I handed in my notice and will be starting a new job in a couple of weeks. Can I get job seekers?

JackieChang

I quit my job and will be starting in a new company soon.

It will be a 3 week gap in total.

I won't be getting any sort of salary this month other than being paid for a few days annual leave leftover from the old job.

Can i get job seekers benefit for these few weeks?

I have plenty of prsi contributions.

Kimbot

no, as you didnt get sacked there is a wait period of something like 12 weeks before you can apply.

baldbear

Apologies for hijacking.

Is there any circumstances where you hand in your notice and claim jobseekers allowance?

A close family member was in a role where they were treated like dirt. Mentally they have suffered and were treated appalling when a family member was terminally ill so they just handed in their notice.

When they leave this job they won't be able to claim anything? Or can they try?

growleaves

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120611174#Comment_120611174

If your family member was harassed out of employment then in theory they are eligible.

They will have to speak to the Jobseekers people and explain all this. Be sure to use the word 'harassment'.

Then its up to a bureaucrat to decide. I would hope that would be a 'yes'.

gipi

The general rule is that if a person voluntarily leaves work and deprives themselves of income, they can be disqualified from jobseeker payments for up to 9 weeks.

However, the circumstances are examined for each person who leaves a job and signs on, and the disqualification may not always be applied

Best bet for your family member is to apply, explain everything and see what happens

baldbear

Growleaves,gipi thanks for advice.

Will advise that and see what happens.

TooTired123

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120611174#Comment_120611174

The most simple solution to this is the most ignored.

If your family member was sufficiently stressed that they felt they’d no choice but to hand in their notice then their GP is probably quite agreeable to them being awarded Illness Benefit which is paid at the same rate and in which you are excluded from having to be available for work. Payable for2 years.

Iseedeadpixels

Do what I do and say my contract ended, they never check.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120630973#Comment_120630973

Yeah great advice to tell a lie to the DEASP that always ends well for everyone 🙄

Quitelife

Even if you resign from a job for no reason the worst that happens is you get nothing for 9 weeks and then you can get job seekers benefit to start with for 6/9 months depending on prsi contributions

OP, if the DEASP won’t give you a payment you can always try the community welfare.

They might be willing to offer a temporary payment, especially if you offer to pay them back afterwards.

Was in a similar situation last summer and they arranged a payment to keep me going for a few weeks.

Iseedeadpixels

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120630993#Comment_120630993

Doing it the last 15 years 🤷

TooTired123

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120631424#Comment_120631424

It must be great though to know that other people are going without so you can get money you’re not entitled too.

Iseedeadpixels

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120631546#Comment_120631546

Firstly people aren't going without money because I signed on your comment is just plant wrong! Secondly I've paid more than enough tax every year to go on the dole for a week or 2 every now and again thanks.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120631565#Comment_120631565

If that’s the case why do you think you need to lie about your reasons for signing on?

Iseedeadpixels

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120631709#Comment_120631709

Because of the 12 weeks mentioned above, I've only done it 3 times in 15 years, taking a 2-3 week break between new jobs, hardly the biggest criminal the social welfare has ever seen.

AndrewJRenko

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120631565#Comment_120631565

That's not how tax and social welfare works. It's not a savings account for you to dip into.

pleh

Just a little bit of fraud is still fraud. Even if you pay DEASP back they can still prosecute

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120631747#Comment_120631747

i didn’t say you were. But you’re still lying to the DEASP, committing fraud (like it or not) so that you can take a break between jobs.

Instead of defrauding the welfare why don’t you try and save some money to support you during a job gap, like most financially sensible adults do?

Just because you’ve decided it’s acceptable doesn’t make it so.

Iseedeadpixels

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120631857#Comment_120631857

I do have savings, it makes no difference, I either A) Lie and say my contract ran out or B) Go to the community officer and say I need help as I cant wait the 12 weeks.

One way or the other I'm getting the same money.

Iseedeadpixels

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120631842#Comment_120631842

If you think they will go after someone claiming the dole a little early you are deluded.

Iseedeadpixels

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120631816#Comment_120631816

Ah well 😎

You can try the community welfare officer for a transition payment

TooTired123

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120631565#Comment_120631565

Theres a budget allotted to SW every year in order to support people who cannot support themselves .

There isn’t a bottomless bucket of money which falls out of the sky.

The money comes from the PRSI that working people contribute, and from money that the state borrows which has to be paid back, with interest, eventually, by taxpayers.

SW have to decide how to divide up this money. They do their best to only give it to people who need it and are claiming it fairly.

There are people at home too sick to work getting €220 a week.

There are people at home 24/7 looking after a sick child getting not much more.

If people like you didn’t think it was ok to steal €220 every now and again from the pot of money then the Dept would be able to give these people more money. You are literally taking food out of their mouths.

If everyone decided that they could steal a couple of weeks dole every year then how would that work out?

So enjoy the money you stole from the widow with 3 kids or the man looking after his father with Alzheimer’s. I hope it keeps fine for you…

Despicable attitude, “I’ll have that money thank you, I feel like it, I’ll spend your money, everyone else can p1$$ off”

Greed doesn’t end well.

