Rory Gallagher - A dismissed case that was dealt with and brought to attention? Mod Note in OP

Ragwort and Stones

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120613562#Comment_120613562

Ewan McKenna! He's a national joke.

mobby

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120614639#Comment_120614639

He sure is.

It speaks volumes about the state of justice in Ireland when a vindictive spouse with a formidable sense of victimhood - supported by the entire industry of perpetual victimhood and perpetual whinge that is women's rights - can destroy a man's reputation and livelihood.

The lynch mob is alive and well, and so much for courts, due process and innocent until proven guilty in Ireland in 2023. And nobody bats an eyelid that these pillars of justice and fairness are railroaded by the mob. Some day the mob's victim could be your son, your brother, your Dad. Has anybody thought of that? Bad, evil shít does not just happen "other people", and people really need to appreciate how their own life can take a turn and get a taste of that evil. There are many, many cases where there is smoke without fire - as anybody familiar with the experience of Maurice McCabe should be able to acknowledge, and McCabe's case is only extraordinary because he refused to give up.

Anybody who has any doubt whatsoever that false accusations against men of sexual, physical and emotional crimes are widespread in family law cases could get in touch with Men's Aid, which, unlike Women's Aid, does not have the funding from the Irish State to fund peer support groups and helplines for all the men who finally get the courage to knock on their door. The destruction is extraordinary and lifelong. There really is nothing like the lifelong destruction which false allegations lead to, from losing one's home to losing one's reputation in one's community to having one's children alienated from you by your faux-"victim" ex wife. The fact that there is absolutely no criminal prosecutions or names mentioned when a woman is found guilty of false allegations ensures false allegations will continue to be a zero-risk/high-reward tactic from women across Ireland. It's a no brainer for all these women, and their lawyers: levy a false allegation, or lose control of the kids and family home. This epidemic of false allegations without penalty are one of the many outrages facing men in the family courts which Helen McEntee as Minister for Justice still refuses to tackle. Technically, of course, these allegations are in the criminal courts with the idea being that if criminal allegations of abuse are levelled against fathers, the women will keep them out of the family home and by the time the criminal allegations go through the criminal courts it will be years and only after than can the family law case start to decide who controls the kids and home - and because the women, due to making false allegations, are in the home for years judges tend to leave them there and in effect reward them for their evil allegations. Oh, and they can play the victim because the findings which clear the father of all the abuse are all kept secret! Kangaroo courts in this banana republic that is Ireland.

Meanwhile, Ireland remains full to the brim of naive, ignorant, ignorant, ignorant people who believe women do not do this on a large scale across this island. That women are somehow whiter than white, despite the glaring reality that control of the children and family home is what is at stake. In the vast, vast majority of family law cases, women are not victims; they are the perpetrators who are using the prejudices of society to deny good fathers equal rights to their children and to a family home of their own. There are evil, vindictive, malignant women out there and it's well past time that society on this island stopped denying the nastiness so many, if not most, women go to when control of the children and family home is at stake. All is justified, it seems! And there is an entire so-called women's rights industry, funded by the Irish taxpayer, which coaches women on what to say or do to get control of the children and family home. Not to mention journalists like Kitty Holland in The Irish Times who are simply mouthpieces for Women's Aid. Again, someday it could be your son, your brother, or your Dad who is the victim of this gender discrimination in Irish family law courts.

Seth Brundle

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120760206#Comment_120760206

Do you feel better after posting that Rory?

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120609936#Comment_120609936

It's important to note if this happened in connection with a family law case, as opposed to a criminal law case, she would not be named. Which means, you guessed it, she can fire all sorts of allegations against him without being named when the judge finds they are lies - such as in this case: https://www.irishtimes.com/news/crime-and-law/courts/high-court/woman-s-claims-of-rape-sex-assault-against-husband-not-the-truth-judge-finds-1.4836056

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120760226#Comment_120760226

If you've got a problem with what is said, say it. False allegations and perpetrators-posing-as-victims are not something remote from many people who have been, and are, on the receiving end of the "I believe her!" mob and their faux victimhood.

