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COUNTDOWN TO CHELTENHAM 2024!

  • 16-11-2023 11:20am
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,625 ✭✭✭RivetingRoger


    120 Days

    2 hours

    11 minutes

    32 seconds


    To Mirazur West romping home in the Supreme Novice Hurdle, thus beginning the greatest week of the year!!!



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,357 ✭✭✭realdanbreen


    One week to go, any sign of life out there?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 100 ✭✭jamieon


    Constitution Hill now a Non Runner



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,866 ✭✭✭Panrich


    It was always likely. If he just came up with the issue last week, then he might have had a chance. But the fact that he missed the Unibet because of a 'poor scope' a month ago, means that something was probably lingering for some time.



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 2,036 Mod ✭✭✭✭The Mig


    Our private group is going well. There’s a meet up next week for the Tuesday racing. PM me if you want to get in. Goes for others too!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,357 ✭✭✭realdanbreen


    So is there no longer any Cheltenham open discussion on boards, just private groups?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 586 ✭✭✭Buddy97mm


    With Constitution Hill out, looks very straightforward for Statesman now in a very non-competitive renewal, the only danger I could see would be Lossiemouth were she to go that route, but don't see that happening.

    Marine Nationale also being out means Arkle looks very open, and likely not a great race.

    Ballyburn looks odds-on to win if goes in Supreme, and with Statesman and Lossiemouth looking nailed on in Champion and Mares Hurdle, the first day not looking great overall.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 838 ✭✭✭FLOOPER



    See PP have those two Lossiemouth and State Man along with GDC in treble up from 3/1 to 5/1.

    Decent bet?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 586 ✭✭✭Buddy97mm


    With Stateman at about 1/3, Lossiemouth 1/2 and GDC around 5/4, combined odds for treble is about 3.5/1, so on the face of it 5/1 seems decent value.

    Hard to see any of them being beaten to be fair. Had thought GDC looked a shadow of himself early in season, but seems to have re-found his mojo, very impressive LTO.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,357 ✭✭✭realdanbreen


    Still a little skinny I think GDC is the weak link.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,357 ✭✭✭realdanbreen




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,866 ✭✭✭Panrich


    I think Stateman will destroy this lot. It’s the worst field he’s faced this season. Past festival winner as well. Everything in his favour.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,357 ✭✭✭realdanbreen


    BTW are there any interviews out there, YouTube or whatever, where jockeys/trainers give an insight into the whole logistics of getting a bunch of horses to Cheltenham. Wliies yard alone must involve huge planning and organising.



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 2,036 Mod ✭✭✭✭The Mig




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,357 ✭✭✭realdanbreen


    Thanks but I really just want to watch something rather than having a discussion about it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,357 ✭✭✭realdanbreen


    I have watched a few Cheltenham preview nights and there are two analysts that I admire, Johnny Dinneen and Donn McLean. There are also several that have IMO little to offer, Katie Walsh or anyone connected to the WM yard for starters.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,232 ✭✭✭Justin10


    Waste of time listening to anyone from WM.

    Johnny Dinner would have his ear to the ground, and probably gets ahead of the hype, such as Sir Gino, Ballyburn, fact to file etc.

    Really like Gavin Lynch, I don't mind if lads don't find winners left right and centre, once they're not talking nonsense



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,357 ✭✭✭realdanbreen


    I saw Paul Townend on one recently, I know he's the quiet type but ffs all he did was smile and clear his throat every few minutes.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,866 ✭✭✭Panrich


    These Cheltenham previews are a cod at this stage. You're never going to hear a word for one that has a chance. Like Davy Russell said one year in the parade ring after a winner for Gigginstown, 'I really fancied this lad. I had an awful job keeping my mouth shut at the preview nights'.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,357 ✭✭✭realdanbreen


    It would be interesting to see how the whole thing operates. EG do big yards like WM or Elliott who would be sending 50 or more horses over send them all over in one go or do they stagger it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 89,006 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,376 ✭✭✭Shemale




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,376 ✭✭✭Shemale


    I stuck my head in to join the chat but seems dead on it's feet here, maderation got way to heavy handed, I blame that Mig Cúnt.

    A week before Cheltenham and there is someone that doesn't know the name of the multiple grade 1 winning, favourite of the Champion Hurdle.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,368 ✭✭✭naughto


    Tht mig loves the ban hammer



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,357 ✭✭✭realdanbreen


    While State Man looks the likely winner of the CH 1 to3 on is a horrible price and I'll definitely be opposing him at those odds.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,135 ✭✭✭finglashoop




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,376 ✭✭✭Shemale




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,376 ✭✭✭Shemale


    I am going to have MAX bet on Love Envoi, she won't be beat with the allowance



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,357 ✭✭✭realdanbreen


    To hell with might and the rest of them well stick together and make a fortune!!



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 2,036 Mod ✭✭✭✭The Mig




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,625 ✭✭✭RivetingRoger


    For anyone who wants to join the telegram group

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    Thank you.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,232 ✭✭✭Justin10


    Sir Gino, had been out to 5/1 on the exchanges.

