Should i ask for a pay rise

ADLPEAR

im currently a manager in my company and recently i have discovered that 2 of my staff earn 60e less a week than me. considering the workload, stress, and extra things I do compared to them compared to them i am wondering if should i approach the manager to ask for more money as I was thinking id rather be down the the 60e for the easier life the other workers have compared to me. If i this was the case there is no one inhouse to replace as none of the other are up to the job nor have any interest in doing anything more than they should

ADLPEAR

i currently work as a manager in my company and recently i have discovered that 2 of my staff earn 60e less than i do. considering the workload, stress, and extra things I do compared to them compared to them i am wondering if should i approach the manager to ask for more money as I was thinking id rather be down the the 60e for the easier life the other workers have compared to me

JimmyAlfonso

Is that a week? Also if all are on higher rate of tax that would be a gap of over €5k a year gross which is not insignificant. Depends if the current wage is the start of something where you will gain more experience and wages will rise at a faster rate than the people underneath you.

But on the basis of extra workload and stress it does seem like there should be a larger differentiator alright as you are probably working extra hours than they are thus bringing your hourly rate to the same level.

Now it's probably also worth considering would one of the staff replace you if you wanted to revert to staff level and how happy that would leave you?

ADLPEAR

yes, 60e a week. That's the thing there is no one here to replace me if i were to step down ( not bigging myself) i look after way more than i should in my role, which i am happy to do. but if i was to step down from my position and do the basics another person would need to be employed to take on the work i will not be doing anymore as the others would not be up to it

Ash.J.Williams

Do you work as a manager or are a manager ?

Dial Hard

Never base a salary increase request on what other people are earning, it's largely irrelevant and puts you on the back foot immediately. You need to demonstrate why *you* deserve a payrise - how you've increased bottom line/productivity/efficiencies/whatever it is. "It's unfair" isn't going to cut it, sadly.

Bargain_Hound

I'm very certain (without hard proof) that this is more common nowadays, particularly if you have been working for the same company and new hires are brought in on inflated starting salaries. I know in my company, new hires are being offered close to what some other senior members are earning as the promotion cycle (+ budget) just can't keep up with the market demand (IT).

Thread carefully sharing salary information amongst others, usually this is discouraged to avoid this type of outcome and it doesn't necessarily give someone a right to more money based on some else's reported salary.

TheBlock

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121255016#Comment_121255016

I'd encourage people to share salaries or at least ball park scales. Companies are the main beneficiaries of the secrecy around salaries.

28064212

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121254985#Comment_121254985

This

But also there is a salary that you should be comparing yours to - what you can get if you leave. There's absolutely no point threatening to leave if you don't get a 10% raise, if by leaving you end up with a 10% cut (or 100% if you can't find another job)

Jim2007

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058318691/should-i-ask-for-a-pay-rise

It really is not about what they can command in the market place, it's about what you can command and what you are worth to your employer. They might have better qualifications, a different skillset, range of experience, have been recruited during a market shortage, or are simply better negotiators regardless you need to concentrate on what you bring to the table when you ask for a pay rise.

If all you have is that they are earning almost as much as me, then you are asking if they think you are worth more than your colleagues and that may or may not go down well, they did not agree to pay these people almost as much as you for the fun of it.

If you do decide to ask for a pay rise, then concentrate on what you bring to the table - what you do, what you have achieved and how you add value - make them see what you are worth.

lbunnae

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121255870#Comment_121255870

You are looking it it purely from the employer side. The no 1 factor from the employee side is what they can command in the marketplace. Because that is the question , am I being underpaid? If you can command more then you are. But the caveat is obviously be prepared to leave.

Jim2007

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121255881#Comment_121255881

They are the one's you need to extract the cash from...

lbunnae

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121256464#Comment_121256464

You don't need to , you can leave no bother if you are being underpaid by them. Employers aren't idiots either , they know who is paid under market value.

Jim2007

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121256481#Comment_121256481

That may be in the case when you are young and hold a junior position, but once you are older, have commitments and limited opportunities it is not so easy.

lbunnae

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121259420#Comment_121259420

Fair enough

realdanbreen

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058318691/should-i-ask-for-a-pay-rise

What's your salary?