Porsche Taycan

Gumbo

Guys, considering the severe nosedive these have taken in the UK, has anyone looked into it properly on getting one here.

They can be got for less than £50k now.

Even accounting for the vat, customs duty and small vrt, are we still looking at 80-90k landed?

User1998

How much is VRT? At £50k it would cost about €78.5k plus VRT.

Prices start at €75k here. I’d imagine when they start being sold by private sellers they will be under €70k.

Gumbo

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121433874#Comment_121433874

Maybe not much in it then?

https://www.donedeal.ie/view/35501303

Porsche Taycan 4S 93 KWH Performance Plus

joe1303l

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121434272#Comment_121434272

Most UK ones will have less miles and possibly more spec than that one in Cork. Options list on these is serious and some examples have had lots of boxes ticked compared to other more spartan examples. Morgan Cars in N.I often have a few nice ones with decent spec but they’re never cheap. Audi e-Tron GT is the same car under the skin and are a bit more plentiful here.

Gumbo

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121434569#Comment_121434569

That would be my angle on it too.

Insee a few eTrons weekly and nice yes, but I wouldn’t…..

Buddy Bubs

Haven't looked into it properly but increasingly thinking I'll get one or an Etron GT.

I've decent funds from a private sale of our 530e last week to put towards it and we are just sharing a car for the minute. Was looking at BYD Seal, BMW i4 to go alongside our Cupra Born as a 2 EV household and instead of buying new I'd consider staying in 2021/22 and getting one of these instead when they come into price range.

Still a bit out of price range but if I can hold off on buying something in the meantime it's very possible. It won't be long happening. Thing is, I think I'd keep one of these much longer term than anything else. Like what else would I move into after it.....so it's a sensible purchase isn't it!

They're the only 2 WOW factor EVs out there. loads of ICE cars I'd love to own but these are the only 2 EVs

However, I think the Audi Gt will win out as the Porsche badge is a little flashy for me.

Rows Grower

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121434659#Comment_121434659

Porsche hasn't been a flashy badge for a long, long time to be fair.

Buddy Bubs

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121434726#Comment_121434726

It certainly is

User1998

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121434569#Comment_121434569

Most of the UK ones around the £50k mark are either low spec or high mileage.

User1998

I’d say if you were to buy one now you’d probably loose €10k in depreciation over the next 6 months but if your buying a relatively new and expensive Porsche I’d imagine that’s fairly standard.

Rows Grower

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121434790#Comment_121434790

They appeal to a male generation that want one big blow out before they will be qualified for the free travel pass.

listermint

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121434726#Comment_121434726

Huh.....

User1998

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121435056#Comment_121435056

Some of their SUV’s are questionable. Diesel, rebadged Volkswagen’s

And the Panamera

eagerv

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121434814#Comment_121434814

😁lol

digiman

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121433874#Comment_121433874

In this calculation you are multiplying by 1.23 (VAT) and 1.1 (Duty) and 1.16 (Sterling to Euro)?

If you buy a car originally registered in NI, don't you avoid the VAT and duty?

Gumbo

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121435173#Comment_121435173

Yes, vat and duty exempt once registered originally in NI so a much better option.

Rows Grower

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121435126#Comment_121435126

SUV Hybrid technology purchased from Lexus after Porsche engineers with a blank cheque and loads of time could not dream up a way to improve it.

Reversing cameras were an expensive extra option long after most taxi drivers in Ireland had them.

They are a busted flush when it comes to luxury cars never mind being considered too flash because of the badge.

Allinall

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121434726#Comment_121434726

Curious as to what you would consider a flashy badge?

Rows Grower

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121435248#Comment_121435248

In comparison to a Porsche there's a long list that you don't have to be super rich to afford which would include Bentley, Range Rover, Mercedes, Lexus, Audi and BMW.

listermint

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121435412#Comment_121435412

Audi and BMW flashy badges. Intriguing

ELM327

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121435430#Comment_121435430

So despite the audi GT etron being a cheaper version of the taycan, audi are supposedly a more flashy badge than porsche!

Also Bentley ? What bentley can you buy for sub 100k new or nearly new

joe1303l

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121435173#Comment_121435173

You’ll do well to find a Taycan for sale that was originally registered in N.I. Until recently public charging up there was a no go zone and a lot of high end cars in the North would have been imported originally.

User1998

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121435173#Comment_121435173

I just use Google for the currency exchange. Duty comes first and then VAT.

joe1303l

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121435236#Comment_121435236

For a busted flush, they seem to be doing pretty well but maybe you’ve had a bad experience with a few of them ??

https://newsroom.porsche.com/en/2023/company/porsche-robust-growth-first-nine-months-2023-34164.html

joe1303l

This Taycan is advertised as VAT qualifying but is a UK registered vehicle. Is this any advantage to someone importing into the South ? £28K worth of options on it, ouch.

https://www.usedcarsni.com/2020-Porsche-Taycan-420kW-4S-93kWh-4dr-Auto-332943148

Gumbo

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121435600#Comment_121435600

No, is the short answer.

but that dealer has stunning stock. My old Model S P90D Ludicrous came from them.

Buddy Bubs

The price of some of those options are stupid. Half of them come on a very standard 40k EV. It's a beautiful car though.