    And Salvator mundi clipped all the way into 9/2 best price



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 512 ✭✭✭dickdasr1234


    My fancies for the handicaps:

    Tuesday

    Ultima: Amirite 16/1

    Boodles: Nara 16/1

    Wednesday

    Coral: Might I 16/1

    Grand Annual: In Excelsis Deo 14/1

    Thursday

    Pertemps: Noble Birth 16/1

    Trustatrader: Madara 12/1

    Kim Muir: Amirite 14/1/Famous Bridge 40/1

    Friday

    County: Pied Piper 14/1

    Martin Pipe: Answer to Kayf 16/1



    Yours?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,866 ✭✭✭Panrich


    I’ve backed;

    Amirite for Ultima

    MilanTino for Boodles

    Path D’Oroux & Frero Banbou for Grand Annual

    Icare Allen for Pertemps

    A nibble at Beacon Edge at long odds for Coral Cup



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,866 ✭✭✭Panrich


    Sorry I’m also on Answer to Kayf for MP. Did that last week and forgot about it until I read your post.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,357 ✭✭✭realdanbreen


    Well you backed some good prices there fair play to you. I must put up my own in a while.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 512 ✭✭✭dickdasr1234


    Hehe, yeah, my problem is choosing the right entry. My antepost bets have been decimated, though mostly NRNB.

    I do it every year and still haven't learned but his has got to be the worst year I can remember.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 160 ✭✭flos1964


    In an interview on racing tv yesterday with Willie Mullins he said they send them over in batches ...said not enough stables over there for all the horses.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,357 ✭✭✭realdanbreen


    I saw the fist load of Elliotts on the road yesterday.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 160 ✭✭flos1964


    Unreal...6 Mullins horses in opening race, only 3 English...



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 89,006 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    Brazil for Coral Cup e/w



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,260 ✭✭✭Juwwi


    Sent all the above , also sent photos front and back of my passport just to prove l'm serious about joining the group .



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,149 ✭✭✭blackcard


    I think the first 2 races are going to set the tone for the week. If Mullins wins both, you would fancy him to win 7 or 8 in the week



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 184 ✭✭bleaks


    Is this bet still available? Not seeing it on PP



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,866 ✭✭✭Panrich


    My bets for Tuesday so far:

    Supreme: A little e/w on Asian Master. Willie mentioned him when talking about Fact to File on one of the stable tour videos, as this lad finished second to that horse in a point to point. He said that FtF beat a very nice horse that they are sending to the supreme. I know that the jockey is inexperienced but on the flip side, it might be telling that with all the good horses the family have put through their hands down the years, they are hanging on to this lad. Might be a bit longer than he should as it's hard to rate where he stands in the pecking order as the ride was not up for grabs.

    Arkle: Quillixios win: Won the Triumph here as a juvenile. Disappointed a bit over hurdles afterwards. Is 2 from 3 over fences this season, and I'd forgive the defeat over 3 miles. Looked much better last time over 2M at Naas. There are questions about those above him in the market.

    Ultima: My initial bet here was Amirite ante-post but that's gone by the wayside. I've done Monbeg Genius as a single and have put The Goffer in a yankee.

    Champion hurdle: State Man on the exchanges after the initial news about CH came out. I thought it must be very telling that he scoped poorly twice this year already so I took a chance.

    Mares: I won't back against Lossiemouth but can't back her at the odds. I have her in a short-priced accumulator but it's not going to make a fortune even if it comes in.

    Boodles: Milan Tino. I think the Irish form looks a bit ordinary but as this is a handicap there might be something thrown in. However, this lad has a fair weight for what he has achieved so far along with course experience.

    National Hunt Chase: Salvador Ziggy. I had the misfortune to be on both of the top two in the market here last year, and they both blotted their copybook. The favourite also had an unfortunate exit from his prep race so I have gone with the next best aside from the top two. I know that SZ also had the unsatisfactory trip to the US as non-ideal prep.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,229 ✭✭✭jacool


    He is currently on 94 winners - that would see him over the ton this week!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,137 ✭✭✭gazza1


    Supreme

    I know he beat trees but I was hugely impressed with MISTERGIF's one and only run so far for WM when he won at the Limerick Xmas meeting and is entitled to come on for that run. 12/1 ew with 4 places on offer from pp is a decent shout in a very open race.

    Willie Mullins has sent 4 horses to the Supremein the past 10yrs that had previously run in France, 3 have won and the other was 2nd.

    Tullyhill had a freebie lto and just can't have him with his jumping.

    Firefox returning lame from the DRF isn't ideal prep and Gallileo is yet to Sire a Supreme winner Albeit from just 6 attempts but still can't have Mystical Power.

    Slade Steel is better over further and Jeriko Du Reponet's rating would only barely get him in to the Coral Cup so not for me either.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,137 ✭✭✭gazza1


    Other Day 1 bets

    Sticking with the Double Green for the Arkle with Hunters Yarn.

    He beat a 142 rated horse by 10L on the snaff and can easily the 160+ rating required to win this race. The rest of the field have all been already asked questions in their races to date and haven't hit that mark and I don't see where the necessary improvement would come from.

    And with 12 fences to jump instead of 8 hurdles It's a big ask for Gaelic Warrior going left handed


    Only other bet is Ashroe Diamond 9/4 W/O fav. PP

    Wheelbarrow job



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,123 ✭✭✭Imhof Tank


    Willie surely mops up HOWEVER there are trip doubts about a lot of his shorties – Ballyburn, Lossiemouth, Dinoblue, Facile V, Gaelic Warrior, Fact to File all unproven.

    That leaves State Man 4/11, El Fabiolo 4/9 and Galopin des C 11/8 – about 7/2 that muggy treble will do for me



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,357 ✭✭✭realdanbreen


    Did a small ew lucky 63 for Tuesday

    1.30 mystical power, 10/3

    2.10 my mate mozzie 8/1

    2.50 chianti classico 8/1

    4.10 echoes in rain 25/1

    4.50 ndaawi 15/2

    5.30 corbetts Cross 15/8 (I might aswell have one favourite!)



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