Seth Brundle

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120760251#Comment_120760251

You appear to have a massive chip on your shoulder and it might be best not to debate it but to let everyone reading the thread see it for themselves!

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120760382#Comment_120760382

Yes, as everybody else in history who has had issues with one group being singled out and discriminated against has also evidently had a 'chip on their shoulder'. Oh, if only we could be smug, head-in-the-sand types who turn a blind eye to injustice, be it in industrial schools, Magdalene laundries, or the family courts today. Just pretend it's not happening, until some man you know is on the wrong side of a marital breakdown facing all this "poor women" faux-victimhood and its accompanying prejudices and false allegations.

Everybody should have the right to due process and a fair trial under an impartial legal system. This did not happen here, and it needs to be called out - no matter how smug you think you are.

blanch152

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120760887#Comment_120760887

It is not quite as simple as that, and in the particular case of this thread, it is definitely not simple.

There is a criminal level of proof and there is a civil level of proof. Gallagher is clearly not a criminal as he was not convicted.

However, and this has been pointed out a few times in this thread, he did not say that she was lying. Neither did he deny her specific allegations. Why did he take this course of action? Impossible to know, but there are many who will suspect and surmise that he was afraid of civil litigation. In criminal trials you have to be found guilty beyond a reasonable doubt, whereas in civil trials, the test is on the balance of probabilities.

So it is certainly true that there was sufficient reasonable doubt to ensure that Gallagher walked away but that doesn't mean that on the balance of probabilities, he didn't do it.

Gusser09

Rory's decision to not come out and issue a full denial of physically abusing his wife is telling. Literally the silence is deafening. He is not a criminal and has not been convicted of any crime. Why he isn't denying the allegations is astonishing. He doesn't have to deny it either. That's his prerogative. But don't expect a pathway back to the GAA management and public acceptance without addressing the horrific allegations.

keeponhurling

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120773777#Comment_120773777

How could silence be literally deafening ?

dxhound2005

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-northern-ireland-66606139

"Ulster GAA has asked an independent panel to investigate claims made by the estranged wife of a former Derry senior men's Gaelic football manager."

amdublin

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120774016#Comment_120774016

You've never heard that phrase before? It is very common...

Meaning:

https://www.britannica.com/dictionary/deafening#:~:text=%E2%97%8A%20If%20there%20is%20a,speech%20that%20is%20very%20noticeable.

evolvingtipperary101

The report is completed but not yet public.

Ulster GAA to consider findings of independent report into domestic abuse allegations made against Rory Gallagher | Independent.ie

evolvingtipperary101

Former Derry manager Rory Gallagher’s barring from GAA activity has been lifted by the Disputes Resolution Authority (DRA).

The independent arbitration body found in the Fermanagh native’s favour against the Ulster Council’s judgement, which stopped him from coaching teams.

Gusser09

I'd like think no club or county will ever touch this guy again. Sadly I think there are plenty of morally bankrupt people in the GAA.

celt262

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121827477#Comment_121827477

Sure Banty had him involved with Corduff last year while he was banned.

evolvingtipperary101

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121827661#Comment_121827661

Banty making the type of money that puts him above the law now...

'Banty' McEnaney and 14 family members paid over €130m to house refugees (businessplus.ie)

Gusser09

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121827661#Comment_121827661

Mod snip

charlie14

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121827477#Comment_121827477

I cannot see any county board ever offering him a job, and while a few club officials might be tempted I cannot see their communities being happy with their club being associated with him.

Outside club managers or their assistants come with hefty financial outlays. Practically all of it under the counter payments. Their are only really two ways for clubs to do that. Siphoning off cash from fund raising activities in their communities, or cash sponsorship from a local firm. I doubt many club members or supporters would be happy knowing their contributions to fund raising activities were going to Gallagher, or any company would see it a commercial advantage by being associated with him.