MojoMaker

Would take a model S over a Taycan any day. Don't think Porsche quite got it right with this model.

blackbox

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121434814#Comment_121434814

A 911 or a Cayman sports car maybe, but a 4-door 4 seater Taycan saloon would hardly be considered to be a blow out.

Theboinkmaster

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121436815#Comment_121436815

You’d take a Tesla over a Porsche?! Have you sat in both? Tesla are cheap plastic nasty yokes.

Gumbo

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121439898#Comment_121439898

Most new cars are plastic using recycled materials nowadays, Porsche EV’s are no different

The poster stated they would take a Model S over a Taycan, 2 very specific models. In some cases, so would I.

celtic_oz

Have a 2023 Tesla Model Y LR, 20K kilometers and tow bar. Black and like new

Will swop for Taycan any model. PM me.

*holds breath*

Gumbo

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121441096#Comment_121441096

😂

PM to arrange collection…

Casati

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121435502#Comment_121435502

If anybody is serious about buying, then your option is a VAT qualifying in the U.K.and one that is less than 3 years old. Before I hear cries saying Vat registered only applies to Irish motor dealers, it doesn't - I bought a 6 month old Volvo dealer ex VAT for export from a main dealer. I gave them my PPS number instead of VAT number. Once the car is being exported, they have to sell it ex vat or else they are breaking HM revenue own rules. Some dealers will only sell on the basis you prove its being exported and get it collected on a truck or some hold the VAT back until you have it register in Ireland- thus proving its exported. If its less than 3 years old you can avoid the duty also- you need to get the services of a customs clerk to process it as temporary EU export - Im assuming the Tacan is made in EU?

The maths would work something like this - lets us this 2021 for example

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202310022591827?sort=price-asc&advertising-location=at_cars&make=Porsche&model=Taycan&postcode=n87ex&year-from=2021&fromsra

Retail = £60164 - ex vat that's = £50136 or 58224 eur. Add Irish Vat 23% = 71615. Add VRT which is probably 6k and its 77k - or similar money to that one in the Dublin dealer

joe1303l

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121441372#Comment_121441372

Is there a customs clerk you would recommend or have used successfully in the past ? If you were to buy from a Porsche main dealer in the UK, would their warranty be valid with the Porsche dealer in Dublin. Thanks

User1998

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121441372#Comment_121441372

If the car is VAT qualifying it doesn’t matter how old it is. The 3 year rule is for customs duty only and is from the date of manufacture not the date of first registration.

Its also quite difficult to find a dealer who will actually sell you the car ex VAT.

v10

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121441372#Comment_121441372

Isn't there customs duty to be paid also ?

Woodie40

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121439898#Comment_121439898

Completed right.

666bxg

Thinking of getting one used - will insurance premium hikes on EVs hit us in Ireland as had been reported in the Uk too?

Gumbo

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121459370#Comment_121459370

Nobody can really answer that to be honest. You’d need a graph of people’s insurance over the years to see a trend.

I paid less than €400 last year on a 500bhp EV so it will be interesting to see how it goes this year.

UK insurance went weird. I don’t particularly understand why?

joe1303l

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121459370#Comment_121459370

Get a quote using a reg of a similar Taycan to what you intend buying, it’ll give you a fair idea.

666bxg

it will cost an extra €86 for the remaining 10 month of my policy to insure a Taycan Turbo over my 4 series with 123.

huge hikes in the UK driven by higher repair costs of EVs and most have to be written off due to minor prangs that involve the battery etc

joe1303l

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121460348#Comment_121460348

I’d be happy with that.

Casati

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121460348#Comment_121460348

Its likely that insurance cost here for EV's will increase for the reasons above too- one example a panel beater in a large bodyshop gave me, is that they will not put an ev into an oven due to fire risk, and as such the drying time is much longer. They also said they are not permitted to do any welding on ev's unless the battery has been removed. Two simple examples of why the repair cost is higher

Gumbo

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121462049#Comment_121462049

I know some small garages that their jacking equipment is not rated for the weight of EV’s too. Simple alignment becomes hassle!

The bigger guys are better equipped though.

ARJn

There are 610+ Tycan for sale in UK and increasing every day, what do the owners know that we don't

I heard its the battery replacement cost of over 40k (not sure if true)

But anyways there are 37 for sale under 60k Sterling many of which are Performance and 4s versions some under 20k miles ,I can't imagine why not to buy them,

Btw for records I hate Irish VAT and customs [Rant over]

Theboinkmaster

I'd have a Panamera hybrid myself.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121486223#Comment_121486223

I suspect a lot of those availed of BIK (2%) and were traded in before the end of the tax year, also, delays in delivery last/early this year probably means a lot more buyers are getting their new cars in the second half of this year, but someone far more knowledgeable of the EV UK market may give a more intuitive answer.

joe1303l

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121486223#Comment_121486223

Unlikely it’s anything to do with the battery as it has an 8 year/100K mile warranty. It does seem remarkable why so many of them are on the used market. On the pricing, maybe such a level of depreciation is pretty normal for such a high end motor.

I reckon it's just market being flooded with lease returns in UK. They did have very generous tax breaks.

joe1303l

Price reduced on this one. Only a 4 seater, smaller battery and a bit skimpy in terms of spec.

https://www.donedeal.ie/view/35799952

Porsche Taycan 79kwh 300KW