Dublin residences under airport flight paths; negligence on behalf of airport, Irish transport, who?

Sugar_Rush

All I can say is my heart goes out to the affected:

https://twitter.com/NewstalkFM/status/1683560685995802625?s=20

As I understand, the airport has updated flight paths and now flights travel over residential areas with a number of houses effected.

In my opinion, whomever is responsible, be it airlines, the airport itself, Irish transport (who must have authorized the change), should simply foot the bill for rehousing the affected, or reconfigure the situation to alleviate this burden.

Can you imagine living there?

Having to wear ear plugs, suffering anxiety, you children suffering anxiety.

Straight up negligence and deserving of more media coverage.

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I know I know, war in Ukraine, many worse situations but as anyone who has experienced it can relate, that kind of noise invasiveness is crippling and action to correct the issue should be taken immediately (part of which will involve enough media coverage such to compel the negligent parties to review their error).

suvigirl

But flight paths always went over residential areas. Ask anyone living in portmarnock.

I imagine it could be hard to get used to, at first, but after a while you don't even notice them. I used to have a railway line at the bottom of the garden, after a few days you don't hear the trains.

Sugar_Rush

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120895732#Comment_120895732

This article specifies that since the beginning of this month, residences which formerly had no disturbance, now have intolerable, deafening disturbance.

Never lived in Portmarnock, no idea the degree of noise pollution but based on the name alone, I doubt it's something locals would complain about.

This article was obviously raised due to the degree of interference, and there's actually a video segment with a resident where the plane flies over head, and she literally cannot be heard, it's that extreme;

Tolerating that from 6 am to 11 pm every day..........

lawred2

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058306426/dublin-residences-under-airport-flight-paths-negligence-on-behalf-of-airport-irish-transport-who

a lot of these poor souls live in the most exclusive neighborhoods (expensive) in Ireland. Where do you think they'll want to be rehoused?

Newstalk click/engagement baiting.... zzzzzzzzzzzz

lawred2

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120895915#Comment_120895915

I live in the area... it's rarely anywhere near as bad as painted out by some people to be.

Del2005

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120895915#Comment_120895915

I know people who grew up under the airport flight paths and I know people who moved close to the airport. The people who grew up never noticed the aircraft flying over, any visitors would be constantly looking up. The people who moved close to the airport didn't notice after a few days, again any visitors would notice the noise.

These people are trying to scam the airport for more money and a click bait journalist needs a story. The same aircraft have been flying over other people's homes for years with no issues.

Frank Bullitt

So if you hear a plane overhead, you should be allowed to be rehoused? That sounds deadly, and a very workable solution.

sameoldname

I really have to question where exactly that video was filmed because I doubt it's the village mentioned in the article, Kilsallaghan which looks to be about 5km at least from the end of the runway. From how low those planes are in the video I'd say it was probably filmed near St. Margarets GAA Club which is less than a kilometer from the end of the north runway. Maybe I'm wrong though.

suvigirl

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120895915#Comment_120895915

How.do you mean 'based on the name alone'?

flights have always gone over portmarnock, and no they don't complain, why would they?

Overheal

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120896009#Comment_120896009

Lived under a flightpath near Shannon and yeah you can hear it but as you say you tune it out, only really noticed again for a while after 9/11.

At best IMHO sounds like a light sleeper with their window open in the summer just being a crank.

L1011

The IAA updates the flight paths, not the airport. The most recent change has moved them closer to what was in the original noise profiling, e.g. the places that were always going to be hit with noise.

Many of those complaining knew they were going to be under flight paths, or just ignored everything about it. The north runway has been planned for about SIXTY YEARS, so the number of people legitimately unaware of it before they moved there is miniscule.

LOUD NOISES…

if you don’t like the noise, move. What else should we move people for? Annoying neighbours?

I lived next to a field before and the smell of shite when they’d spread the slurry was violent. Maybe I should seek compensation and a new gaff.

Kermit.de.frog

New runway was planned for 60 years. The land was bought for it 60 years a go. Every single person living near the airport or under the new flight paths knew full well what was planned and many bought houses in the near environs knowing it anyway.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Pn0WdJx-Wkw&pp=ygUMTGV0IGVtIGNyYXNo

Overheal

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120896239#Comment_120896239

shoulda been out there testing cotton swabs off your roof tiles for bovine fecal matter

LambshankRedemption

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120896239#Comment_120896239

I live next to a field which my father used to call the matrenity ward. Any cow that was due to go into labour is put into it, and they can moo all night before they give birth.

Which TD do I write to to get compensation and a new gaff?

awec

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120896044#Comment_120896044

You are bang on the money.

The lady in the video has been in the media numerous times in the past year. She is a resident of St Margarets, not Kilsallaghan. St Margarets is literally right at the end of the runways.

Moving to St Margarets and claiming surprise at the noise from an airport? I'm not buying it. North runway or no north runway, you're going to hear planes.

I am curious if her research before buying her house involved looking at a map.

prunudo

Why do the media entertain these types of people in this country. As kermit says, the runway has been planned for 60 years, anyone who bought at house with 10km should have done their homework. No sympathy what so ever.

Sugar_Rush

This all kicked off at the start of this month.

Obviously some changes came into effect that are effecting residencies where they formerly had not.

What about that is challenging to understand?

Sugar_Rush

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120896512#Comment_120896512

facepalm

https://www.instagram.com/reel/CvE4vVOteGw/?utm_source=ig_embed&ig_rid=d4b9a93b-806f-4d86-a485-10ceaf886fe1

The video clearly outlines they did their research.

They were not meant to be under a flight path, but that changed without notice.

Sugar_Rush

Listen to the noise in that video and tell me you'd get "accustomed".

Denialism is real.

timetogo1

When I was growing up in Swords near the golf club the windows used to rattle occasionally for some flights (this was 45 years ago).

We didn't know we could get compo :)

On the plus side I sleep like a rock.

Sugar_Rush

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120896478#Comment_120896478

You do understand the difference between "hearing planes" and "being deafened by planes".

What is it with the victim blaming in this thread?

Sugar_Rush

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120896239#Comment_120896239

"Move".

lolwut?

Yeah it's just that simple, move from a rented premises.

Never mind a purchased premises.

It's not like they're in mobile homes and can just "move" to the next halting site.

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And Irelands policy of addressing noisy neighbours also is nothing short of deplorable and DESTROY's home lives for decent folk.

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This thread feels like we've been transported back to the "God fearing" early 1900's and basic cognitive function and environmental awareness is condemned as being witch craft.

Sugar_Rush

From comments:

DAA got planning permission for North runway based on westward takeoffs going straight out until altitude of 3.000 ft. However aircraft turning north west at 650ft.

Terrible. They should be forced to stick to the planned and agreed flight paths.

This country needs to enforce rules. I’m sure they would enforce if all the neighbours decided to get drones

Sugar_Rush

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120896512#Comment_120896512

.d

prunudo

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120896539#Comment_120896539

Facepalm back at you! if you live near the airport, especially to the east or west of runways you're going to get over flights and noise, deal with it or jog on.

Northernlily

It's an International Airport. Tough ****.

It could become a major connection hub yet aswell. Will only get busier. Margarets could even be CPO'd some day.

Jinglejangle69

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120896819#Comment_120896819

What about climate change?

The government tell us it’s an emergency.

bartkingcole

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120896838#Comment_120896838

You are right. It is an emergency but if they closed the airport the same people would object to planning permission for housing on the basis that it was designated as an airport.

TokTik

Tough. Live near an airport, your gonna hear airplanes.

Viscount Aggro

There was a group of families who were moved, during construction of the new runway. They were rehoused and well compensated.