Free State with Dion Fanning and Joe Brolly

Higgins5473

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122340378#Comment_122340378

Fanning called him out on it a few episodes ago asking why, he didn’t get any rationale explanation, he just called Harte a “cųnt” and then just went on some rant. It’s fairly bizarre, honestly at this stage I can only deduce from Brollys deep hatred for the man that something quite personal took place, still though it is totally excessive. The only thing it really confirms is in spite of brollys lefty liberal free love and peace for all facade of kindness and amiability, underneath this veneer lies a deeply disturbed, twisted individual consumed by vile hatred and malice. He’s full of shıt.

Did you smash it

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122340602#Comment_122340602

nothing there but gaa chat

Westernview

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122340990#Comment_122340990

Strange. I can hear it on spotify every time. Not sure if anyone else can hear it.

Shank Williams

Harte gone now so he will have to move on- I’m sure he’ll squeeze at least 1 more pod out gloating about it

Westernview

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122355318#Comment_122355318

I'm sure he will. I certainly won't be listening if that's the case.

No doubt Joe will apply himself for the position and get to enjoy the easy job of dealing with player egos, backroom staff, county boards, demanding supporters and acerbic newspaper columnists sniping from the sidelines and devoting entire podcasts to undermining him.

TheCitizen

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122340355#Comment_122340355

I don’t think the sentiment on here is anything to go by. I like the podcast in general although his dislike of Mickey Harte is odd. He’s not the first non Derry man to manage Derry. He might be old and past his best as a manager and it was a strange appointment by the Derry board but he didn’t appoint himself to the job and he must have pissed on Joe’s cornflakes.

Westernview

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122355453#Comment_122355453

I enjoyed the podcast until recently myself but the excessive targeting of Harte has put me off big time. If he got it off his chest in 1 podcast fair enough but I can't imagine listeners are enjoying listening to such sustained negativity.

TheCitizen

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122355417#Comment_122355417

I have wondered about that. He’s such a know it all about Gaelic Football why doesn’t he have a go at managing the senior team himself?

He is right about the proposed new rules in Gaelic football. They’re not going near far enough to change the horrible negativity in the game.

Derry v Kerry reminded me of why I stopped watching Gaelic football. I turned it on the day after Galway put Dublin out thinking that it may have inspired the other teams. It was garbage and it’s been like that for years. Why they’re doing nothing about it all these years is unfathomable. Joe should spend more time ranting about that than Mickey Harte.

Westernview

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122355534#Comment_122355534

The problem with gaelic football is that it's a flawed game that's difficult to referee no matter how you change it. One of the biggest issues is the tackle. Although it is defined in the rule book it's a grey area for referees. Only one man is allowed to tackle another player at the one time but how often do we see a number of players surrounding an attacking player and a free out given for overcarrying. Very difficult to assess when one player has finished tackling and another starting to tackle a second later. I don't think the new proposals are dealing with that at all.

TheCitizen

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122355573#Comment_122355573

That and going sideways and backwards. It’s a game that has been completely ruined and the GAA are so slow about doing anything. They don’t get the same crowds that they used to at football or hurling either and again very little said about it.

These proposals talk about 2 points for a point outside a certain yardage or more points for goals. That’s fine but will do nothing about a team that’s ahead that can just keep the ball between themselves and run the clock down. In rugby there’s ways of getting a ball back with a choke tackle. They need to bring that in, if you can wrap a player up it should be a turnover of possession. They seem to unofficially give that at times and penalise a player for over carrying. They should define it but if it’s too much like rugby’s choke tackle the mandarins in the GAA will resist it.

Hyperbollix

Today's pod - "The fall of the House of Paisley (and Harte)"

Haven't listened yet but my guess is it will be another exercise in mis-selling. 10 minutes on Paisley, 30 minutes of Joe whinging about GAA probably!

Westernview

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122358429#Comment_122358429

Who will replace Harte in the bitter rants I wonder.

