Tinted number plates

pgj2015

What is the story with them? Are people actually getting away with having them? its taking the piss in my opinion as are the people with no front number plate.

HildaOgdenx

Mod - Moved to Motors.

Local charter now applies.

Hilda

finbarrk

I don't know how are they allowed. Difficult to read.

MarkR

I kind of like them, but they're not legal. You've the hassle of changing for the nct. I asked a guy who has a load of his cars with them (business) and he doesn't get hassle from the police. I expect if you do get pulled for something genuine they'll add it to the list.

pgj2015

would a speed camera be able to read them?

Gumbo

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120897180#Comment_120897180

Yes

elperello

There is a legally defined number plate and anything that doesn't conform is illegal.

NCT can and do fail non legal plates.

On the road AGS generally don't bother unless the vehicle is stopped for some other reason.

Multi agency checkpoints including Revenue Commissioners will issue fines.

pgj2015

I think the next fad will be no plates at all.

Idleater

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120897260#Comment_120897260

I wondered just that myself this morning as I saw the third truck in as many journeys without a number plate on the trailer.

Was on the cab though.

Atlantic Dawn

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120897260#Comment_120897260

Back in the late 80's people would buy a new car in November/December and drive around in it with "For Reg" as the number plate until January when they would register the car, thus getting them a car cheaper because dealers gave better deals at year end. This was eventually clamped down on.

zg3409

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120898389#Comment_120898389

Sometimes trucks forget or the reg falls off

Other times there is no way to hold the reg on the trailer as shape is wrong or fixings are missing. No excuse but I think there is mitigating circumstances. They may pull multiple trailers per day and it's hassle to create a holder on old worn trailers.

goochy

saw a 231 BMW SUV - WHITE with no plate with just black 231 C xxx - no euro or county name - it looked really well on a white car but obviously totally illegal and dont approve

bazz26

Those were probably just garage display plates. Car could have been out on a test drive.

fricatus

Just curious if there is anything like this outside of Ireland. I'm sure it happens in countries lower down on the development index, but for sake of argument, has anyone ever seen unapproved number plates in another OECD country?

I know I'm more likely to see this sort of thing in Ireland as I live here, but I've travelled a reasonable bit and never seen modified plates in any other country. The closest I've seen is personalised "cherished" plates in the UK, but they're still legal, and conform to the law on size, font, colour, etc.

Ireland seems to be a free-for-all... grey-tinted plates, yellow plates (a Donegal and Monaghan specialty), and squirly unreadable fancy handwriting fonts.

User1998

Theres plenty of illegal plates in the UK, incorrect spacing, incorrect sizing, 4D etc.

pgj2015

I saw a 07 turned into Q7 on a BMW once.

Idleater

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120900181#Comment_120900181

Plenty of the significantly raised 3d plates in the Netherlands last few times I've been there. Haven't seen italics though.

pgj2015

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120900583#Comment_120900583

The raised plates look awful in my opinion.

zell12

I assume the motorist concerned informs their insurer that they are not complying with legislation

elperello

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120900691#Comment_120900691

It's revenue legislation so it won't have any repercussions for insurance.

User1998

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120900691#Comment_120900691

🙄🙄

colm_mcm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120900605#Comment_120900605

They don’t look as bad on the Dutch plates for some reason, think the font is different or they don’t have the letters as thick as you see here.

mada999

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058306412/tinted-number-plates

unreal, dont know what the craic is.... maybe it's a monkey see, monkey do kind of thing.... like smoking back in the day lol

AyeGer

Where do people get these tinted plates in the first place.

User1998

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122331891#Comment_122331891

Motor factors or online websites

pgj2015

Can they be read by speed cameras?

Kurooi

This should be a no BS policy specific design, font size and even the smallest change from it is penalty and fines.

There are plenty of vanity plates on the road and most have in the slightest way reduced the font size or introduced flourishes and italics that overall make the reg harder to read.

Montage of Feck

Seen a good few black on dark grey plates that are barely legible, a sign of the increasingly lawlessness on the road.

goochy

Yes and on new cars

SVI40

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120898389#Comment_120898389

I travel the M50 every weekday for work, and the amount of trailers with no registration plate, or one not matching the cab is getting more and more common. It's like the drivers don't care, as the chances of being pulled over are probably zero.

kaahooters

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122332323#Comment_122332323

yes

drury..