JackieChang

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120631040#Comment_120631040

Is the community payment means tested? I have lots of savings.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120633149#Comment_120633149

Yes . They wil want bank statements going back 3 months.

You obviously don't need the money from the public purse if you have lots of savings.

JackieChang

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120633204#Comment_120633204

But it's my money and I've paid into the system for years. Few hundred quid back would be very handy. I'm saving for a mortgage.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120633215#Comment_120633215

Community welfare services are for those who have no money and need it. You have money.

JackieChang

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120633284#Comment_120633284

Well I'll go to the dole then and just tell them I've been laid off.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120633410#Comment_120633410

You obviously don't realise how long the processing time is for payments to be set up 😄.

Good luck

radiotrickster

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120633410#Comment_120633410

Why did you quit your job three weeks before your start date? Because you wanted to be paid to take three weeks off?

It’s not “your money.” It’s the state’s money to distribute as they see fit. You’re trying to get away with fraud here, OP.

CramCycle

First of all I think it was a bad decision handing in your notice to give you a 3 week break. Second of all, if you walk in and say you have been laid off, finished your contract, whatever, unless its a regular occurrence, you will get your dole. People can do all the grandstanding they want here but other that me thinking the OP didn't think it through, and not realising they should hand in their notice to line up with the new job, it is in the grand scheme of things, not actually a big deal and done by loads of people every year. I'd sooner get a full weeks pay for a few weeks and then only take a few days off as the dole is enough to survive but I want more than that, but each to their own.

TooTired123

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120633215#Comment_120633215

Stealing from poor people is funny hur hur hur😁🤡🤡🤡

JackieChang

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120633534#Comment_120633534

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120633482#Comment_120633482

I had holidays abroad planned for two of those weeks that's why.

glut22

Sorry off topic, if contract is ending can you claim parents benefit for when job finishes and then job seekers straight after?

DownByTheGarden

Myself and my wife are leaving our jobs in about 6 weeks. We are just taking a year or two off. Totally sick of the tax we are paying working and the 80 or so hours we get back to ourselves will be great after so many years of hard work.

We did discover that there may be issues getting the dole, so we checked and if you go to your GP and tell them you are very stressed out at work and cant handle it anymore then they will certiofy you and you can quit your job and take that cert to the social welfare officer. you could if you wanted even just stay working but go on sick leave for an extended amount of time with that.

The route we decided to talk was to speak to our employers and ask to be let go with no redundancy as we didnt want to call in sick for months and then leave. Employers both agree so that is what is happening that is whats happening.

CramCycle

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120633854#Comment_120633854

Then you book your holidays from work for those two weeks, loads of people leaving do this and use up your holiday pay. Last job I left I hadn't taken any holidays, so I gave about 2 months notice but the last 3 weeks I was on holiday.

Anyway, like I said, despite the morally righteous brigade, yes it's wrong but you will get away with it because in the grand scheme of things, it's fairly minor stuff. Comically though, if you are on holiday, you won't be able to pick up so this is all mute.

Iseedeadpixels

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120632465#Comment_120632465

Lmao that last line boards.ie at its finest!! Unemployment at a record low nobody is going without money.

JackieChang

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120633878#Comment_120633878

I think i read your post on Reddit as well. Best of luck!

JackieChang

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120634047#Comment_120634047

Literally mugging them on the street and leaving them starving.

TooTired123

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120634047#Comment_120634047

”I know you are caring for your disabled child 24/7 for only €236 a week, and if people like me weren’t stealing €220 here and there so I can have a few weeks free in between jobs every now and again that you’d possibly be able to get more. But honestly, I don’t give a f**k”.

TooTired123

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120634059#Comment_120634059

“I’m going to help myself to money that should be going to carers and sick people but I’m not going to let you say that I’m stealing it from them.”

Iseedeadpixels

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120634073#Comment_120634073

Omg please keep them coming you're making my day hahahahaha

Yup all me, not the hairdressers getting paid to the hand and claiming unemployment, extra child benefit, council houses etc Not the guys and gals who refuse to work or fake illness, nope all me.

Iseedeadpixels

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120634059#Comment_120634059

This site never ceases to amaze me 🤣

DownByTheGarden

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120634056#Comment_120634056

Wasnt me on reddit. I did post here during the week though. Never used reddit. But to be honest im not the only person with the same idea. Tax is just too high now. Its just not worth working anymore.

TooTired123

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120634120#Comment_120634120

“These other people over here are also stealing so that means it’s ok for me to steal too”.

You forgot to mention the politicians and the bankers…still time to go back and edit your post…

TooTired123

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120633410#Comment_120633410

The SW office send a form to your previous employer asking them the circumstances of your leaving.

Sconsey

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120634047#Comment_120634047

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120634059#Comment_120634059

Keep telling yourselves whatever you need to try to justify your fraud.

DownByTheGarden

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120634364#Comment_120634364

If you have paid huge amounts of PRSI and tax over the years, in my case enough to keep the guts of 10 people on the dole every month for about 20 years, then going on the dole for a for a while is more like, taking back control :), than fraud as far as I am concerned.

Allinall

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120634488#Comment_120634488

"As far as you're concerned" is irrelevant.

It's fraud.