Did you smash it

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122358522#Comment_122358522

has he been holding his fire on Jarlath Burns? Kieran Mcgeeney will likely get it if Armagh don’t beat Kerry. Has he already been getting it?

Westernview

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122358600#Comment_122358600

Possibly one of those. Or maybe NI politics will take over his attention again.

dog_pig

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122340380#Comment_122340380

They've promoted hotels, airlines, beer among other things.

Westernview

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122360007#Comment_122360007

Just a nodding dog it seems. Any time he offers even the mildest resistance Brollly turns into an indignant adolescent retorting with insults.

Hyperbollix

Latest episode another long, rambling meander for Brolly on the notion of Orangeism. Again, some interesting points made, such as the shared values of the Orange Order and the regime in Israel, Joe surmising that the Orangemen are looking on with envy at the Israeli's as they carpet bomb the civilian "terrorist" population into oblivion.

This show continues to suffer because it's always one long, 40 minute stream of consciousness with rare interruptions from Fanning, which are often loudly talked over. That man should be canonized such is his level of patience.

Higgins5473

listening to brolly now losing his shıt over Doug Beattie and the Armagh police car flag non-issue. Unionism in the north is on life support, leave em at it until it dies out which will be sooner rather than later. But anyway not getting into that, it’s the hypocrisy that gets me, Brolly, who often paints himself as an advocate for love and peace, hypocritically embodies a tempest of rage and bitterness. His long winded tirades, always uninterrupted by that wetwipe Fanning btw, the raised voice and barely contained fury, often dissolve into a spectacle of spitting and spluttering down the microphone, again with Fanning like his lapdog just letting him at it. Brolly more often than not shows a deep-seated anger that undermines his professed ideals. This obvious contrast between his self-proclaimed persona and his actual demeanour shows a glaring contradiction, especially with the sincerity of his love and peace for all waffle. I don’t know if it’s some kind of unresolved trauma or something but listening to him with all the rage, hate and anger, he could do with some serious professional help.

Westernview

He seems to be carrying a lot of repressed anger alright.

I agree - best to let the DUP & TUV dig their own holes. The pettiness they are showing on stuff like the homecoming will only turn off moderate voters. Another chance for them to show goodwill towards a positive event spurned.

Hyperbollix

Still dipping in here when a podcast title looks of interest!

They covered the Oasis ticketing fiasco and it began with Dion ribbing Joe about queuing for hours online to get them. Straight away Brolly goes for the shoulder barge into the brothers Gallagher. Real nasty stuff. He wouldn't be caught dead going to see them. Awful plodding music. Empty, vacuous lyrics devoid of any meaning. Strange wee chaps that had lots of plastic surgery etc etc!

I thought, even for Brolly this was a bit excessive. Then it all became clear. He had been on the Late Late Show at some point and, from the description of "a tiny wee doll like man" I can only assume he meant Noel Gallagher was on with him. A woman Joe knows had asked him to get Noel's autograph and Joe dutifully asked for it in the green room or the corridor before they went onto the studio. Apparently, Gallagher didn't even recognise Brolly had spoken to him and immediately his security and army of assistants swept him away, telling Joe that all autograph requests must be made officially to the office! What did Joe do? He's a senior barrister and piller of the community remember! Well he proceeded to shout abuse at Gallagher and questioned his Irishness telling him he better "run away" LMAO!

Is it any wonder he was black listed off RTE and Tubridy would have nothing to do with him. The man just has no off switch.

AdrianG08

Brolly brought up some pretty disturbing memories from his past during the podcast last week, spoke of his seeing a shrink for a couple of years to deal with it. Obviously didn't go into the details of it

Hyperbollix

Listened to that episode. Kind of fascinating in that he admits he was an awful príck to be around for most of his adult life. Driven, opinionated, combative in every situation. Every day was a war he had to win, kind of thing. Then he says in so many words that therapy…..and maturity, have allowed him to realize all this and now he is a delicate flower who is much more caring and considerate of others!