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120897260#Comment_120897260

The ones with the plates obscured with muck and dust are crafty enough

kaahooters

ive started to see a lot of people with the "4d" plates with numbers "missing", but differing on front and back plates.

ie.

221 d 12345 would be the plate

front might be
221 d 2 45

back might be

2 1 d 123 5

might be crap plates, but, ive seen it a lot more then i thought i would just in the past week.

drury..

Is there widespread attempts at evading cameras going on

JohnC.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122334039#Comment_122334039

I've seen that on a car that regularly parks near me, but a few days later it was complete again. Just crap plates with number falling off I assume.

kirving

Gardai should be enforcing it. If you're trying to reduce the contrast of your reg, you have something to hide. California for example allow you to pay per year, for Black/Yellow plate. Good contrast, looks good on black cars.

In any case, if you wanted to evade cameras, there is a much easier way to do so than to use a dark plate. I've designed targets to test infrared cameras, and it's far easier to do than you'd think.

drury..

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122336298#Comment_122336298

What do u mean designed targets

kirving

To test the image quality of a camera, you can point it at a paper target with different features printed on it, and check how those features look on screen.

If it's an infrared camera (M50 toll / speed camera) that you're testing, and you use the wrong type of ink, most of the infrared light will pass through it, and it'll be difficult/impossible to see the features (ie: reg plate) from the camera, but you can easily see with your eyes.

Similar to how the black plastic numbering used on 4D reg plate, might just happen 👀 to be the same material that's used on the tip of a TV remote control. (black to your eyes, but transmissive to IR light).

pgj2015

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122333859#Comment_122333859

Not really crafty as you can be fined for a dirty number plate.

saw a van that had a bull bar blocking his front plate.

kaahooters

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122337377#Comment_122337377

yea, not so much, if you can take a picture with your phone camera, itll show up on the speedin cams,

kirving

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122339632#Comment_122339632

In the day time, yes. At night, it's very easy to defeat an Infrared camera, as the LEDs only illuminate above a certain wavelength, to prevent blinding drivers.

flyer_query

To those replying that a camera can read them you seem to think that this makes it ok, it doesn't, besides it being illegal its crucial that a number plate can be read by the naked eye for a multitude of reasons.

Besides the illegality of it, they also fail the taste test, these number plates along with the gel plate and German ones just look distasteful and tacky.

whisky_galore

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122339954#Comment_122339954

This.

A plate of a car that can't be read easily in low light shouldn't be allowed on the road. Those tinted ones look nearly completely black in some lighting conditions or viewed from certain angles.

User1998

They are dark alright but why do people care so much. Focus on your own problems

Viscount Aggro

I have seen a new 24 reg BMW in Kildare…

an old guy driving it… the EU flag part of the plate was black.

Someone like that is trying be cool, but is that a legal plate?

zell12

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122339989#Comment_122339989

No.

whisky_galore

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122339973#Comment_122339973

If someone hit you or your car on the road and drove off, you might want to know who did it, no?

User1998

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122340021#Comment_122340021

That is literally the only argument anyone on here can ever come up with when it comes to illegal plates. Its a hypothetical scenario which is so unlikely to ever happen.

First of all you need to get crashed into, then they need to drive off, and they need to have illegal plates, and you need to have been able to read them if they hadn’t been illegal. I mean come on, what are the chances. Just get on with life and stop worrying about dark reg plates

whisky_galore

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122340034#Comment_122340034

There are crashes, big and small, every day of the week on the roads.

There's hit and runs, sometimes fatal, maybe once a fortnight. So nah its not important at all to guards when they look for people's dash cam footage after an accident where people were seriously injured or got killed. Nah man they only do it for a laugh.

Grow the fk up, will you?

The J Stands for Jay

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120900496#Comment_120900496

I've always wondered about those 4D plates. How are they moving through time?

The J Stands for Jay

77 turned into TT on an Audi

007 on an Aston Martin by including non regulation spacing