"the Irish far-right loathe Ireland more than anyone else", Joe Brolly has said

Francis McM

Saw / heard this headline on newstalk.

Quote “No one hates Ireland more than the Irish far-right,” he told The Hard Shoulder. 

“They hate bus drivers, librarians, Luas drivers, teachers, women, gays, trans - they loathe trans people - politicians, they can’t stand politicians,” he said.  “They hate working people, Muslims, Jews"

https://www.newstalk.com/news/irish-far-right-hate-ireland-more-than-anyone-joe-brolly-1618628

Does he realise that some of the rioters were heard chanting "uh Ah up the RA" and referring to the Gardai as black and tans etc ?

The rioting occured in Mary Lou's own constituency. I think the rioters and looters and people who stole from the shops should be condemned, not the Gardai. The Gardai or its commissioner should not be complained about in my opinion, they did a fine job under difficult circumstances.

If someone refers to SF/IRA supporters as far right - or at least those who riot and chant uh ah up the RA - I suppose that is food for thought.

Strazdas

A complicating factor is that security analysts reckon that while the initial protest for 7pm was planned by the far right, many other opportunist thugs and hooligans and street criminals got wind of what was happening via social media and came along just for the aggro and to cause mayhem.

It may well have ended up with a scenario where one third of the rioters were genuinely far right and the other two thirds were just general louts and yobs with no particular interest in far right politics or the immigration question.

WrenBoy

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121427629#Comment_121427629

What fraction were made up of people who were horrified at the earlier events and wished to voice their anger with the current system ? Or are far right and yobs the only options ?

TomTomTim

Ah yes, those who want to change nearly everything about our nation are the ones who love it. Those who want to preserve what we have/had are the ones who hate Ireland. This is gaslighting of the worst kind.

ednwireland

joe brolly - enough said

Shoog

The far right want Ireland to be a certain way, a way that its has never been in its history, so yes they hate Ireland as it is and as it is evolving into.

Some people simply cannot stand the fact that most irish people are accomodating to difference. This is why even though concern about immigration is growing, the far right are not the natural beneficiaries of that concern and they still languish in single figure polling numbers.

People simple are repelled by the core of hate at the heart of right wing politics.

Strazdas

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121427648#Comment_121427648

Ironically, I suspect many of the far right protesters didn't intend there to be violence at the 7pm event, but their protest was effectively hijacked by the numerous gurriers who came along and who immediately started lobbing missiles at the Gardai.

But it's example perhaps of how constantly whipping things up on social media can have unintended consequences.

downthemiddle

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121427649#Comment_121427649

By preserve what we had what exactly do you mean?

Francis McM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121427692#Comment_121427692

True, but interesting to hear him condemn ( as I understand it ) the SF / IRA supporters who were rioting - they were if they chanted "uh ah up the RA" - as the far right.

Wonder how the far right will do in the next election?

SharkMX

There was one thing in common with all those people rioting or protesting or whatever they felt they themselves were doing.

That would have been the one brain cell they share between the lot of them.

Far right and rioters generally are thick individuals.

Ash.J.Williams

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058324798/the-irish-far-right-loathe-ireland-more-than-anyone-else-joe-brolly-has-said

You're getting a little confused there

Francis McM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121427803#Comment_121427803

Then why were they chanting Uh Ah Up the RA? I would suspect out of all the parties, SF is the most likely one for those who chant "Up the RA" to vote for?

Tombo2001

I would have more in common with a teacher in Istanbul or Toronto than I would with some scobe on a scooter in his nike tech fleece shouting 'up the ra'. They make people ashamed to be Irish.

Francis McM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121427846#Comment_121427846

So what party do you think those who chant "uh Ah up the RA" and shout "black 'n tans" at the Gardai are most likely to vote for?

Whose constituency did the riot / looting take part in again?

bucketybuck

The scumbag rioters have more integrity than Joe Brolly, there has never been a single honest word from that POS.

bucketybuck

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121427832#Comment_121427832

Are you taking the piss?

