RTE Radio 1: The 9 O Clock Show hosted by Various Megathread

FrancieBrady

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122660403#Comment_122660403

How would you prove it isn't? Attacking individual programmes doesn't really cut it.

By comparison to like sized countries RTE's output across a wide range of programming compares favourably imo. Has it's faults as well.

RoTelly

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122660444#Comment_122660444

I attack the whole of RTÉ not just individual programmes. RTÉ have massive faults, I have outline a good few today on this thread.

So RTÉ do it slightly better than broadcasters in other countries, but what if other people in other similar sized countries are saying the same about their PSB?

FrancieBrady

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122660461#Comment_122660461

Wha?

RoTelly

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122660471#Comment_122660471

RTÉ is a failed public service broadcaster, I have outlined my reasoning for that time and time again here on boards, the mismanagement of RTÉ just helps prove that even further. Imagine how good RTÉ could be if you think RTÉ is a good PSB!

A person in lets say Denmark might be saying :-

"By comparison to like sized countries DR2's output across a wide range of programming compares favourably imo. Has it's faults as well."

Or a finnish person might say: -

"By comparison to like sized countries YLE's output across a wide range of programming compares favourably imo. Has it's faults as well."

Or a New Zealander might say: -

"By comparison to like sized countries TVNZ's and RNZ's output across a wide range of programming compares favourably imo. they have faults as well."

FrancieBrady

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122660504#Comment_122660504

Your opinion.
Is it a majority opinion among consumers of RTE, I don't think it is.

RTE has faults, nobody is in denial of that.

RoTelly

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122660551#Comment_122660551

Did I ever say it was anything but my opinion? But I hope I back that opinion up by some fact that lead me to the conclusion that it is a failed broadcaster.

I don't know how you have come to the conclusion that the majority of RTÉ consumers are happy with the service they provide.

And what do you mean by RTÉ consumers, those that use their service or those that pay for the service via the licence fee and taxation?

For example I don't consume Children's Content on RTÉ but I know it is important, but I also know that RTÉ have let it down over the last 2 decades or more in terms of funding.

FrancieBrady

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122660595#Comment_122660595

I reach the conclusion by looking at the people returning to listen to the range of programming they offer. Or the survey last year after the scandal that had only 20% wanting RTE scrapped.

This is again gone too far off topic, so I am out.

RoTelly

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122660640#Comment_122660640

RTÉ was never that popular to begin with. Both RTÉ Radio 1 and RTÉ 1 are the traditional local TV channels, it never had commercial competition from independents (though in more recent years Radio 1 has seen a competitor in NewsTALK). UTV was always the most popular channel in Norther Ireland for this localization.

From the beginning audience began looking for alternatives to RTÉ on TV. Aerials were erected across the board counties and east coast to pick up reception from BBC and ITV, this lead to the development of cable across Dublin, with a hodge podge of local cable operators (ultimately merging in the 2000s to be come UPC and Chorus) and within that I could go on about the arrival in rural areas of MMDS. By the late 1970s RTÉ had introduced RTÉ2, its purpose to provide the best of British TV to audiences in the south of the country, by the 1980s Cork and Limerick begin to get cabled and the direction of the second channel slightly changes.

Similar examples of cabelisation of countries can be seen in countries that sit beside larger countries that speak the same language, but for Ireland to go with them just for TV!

2FM is set up to fend of the popularity of the Pirates by the late 1970s and this continues into the 1980s with the arrive of Independent TV and Radio contracts.

Local Radio is a hit, why because it lies in a small market with only 3 other options (one of which is an Irish language option). Much like RTÉ Radio 1, Local Radio has the local ear. Audience want to hear about their regional news and their national news, so RTÉ Radio is a go to, as is local Radio. National Commercial radio was a difficult set up, with century radio failing and Radio Ireland eventual becoming Today FM to compete with 2FM.

Over the last 25 years RTÉ 1 audience has ranged from 18% to 25%, but this isn't far of what it was getting in the 1990s with less competition. RTÉ2 on the other had has seen a massive fall in audience, once at 10% until 2006, without sport it can sometime only muster 4% share. You might argue that this is due to online competition, but just look at the direction of the second channel and consider, while audience switch of TV RTÉ2 has lost a further audience. Irish TV get between 48% and 51% of the audience across 14 channels, a similar market share to what 4 channels were once getting). And whether you like it or not VMTV/TV3 channels are ITV channels so RTÉ and TG4 really only make up 25% - 30% of the TV audience (3 of those channels are simply +1s).

RTÉ radio is in a similar situation, Dubliners in particular were tuning into BBC Radio, while many were tuning to Radio Luxembourg for the top 40. Followed by local pirates. Local Radio makes up 50% of the audience in many regions, RTÉ's total 20%, with 2FM much like its sister TV station seeing flight of its audience.

Though I expect that many here still believe that only by paying high wages could RTÉ Radio and TV retain the audience that they continue to have.

As for the 20% of the people who would like to see RTÉ gone, how was the question put. For example if the option was to Keep RTÉ or to drop RTÉ, I would keep it, but if someone said Split it up like they did with FAS, I choose splitting it up.

