Army-Land Component

roadmaster

Id said id set up a Thread on its own for the Army or as some state documents are calling it the Land component so army matters have there own thread

There was a news article last week about the final deployment of troops to syria. It was mentioned they will start bringing home all the gear shortly. In regards to the Mowags the ones that are brought home will they be coming home via Switerland for a major overhaul or can that be done in the curragh?

sparky42

I suppose it depends, how worn are the MOWAGs (thought they were cycled out for the Mid Life Upgrade a few years ago?) and whether or not the Curragh has the personnel left to handle the work?

roadmaster

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121073474#Comment_121073474

Thats true about the upgrade but unless the 20 plus mowags that are out there have being swaped out reguarly they must have being driven verly hard and will need some TLC

Larbre34

Who cares?

We don't have enough personnel to get full training use of the 60 odd units in service at home anyway, so if 20 from Syria go off-call for a few months, they won't be missed.

In any case, scheduled overhaul of these vehicles is a very routine bit of work, its hardly worth talking about.

roadmaster

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121075274#Comment_121075274

Well hopefully they well have apcs deploying with the EUBG for training

roadmaster

Looks like there was some fun in the glen

https://m.independent.ie/irish-news/behind-enemy-lines-as-worlds-best-sniper-teams-go-head-to-head-in-the-wicklow-mountains/a339335389.html

mupper2

The new Irish Transitional Multicam pattern (ITMP) coming in soon along with a new complete clothing system for it.

Dohvolle

Nice, you can still see hints of the old pattern.

mupper2

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121157618#Comment_121157618

You can also see the FF's😯

Dohvolle

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121158380#Comment_121158380

Oh jaysus yeah.

Manic Moran

"Transitional"?

As in there will be another pattern to come? What's the point?

(I'm going blind, I can't see any FFs)

jonnybigwallet

That's our secret weapon to prevent blue on blue incidents.

mupper2

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121168718#Comment_121168718

....

Dohvolle

There goes the secret. Going to have to redesign the whole lot now. Thanks Mupper!

mupper2

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121170491#Comment_121170491

...😁

roadmaster

I love yesterday when the shi@t hit the fan in cork the first thing the local reps and the media could think of was ring the Army.

The way things are going the defence forces will not always be there when that call comes. When the Navan Bus Crash happenend 20 odd years ago the air corps where able to deploy in numbers to support very quick.

Last Month we had to take 112 off line so the rangers could carry out a mission.

We are walking this state in to a major issue

mupper2

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121257540#Comment_121257540

Sometimes the only way to learn a lesson is the hard way.

sparky42

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121259237#Comment_121259237

True enough, but something tells me when that lesson comes due every finger is going to be pointing to the DF and not the b*stards that created the situation.

mupper2

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121273845#Comment_121273845

To be fair and luckily the DF at the time will consist entirely of 22 Generals and 125 Colonels...

roadmaster

I was in one off our lovely barracks a few weeks ago with a client and we met several officers and that was one think that i noticed why has the army so many Colonels?

Dohvolle

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121274814#Comment_121274814

That's one of those unanswered mysteries, like why do men have nipples.

What do you call a Lt Col who couldn't get a civvy job when he retired? Colonel!

There are 2 equivalent ranks in both the Air Corps and Naval service. My that logic, the army should have no more than 12 colonels. Yet there are something like 30 odd. Some are directors of corps, which is fair enough, but nobody knows what the rest do.

ZeroThreat

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121275110#Comment_121275110

lol sounds similar to the Italian navy who have more admirals than vessels

jonnybigwallet

Same as the Royal Navy!

mupper2

Just had a it of an AM thought over on the former bird app and thought I'd raise it here too to get opinions.

What if due to the current situation the DF can't purchase/support kit from the Israelis, Whether from which ever end it comes from ours or theirs.

I now it's unlikely but we do use a decent amount of their stuff, from UAVs to SATCOMs to some specialised stuff in the Wing etc

Dohvolle

Are we still using helmets from Israel? We used one Orlite OR201 type from the early 80s till the early 2000s, then the Rabintex RBH303 replaced it. Not sure if its still in use.

mupper2

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121293720#Comment_121293720

It is..bit ironic since Rabintex the company went under years ago...

They are supposed to be replaced soon, but the project sees to be lagging a bit.

sparky42

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121294053#Comment_121294053

Really, a defence procurement project that is lagging... Might be easier to count which ones aren't...

roadmaster

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121293116#Comment_121293116

We still buy a lot of ammo i think of them but we usally tender it and go for the cheapest weather its from Pakistan or Israel.

I seen on Defence Forces social Media laat week the 105s were back working. We ill have to put an order in for 105 shells which could take a while

Dohvolle

We were getting ammo from South Africa also.

It was shite.

mupper2

Department of Defence - Call for Tender for the provision of Combat Helmets and Accessories

The Minister for Defence is seeking responses from economic operators through this Pre-Qualification Questionnaire (PQQ) for the purchase of Combat Helmets and Accessories to the Department of Defence, Ireland for use by the Irish Defence Forces. The requirement exists for the supply of up to 6,105 with options to buy lots to a total of 12,500 (all told) within 7 years

Edit, Budget is 15 million...which is interesting.

roadmaster

The RG32 is due to be replaced shortly. The Bushmaster seams to have turned out to be a good design.

When the replacement tender comesout Could we see Timmoney joint venture maybe offer to build the Bushmaster in navan as a replacement similar to the plan they had to build the eagle?