There's something odd about the way he plays the kidney donation card at every opportunity too. Yes, it was a very good deed that many others would never even contemplate doing. But he does admit in that episode that the foremost thought he had going into it was the kudos and performance aspect of this great deed. And it seems the ability to whip it out whenever anyone questions his motives.

RE his marriage chat and his new wife, I'm reminded of my dearly departed father's oft used expression. There really is a seat for every arse!

Westernview

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122683123#Comment_122683123

He really does need to take down that photo on his twitter profile of the lad he gave the kidney to. It's very unfair to him. Almost like he wants continuous, never-ending praise for donating it. Kind of takes the good out of it.

Hyperbollix

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122684531#Comment_122684531

Incredible. On a previous pod he was putting the boot into Roy Keane, I forget why, but I can only assume it was for another perceived slight to His Eminence.

It got me thinking, they have much in common. Both treated their sport like war. Both massively competitive. Both with large chips on the shoulder and a certain amount of grievance and grudges they carry around with them. But whereas Keane is worshipped by his fans and mainly liked and respected by everyone else, Brolly is detested by a great many and receives de facto bans from organizations like RTE (and many others by all accounts)

Who is the shrewder operator? The guy from Cork who hated school and admits he would have struggled in life had it not been for football or the big shot barrister who deigns to the tell the little people of Ireland how they should feel about everything from the economy to the migrant situation. And who believes he should be president, probably.

Christ, he's a top tier ballbag in fairness.

AdrianG08

Had a listen to Dion's podcast with former housing minister Eoghan Murphy (which was a welcome break from Joe's usual ramblings about Israel, and his yearning to be part of the Dublin football gang).

Murphy mentioned he'd met Joe about a year previous and whilst Joe was really jovial with him, Murphy admitted this jovial nature quickly turned personal when Murphy genuinely had no idea who he was (hes not a GAA man). To me that sums of Brolly to a tee.

I actually enjoy listening to the show, but from an unintentional comedic value aspect. That forced hard laugh Joe does, at one of his own high brow political quips is particularly cringe worthy.

I used to think i'd love to see Joe interview, or at least verbally spar with the likes of Jamie Bryson, Jim Allister and Ian Paisley Jr and the likes as he does enough talking about DUP/TUV dinosaurs up north, but i've come to the conclusion Joe would probably kiss their arse, and regale listeners with tales about how they previously went for dinner and share the same interest in music etc…. and name drop until his heart is content, and I think he doesn't trust himself either not to lose his rag if they were to challenge him either.

He stayed well away from the topic of his mate Jarlath Burns sticking his beak into the affairs of Naas GAA and Rory Gallagher aswell, but then again he probably needs to figure out which way the wind is blowing on that one with the common man.

Jim Herring

Jos Brolly == ***t.

I’ve never heard, read or seen anything to suggest otherwise.

Westernview

Brolly still has that bloody photo up on X awith the lad he gave the kidney to. He'll never let him forget it.

Hyperbollix

I'm amazed Dion has lasted this long. Only a man of endless patience and probably a slight lack of self confidence would sit down to listen to these rambling tirades week after week. The podcast isn't troubling the Top 10 either so is it really so lucrative that he'd keep it going. For Brolly, it's obviously nothing to do with cash, he has too much of that already, it's just a platform to pontificate about the topics of the day.

touts

Agree with that. Dion Fanning could carry a decent podcast by himself. But Joe is absolutely awful to listen to. His ego and hard-line political beliefs dominate every discussion.

Hyperbollix

It's a real mismatch in every sense. While that can work for some podcast duos, like Matt Cooper and Ivan Yates, it doesn't work with Dion and Brolly because fundamentally Brolly has no respect for Dion I think. You can't continuously talk over someone and insert west brit jabs and jibes nearly every episode if you have a small bit of respect for the other guy.