National Genotyping Programme - ICBF

Lime Tree Farm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121544230#Comment_121544230

I only ever had to do one hair sample, but don't remember where it was posted to. That hair sample failed, we had to button test her a second time.

Enda78

Just wondering if anyone has gotten any genotype results back yet? I would have thought that they would have been available by this stage. Has anyone signed up and decided to leave the programme due to how long it's taking to get results?

emaherx

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121636102#Comment_121636102

When did you post them? They should be available in 8-10 days.

Enda78

These are for the cows, maiden heifers, etc that were in the place not this year's calves. The initial samples went back in mid October and then a batch every week after that.

whelan2

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121636102#Comment_121636102

If it's the samples from last year there's an update run of ebi etc next week. The new samples are very slow. Posted samples last Friday, they haven't even received them yet. 21 samples from before Christmas not tested yet. Bvd samples posted last Friday, got results yesterday, so it's not a post problem

Enda78

I'm wondering if they can turn around calves in 2 weeks if it takes the initial exercise is taking over three months.

Sami23

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121636209#Comment_121636209

Did you look up the Cows tag numbers on ICBF - updated stars should appear there.

You won't get any written results back.

Enda78

Most of them are showing as genotyped since mid November but showing no genomic evaluation yet and no EBI, parentage confirmed, etc yet.

whelan2

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121636291#Comment_121636291

They will show next week in the new run of results

Diarmuid B

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121636216#Comment_121636216

I sent two on the 2nd of jan, ICBF received on 4th and the genotype received on the 11th. This is all going by the dates on the HerdPlus app that lets you track them. App is pretty slow to update so I’d say they might only be doing 1 update a week on the app maybe?

whelan2

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121636319#Comment_121636319

Ye young lad checking daily. Yesterday there was 25 of last years samples to be tested, this morning 21

Enda78

Cheers Whelan2 for that. Hopefully next week so.... Whether there is actually a benefit to genotyping? I'd love to know!

Silverdream

Is it normal for the calves to stay pending genotyping and there blue cards not being issued until results?

whelan2

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121636716#Comment_121636716

Yes

Silverdream

Feck it, I tagged calves without having the genotype button, I've only ordered the buttons with a few days so God knows when I'll have them sorted. Poor communication from all on this one. It was only the fact that I hadn't got the blue cards that I thought something was up.

whelan2

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121636780#Comment_121636780

Going to be a shitshow when the main calving season starts. I can't order tags for the ones I've tagged who've lost their tags already until they're on the system. No use icbf making up booklets now, should have been done months ago.

whelan2

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121636307#Comment_121636307

We'd normally have to genotype our pedigree Angus cattle, hair samples. A good few times they come back as being unusable. Tagging is handier, done and dusted at birth

whelan2

I rang icbf there. The sample before Christmas and those after Christmas are going to different places. The aim is to be able to process 85000 samples a week by early February. He has no idea where the samples are that i sent last week. I quoted the post they've up on Facebook of a farmer from meath getting his results in just over a week. He reckons that's not for the new scheme....

jaymla627

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121638007#Comment_121638007

Anyone that signed up volunteering for the above should really of used the head and stayed out of it,theirs going to be probably 100's of thousands of calves stuck on farms for weeks extra when the inevitable happens and the system crashes in February....

Anytime the current goverment sets up a scheme that has "free" money for jumping through hoops it never materialise as planned

whelan2

The guy I was talking to this morning wouldn't instill too much confidence in me that it will run smoothly at all

endainoz

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121638441#Comment_121638441

Who said it was free money? There's no payment for this scheme.

jaymla627

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121639980#Comment_121639980

The carrot was free genomic testing wasn't it for the 1st year...

whelan2

It's 4 euro per test this year afaik

Lime Tree Farm

It's female dna only, we had 3 sets of twins last year, 2 mixed gender and 1 both male, only the females got the free dna.

endainoz

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121640065#Comment_121640065

Nobody has entered this scheme expecting to get paid for anything. It's just for the convenience of getting genomic evaluations done much earlier and far easier to do it at birth rather than the middle of the summer when genomics tags have to be done.

That's why I applied anyway, cost per calf won't break the bank for me anyway. Obviously more to consider for bigger herds, but wouldn't apply to the likes of me.

There certainly are schemes that "make you jump through hoops" as you say but this isn't one of them.

Silverdream

I honestly can't fathom why I joined. It's like the Bvd Scheme all over again. Early adopters were promised early exit which didn't happen. Now here we go again..

Fool me once fool you, fool me twice fool **** me!!

jaymla627

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121640535#Comment_121640535

Its effectively locking up your ability to sell bull/beef calves if the inevitable happens and their are huge delays, coupled with the 42 day tb rule it will cause havoc

sonnybill

I joined . My biggest fear is losing the scep over a non paying scheme , where a calf proves to be out of a bull that broke in or a strong bull weanling and not the ai qualifying sire I used on her

its non selective , a man could avoid an animal if unsure of parentage when genotyping for scep only

whelan2

Icbf had plenty of time to get their stuff together. Not looking good so far

older by the day

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121638441#Comment_121638441

Did I not say that earlier in the year. They know if they will get a few goody two shoes, to sign up with a few carrots. Then they will bring in a law that we will all have to do it later on