RTÉ is not strong public service broadcasting, it never was. And Irish TV is pretty shite.

And that is failing to mention the 15% of people who even before the scandal did not want to pay the TV license many I believe refused to pay due to RTÉ not a dislike of Public service broadcasting. (While the extra numbers have yet to be brought back up and even the government has decided that the 85% figure of people paying will not return over the next 3 years).

Brian Scan

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122669344#Comment_122669344

Would you prefer a presenter with a strong Monaghan accent, Bobson?

FrancieBrady

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122669344#Comment_122669344

A lot of folk talk that way over around Inniskeen, much further south and east than Clones. I was listening to Callan a while before I realised he was lucky enough to be a Monaghan man.

Paterson Jerins

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122669344#Comment_122669344

So, still hate-listening to this, have you not found something else to occupy your time Dr?

RoTelly

Annual commitments of RTÉ (or annual perception of RTÉ …put out by RTÉ)

2023

Maintain public perception that RTÉ has high quality content and services at >75%
Commitment not achieved. 58% of Irish adults agreed

Maintain average weekly reach for all RTÉ services at or above 90% (18–34)
Commitment not achieved. Average weekly reach was 74%. This is then followed by an excuse !

Maintain public perception that RTÉ programmes and services are easily accessible on a range of devices at >70%
Commitment largely achieved. 68% of Irish adults agreed.

Maintain public perception that RTÉ provides trusted N&CA at >80%

Commitment not achieved. 70% of Irish adults agreed, which is just marginally behind 2022’s score of 72%. Trust in N&CA dipped in Q3 2023 however rebounded well in Q4.

Maintain public perception that RTÉ is trustworthy at >75%
Commitment not achieved. 52% of Irish adults agreed

These are not commitments, a commitment would be to say you going to do something not to make people think you are doing something.

And also RTÉ in 2022 said

Maintain public perception that RTÉ has high quality content and services at >75%
Commitment not achieved. 63% of Irish adults agreed. See contextual commentary in Introduction.

And even contextual speaking in 2021 (of which there is no context)

Maintain public perception that RTÉ has high quality content and services at >75%

Commitment not achieved. 65% of Irish adults agreed. See contextual commentary in Introduction.

These are reported by RTÉ themselves and a question has to be asked as to how they came to their 58% - 65% conclusion. They are perceptions as I say not commitments.

For example I you might perceive this post to be way off topic, but I am committed to the view that 85% of people reading this post think it is relevant! I am sure I have not met that committed perception and much like RTÉ.

Wha!

Brendan Bendar

Hmmmm.. noticed that Callan took down the main political parties in Ireland on his ‘riff’ this morning.

Not a mention of the largest party in opposition……. Very interesting.

FrancieBrady

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122696131#Comment_122696131

Thought his 'wings' had been clipped?

Brendan Bendar

Callan pillorying Kamala Harris again this morning … what has the lad got against her?

Wonder will he go after SF on the serious stuff going on up North….. uhmmm

Brian Scan

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122699970#Comment_122699970

Cue Francie.

Brendan Bendar

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122699976#Comment_122699976

Lad must be onto Connolly House for direction on this one Breener……

Brian Scan

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122699986#Comment_122699986

Harsh, Brenner.

Brendan Bendar

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122699992#Comment_122699992

Aaah lad is fighting on several fronts Breener, the auld command room up in the Farney must be under pressure.

FrancieBrady

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122699976#Comment_122699976

Didn't listen this AM Brian.

Has the lad we were breathlessly told had his 'wings clipped' gone rogue again? 😁

Brian Scan

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122700010#Comment_122700010

He had a cut at Trump and Harris. The Brenner seems only to have heard the cut at Harris.

FrancieBrady

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122700028#Comment_122700028

'Brenner' has long since been told to get his equipment looked at. Should check the old sources that give him his hot takes on what's going on behind the scenes too maybe? 😁

Brian Scan

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122700035#Comment_122700035

Have the two of you considered relationship counselling?

MrMusician18

Weak interview with James Blunt this morning where a good few of his jokes and quips didn't land.

Brian Scan

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122700102#Comment_122700102

Yeah, it was a bit awkward.

Brendan Bendar

Yes it was, Blunt was not a good interviewee though.

Rightly or wrongly I felt Callan never warmed to the Blunt once he had form in the British Army.

Callan can be a good interviewer in fairness but the rapport with Blunt and yesterdays Adrian Chiles interview was chalk and cheese.

Brian Scan

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122700244#Comment_122700244

Yeah, he didn't seem to toke to the Blunt.

EmmetSpiceland

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122700327#Comment_122700327

Or any mention of the benefits of a urinal in the home?

Paterson Jerins

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122709783#Comment_122709783

Bluffer. Now you've "applied" for radio mod, you think Callan is not bad for a radio host. You hate listen to him, and bitch about him non stop. The proof is here on this thread, ever since callan took the job from that horror tubridy.

Do you believe the lies you are telling? Crazy stuff dr philes.

Brian Scan

Callan taking a cut at Sinn Fein this morning, Brenner.