some idiot on the internet saying it.

Sure didn’t we have a member of the Seanad who said the rioters all needed a “Good, honest, decent, beating”.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121436357#Comment_121436357

No Hate speech legislation is all we need.

Paterson Jerins

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121436291#Comment_121436291

So it's okay for a Councillor to say shot people because other clowns have said it before?

You say disgraceful. But perhaps he should not be a councillor anymore?

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121436372#Comment_121436372

I think a spell in jail for hate speech would address that.

Peter Flynt

Will Martin remove him from FF? Will he f**k?

Would Martin remove him from FF if he were Irish?. . . . To ask the question is to know the answer.

This country is heading down the wrong direction.

PokeHerKing

I wish our elected officials took as much interest in other insane scenes as they did the riots.

Finglas village brought to a standstill for a funeral yesterday with lads on scramblers. Not a peep from the establishment as there's no D&I points on offer.

I do think it's ironic that the one thing that would address this type of comment is not been advocated for by those who are expressing outrage at the comment.

I wonder if you drew a ven-diagram of those who are expressing outrage and those who indulge in hate speech - how much crossover you would find.

Did they ask him what should be done with the lad who attacked people & started it all off?

batman_oh

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121436415#Comment_121436415

As per usual they won't say anything about certain groups unless they can somehow say they are far right. Then it's fair game.

eightieschewbaccy

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121436388#Comment_121436388

Hate speech against rioters? That's not a thing... He's an idiot, there are many politicians who are idiots.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121436452#Comment_121436452

Provoking violence against any group (even rioters) is by definition hate speech.

Hate speech legislation is not discriminatory - it is focused on the intent to cause violence and harm.

Augme

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121436458#Comment_121436458

It isn't hate speech within the confined of the current Act.

eightieschewbaccy

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121436458#Comment_121436458

Sure it is!

WrenBoy

Unluckily this man has characteristics that make him immune to laws that would be used against the rest of us.

dalyboy

if I’m not wrong (I don’t think I am) but is it true that the councillors / TD’s / senators / journalists / media that are proposing , agreeing and voting for this new legislation on speech all have something called “privilege” ? Makes them immune from the effects of the same legislation.

The more I hear about this it is becoming more like a hunger games novel than anything to do with protecting minorities tbh.

crusd

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121436546#Comment_121436546

Privilege only covers what is said in the dail and is subject to rules whereby by it must be fair and accurate

Ezeoul

He must have taken a day off on the day of the media skills training. 🙄

Furze99

Clash of cultures, oil & water.

crusd

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121436666#Comment_121436666

How anyone could believe councillors here get any media skills training is beyond me giving the sh*te they consistently spew

Ezeoul

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121436689#Comment_121436689

Well, the training is made available to them. Carr Communications is usually the provider in Dublin. Don't know about Limerick.

Whether they take it up or not is a different story.

greenspurs

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121436357#Comment_121436357

dont joke about it !!

crusd

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121436751#Comment_121436751

Well if its Carr communicaitons that explains a lot

scottser

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121436201#Comment_121436201

it's your fault. and mine. and everyone's.

do you challenge racism or sexism when it comes your way? do you engage with young people when they display intolerant attitudes and behaviours? what about your own family, do you call out family members if they advocate violent solutions to anything?

blaming everything on the government means you let the government make your choices for you. if you want to live in a decent society you have to play your part in making it decent. it's not rocket science.