Attempting to reduce magazine capacity allowances

dalalada

My question had nothing to do with a person plugging or having the legal limit in the magazine. I am pretty sure everyone who values their licences has that done.

If asked on future FCA forms what the mag capacity of your pistol mag is, is it 5 or 10? Saying 5 would be a lie as i don’t know any magazine that’s made to 5 there mostly 10. Unless a plugged mag is considered a new mag according to that SI.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120684085#Comment_120684085

Mellor

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120683222#Comment_120683222

Apparently the form is being updated. I would literally just write on the form at this stage.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120684671#Comment_120684671

For an unrestricted pistol the capacity needs to be 5 or less. Whether that’s original or modified capacity is irrelevant.

Having a pistol mag with capacity of 10 is a breach of the license* so definitely don’t put that down.

*Unless it’s a restricted license obviously.

dalalada

Sums that up. Thanks for answering.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120685118#Comment_120685118

Can see how people will over look how important this will be for them in future. Dropping your our magazine capacity down without releasing and then your ammo being reduced by the PTB.

Mellor

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120685343#Comment_120685343

Can see how they have any cause to reduce ammo limits.

If I’m target shooting. I’ll be sending X rounds down range. Whether that’s via a 10 round mag or a 3 round mag is not going to drastically affect my total.

I could use a single shot sled and I’d still send the same number of rounds.

dalalada

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120685405#Comment_120685405

This is what we’re dealing with. Throw in moderator refusals and you got a party

lefthooker

I put in a sub at the start of May. A newer variant of the rifle I had, so same make model and calibre, just a different serial number.

There was no contact from the gardai during the processing but in their wisdom they decided my magazine fed rifle should now be single shot. 🤦‍♂️

BattleCorp

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120752388#Comment_120752388

A swift phone call to them is required methinks.

Gumbo

I applied for a pistol in May. Received licence with no reduction in round allowances.

Applied for and received 1000.

Edit. Just realised I’ve posted about ammo in possession rather than mag capacity. Apologies.

Grizzly 45

Got my Glock renewed recently.

Had a mag capacity of 18 down.[So they counted for a loaded chamber]. However, got on to the chief's office about it to inform them that the default for a restricted CF handgun is 20, because, legislation both Irish& EU and to put on notice that some of my mags have a plus 3 conversion to bring them up to mag capacity of 20 max and [b] I don't carry on a loaded chamber.

The best thing we can all do is if you have a detachable mag-loaded rifle, CF or rim is set this question to a default answer of 10.

Update.27/6.

Got a letter from them today to state they will reissue the liscense in due course.

dalalada

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120772000#Comment_120772000

good

Grizzly 45

Straight to the chief's office, as my FO is on leave. Dealt with his very competent secretary and explained the situation.

tonysopprano

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120774847#Comment_120774847

People should be mindful that the FO has ABSOLUTLY NO input in the granting/refusal of an application nor on any conditions attached. His/her only job is to make sure the application is filled out correctly and said details are input on PULSE system. In case of problems, asking a (usually) Garda to question the authority or decision of a senior officer (either 2 or 3 promoted grades) above him, is in itself questionable. Straight to the Super's or Chief Super's office (and if necessary, the District Court)and use the Firearm's Act as it is written.

The reason they keep getting away with making up their own rules, as they go along, is that they have brow beaten everyone into submission, in the don't rock the boat scenario. The longer you let them get away with it the more they will do it.

Grizzly 45

The only reason I went to the FO first is from experience in dealing with AGS. Any queries if it doesn't go thru their protocol and command structure is rejected.IOW everything must come from the bottom up,and if it isn't correct,it is kicked back to the local station to be corrected or queried. So IOW I needed my local lad to contact the CS office and "prime" them for a call from me to explain the situation, even while he was on vacation.[Sound man to do so]. Ringing the chief out of the blue would have the query kicked back to him to deal with when he came back.