A group of dumb irish lads shouting "up the ra", sure thats never ever happened before...

Next you'll be saying the "Ole ole ole" song is a far right anthem.

EmmetSpiceland

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121427832#Comment_121427832

SF have, unwittingly, acted as a bulwark by bringing along a far right element under a left banner. It seems that a cohort of their vote hear “Ireland for the Irish” when SF talk of a united Ireland.

The biggest worry I, personally, would have now is not what will happen if SF get into government but what happens in the election after they’ve been in government, when that “voter base” comes to realise that SF are a pro-immigration party on the left.

Beta Ray Bill

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121427856#Comment_121427856

I think it's very unlikely the people shouting that actually vote and even if they did it's marginal. In fact most of "them" believe Sinn Fein to be a sell out.

Those looting and rioting have no political ideals... they're just a bunch of Scummers, that hate the Brits, (and indeed most people that aren't white and Irish)

Like depending on who you ask, there is no serious contender RW political party in Ireland. (nor is there a LW party, again depending on who you ask), and that in a nutshell is the problem with *wing politics

lmao10

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121427677#Comment_121427677

Good post. They do hate Ireland, no question about that. The lads who were rioting were just inner city lads, most of whom wouldn't have a clue about immigration politics but they will take their chance to give the police some abuse and riot and loot if they can get away with it. It's been said before even at these far right type things in Finglas "these young lads haven't got a clue about any of this, I had to tell them who klaus schwab was etc" from one of those lunatic far right types which are so prevalent on here. Ultimately the far right lads do hate Ireland as it is and as it will be and it's quite enjoyable to know that they will live their lives in perpetual angst lol

Potatoeman

Ah the far right bogeyman, responsible for everything, every poorly thought out government policy and mishandled situation. It wouldn’t be government incompetence? Is it the far right that underfunded the Gardai? Is it the far right stabbing babies in their prams? Is it the far right not paying their TV licenses too? What else can they be blamed for?

lmao10

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121427910#Comment_121427910

Being racist scum would be a good start.

Fred Cryton

Joe Brolly - how can one man be completely wrong about absolutely every issue. Flipping a coin would give you better chance of getting it right than Joe Brolly.

It's not anti immigration sentiment, it's anti bogus asylum seekers and people living off the State 10 or 20 years without getting a job. It's anti - Jihadi ideology as well. Face it, we don't want to import people possessed by Jihadi ideology into Ireland. We just don't, so accept it or move aside.

We have a serious problem here, and it's a clear tactic to try to slur that with the catch all "anti-immigration" or "Far-right" nonsense, as if anyone at all has a problem with a foreign doctor or nurse coming into the country.

Strazdas

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121427910#Comment_121427910

Everyone in the country has issues with the government on the things you mention. What marks the far right crowd out is that they want ultra simplistic (usually authoritarian or draconian) solutions to everything, as if a society can be run on three word slogans.

Fred Cryton

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121427991#Comment_121427991

A society can be run based on tough borders with strict entry criteria. Australia comes to mind. Good look claiming asylum there.

Potatoeman

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121427967#Comment_121427967

That’s the game, try and lump in skilled migrants that pay their own way with refugees that have highly questionable stories and then bring in a blanket amnesty a few years later even for those with criminal records. More onto the housing list and into the welfare state. What could go wrong?

crusd

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121427803#Comment_121427803

There is a element who look at SF with their avowed nationalism and Irish flag politics as being an "Irish for the Irish" Party. A not insignificant element either. These are generally the one brained cell, someone else is to blame for everything brigade. That someone else now being immigrants. The brain cell is too busy engaged in hate however to realise Sinn Fein do not stand for the hate they profess.

An emergence of a> 10% anti immigrant party would probably impact the Sinn Fein vote more than any of the other party's even though there would be minimal overlap in platforms.

Strazdas

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121427998#Comment_121427998

30% of the Australian population (7.5m people) weren't born there. How did that come about? It's actually one of the most multicultural countries in the western world.