Clampdown on TV 'Dodgy Boxes'

dublin49

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123583139#Comment_123583139

well are you arguing that no matter how many stream free the prices for those that pay are unaffacted

Rocket_GD

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123584775#Comment_123584775

No I've never once made the argument.

You've made the argument that with more subscribers it would be cheaper, explain your logic that Sky would reduce their prices if they had some more subscribers?

Have Netflix, Spotify, Youtube or any streaming service reduced prices the more subscribers they had?

jmcc

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123583603#Comment_123583603

Is this a claim from Weckler's article or is it based on any facts?

Sky has major deals with cable TV operations and some other operations. These operations will cover most of the market. Historically, Ireland was well ahead of the UK on the development of cable TV and at one time, Cablelink's (now Virgin) Dublin network was one of the largest in Europe. Satellite broadcasting covers the part of the market not covered by cable TV franchises. The broadband bandwidth needed for high quality streaming may not be universally available and satellite TV broadcasting still covers part of the market. It is not a single market that can simply be served by streaming. The cable TV aspect is important because some Sky channels are on the basic tier of channels while sports and movies are on higher priced tiers. The cable TV operations handle the subscriptions and pay Sky for these channels. Sky switching completely to streaming would mean dropping a major part of its business with cable TV operations.

Regards…jmcc

dublin49

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123584785#Comment_123584785

I would have thought it is pretty basic economics,the more subscribers you have the cheaper your fix costs are.

Therefore you can offer better value to the larger customer base.

To answer the questions about do i think they would drop there prices with more subcribers,probably not,but maybe there would be less increases in prices if their costs reduce.

Rocket_GD

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123584929#Comment_123584929

Then why does no one reduce prices the more popular they get? This is across the board, do clothing brands reduce prices when they become more fashionable? Restaurants packed every night, do they lower prices?

No an increase in demand = an increase in prices.

Again your conflating the point, Sky increase their prices because they say they don't have enough customers and blame IPTV for this. Majority of the IPTV customers don't want the product that Sky are offering. So the removal of IPTV doesn't increase Sky's actual customer base by 400k or I'd wager even 50k.

Johnboy1951

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123584788#Comment_123584788

Sky switching completely to streaming would mean dropping a major part of its business with cable TV operations.

I do not see why you believe this.
The cable operators can just as easily (easier even?) use a streaming feed from Sky.

Now I could forsee the Cable Operator dropping Sky if it became commercially unviable, but I see no real reason why Sky would drop the Cable Operator.

What am I missing?

Manc-Red_

Glasto on the iplayer is amazing with a VPN.

jmcc

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123585020#Comment_123585020

Pay TV is a complex business. Sky has major deals with cable TV companies. The cable TV companies carry Sky's TV channels. People subscribe to the cable TV services because they make it easy to get a range of programming. Cable TV operations also offer broadband and telephone services. Cable TV operations have been a major part of Sky's business for decades and even with satellite TV broadcasting. People pay for simplicity.

Sky switching completely to streaming with direct billing of the subscriber would make things more complex for many people who want simple solutions and it would also increase the administrative costs for Sky.

What you are missing are the links and information from Sky to back up the claim that Sky is switching completely to streaming.

Perhaps you can provide these links to back up the claim that Sky is switching to streaming,

Regards…jmcc

jj880

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123585027#Comment_123585027

Ive the iplayer going here too...

PixelCrafter

I wonder if that's just the number of households with broadband, minus the number pay tv subscriptions…