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    #32
    JayBee66
    Registered Users Posts: 290 ✭✭JayBee66


    Is the site slow? I hadn't noticed.

    If it aint broke, don't fix it.



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    #33
    AMKC
    Registered Users Posts: 15,643 ✭✭✭✭AMKC
    Ms


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120573146#Comment_120573146

    Yes it can take an age to load sometimes. Lucky you.

    Live long and Prosper

    Peace and long life.



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    #34
    Spear
    Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Help & Feedback Category Moderators Posts: 25,096 CMod ✭✭✭✭Spear


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120573146#Comment_120573146

    I personally never saw any speed issues either, but there's a small fraction who've reported them since the move. It's not as simple as someone connecting to the Vanilla server in Canada. There's also a Cloudflare layer in front of that, to add further complexity and an extra potential source of slowdown. Moving it to Europe helps to shorten then part too.



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    #35
    Jim_Hodge
    Registered Users Posts: 10,484 ✭✭✭✭Jim_Hodge


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120573174#Comment_120573174

    I've never found it in the least bit slow.

    I'm amazed there's anybody left using the site when you read all the moaning in this thread.



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    #36
    JayBee66
    Registered Users Posts: 290 ✭✭JayBee66


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120573174#Comment_120573174

    I'm with the ancestors (sticks to you) but have 500MB fibre. Is it only ADSL users on ~2MB that report slow loading?



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    #37
    Jim_Hodge
    Registered Users Posts: 10,484 ✭✭✭✭Jim_Hodge


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120573244#Comment_120573244

    Not slow for us and we haven't fibre at all.



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    #38
    JDxtra
    Registered Users Posts: 5,871 ✭✭✭JDxtra


    Many casual users may not understand what the original post here is about. Can it be edited to explain in one line that there is a site migration on X date and what the expected outage is? More details below then for those interested.

    In terms of the migration itself, is it possible to do a dry run? Then you’ll know how long it would take and iron out any kinks in the process.

    Post edited by JDxtra on


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    #39
    Boards.ie: Mike
    Boards.ie Employee Posts: 973 ✭✭✭✭✭Boards.ie: Mike


    Good morning all,

    I'm glad that so many of you have had a chance to read the OP.

    I would like to add here that this is not a major site redevelopment or another migration. This is simply a move to a server that is much closer to home. There will not be any changes to the layout, settings, appearance or functionality of the site. This is merely a change to the European AMS server. Any other issues that have been raised here have already been addressed in other threads and are all currently being worked on. Lets keep things civil and on point here please.

    The idea behind the move is as I said. To increase usability and performance. There are many reports coming to us about site speed every single week. So we understand that it is a major issue for some users. That is why we decided to make the move when the option became available to use. This is meant to be a move to something better, a boost in positivity. Boards.ie has been around for a very long time, as have huge numbers of users. We are constantly trying to improve on what we have here so that it remains a place for users to come to and enjoy well into the future.

    I added detail to the OP in the interest of transparency. The fact is there will be negligible changes that will need to be made a couple of words in a document perhaps. The current use of the YUL1 Canandian server ensured that all rules and regulations were complied with. So "The Plan" that is causing such concern need not worry anyone. Privacy and Data Protection will remain a top priority as it always has here.



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    #40
    Glaceon
    Registered Users Posts: 2,018 ✭✭✭Glaceon


    AMS is Amsterdam I assume?



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    #41
    Spear
    Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Help & Feedback Category Moderators Posts: 25,096 CMod ✭✭✭✭Spear


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120573540#Comment_120573540

    Yes. There's a whole standard for naming data centres after their closest airport code, and Schiphol is AMS.



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    #42
    heavydawson
    Registered Users Posts: 1,152 ✭✭✭heavydawson



    Screenshot 2023-05-09 102052.png

    For those of you wondering about speeds. I have an FTTH connection, and the main page takes ~ 750ms -> 1200ms to load (slow by modern standards). All of the javascript/css is well-cached via CDN, and loads much faster (because it doesn't change that often), around 30ms.



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    #43
    Boards.ie: Mike
    Boards.ie Employee Posts: 973 ✭✭✭✭✭Boards.ie: Mike


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120573540#Comment_120573540


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120573584#Comment_120573584

    Yes. Currently on YUL Montreal server.



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    #44
    degsie
    Registered Users Posts: 8,740 ✭✭✭degsie


    Hope there is a rollback plan!



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    #45
    TaurenDruid
    Registered Users Posts: 4,025 ✭✭✭TaurenDruid


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120572815#Comment_120572815

    First time the Burkes would have won anything since yer man won a school debating competition!



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    #46
    Padre_Pio
    Registered Users Posts: 4,939 ✭✭✭Padre_Pio


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120573511#Comment_120573511

    "This is simply a move to a server that is much closer to home. There will not be any changes to the layout, settings, appearance or functionality of the site."


    Pity...



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    #47
    Escapees
    Registered Users Posts: 593 ✭✭✭Escapees


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120574220#Comment_120574220

    Well, no 'intended' changes I would think. But on a more important note, I think the boards.ie folk behind the scenes really need to put a time or range of time on the expected site outage. The vagueness on stuff like this and the lack of apparent risk management or contingency planning is worrying. Instead, the focus in the announcement seems to be on setting the service provider up as the fall guy should anything go wrong. Sure, it might all go swimmingly well, but at least take responsibility for the move and be planning for the worst etc.


    Edit: Sorry, I see now the original announcement has been updated re: the outage time etc.



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    #48
    Boards.ie: Mike
    Boards.ie Employee Posts: 973 ✭✭✭✭✭Boards.ie: Mike


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120574357#Comment_120574357

    We are not looking for a fall out guy. This is not a game of pass the parcel with the blame bomb!

    This switch is not controlled by our side. It is a joint collaboration between Boards.ie and its database and Vanilla/HigherLogic, their tech team are overseeing the switch. We have not yet received a minute by minute timeline of the switchover From Vanilla/HigherLogic Tech team. As I said before when updates are sent our way I will post them here. Once again my goal is absolute transparency on this.



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    #49
    Quantum Erasure
    Registered Users Posts: 8,207 ✭✭✭Quantum Erasure


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120573182#Comment_120573182

    I've noticed 'skimlinks' seems to be slowing it down sometimes



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    #50
    GreeBo
    Registered Users Posts: 27,073 ✭✭✭✭GreeBo


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120573511#Comment_120573511

    Its a data center migration, which, to anyone who has done one before, is certainly not a trivial exercise. If it was me I wouldn't be down playing its potential for impact.

    Are Vanilla already hosting live sites from this AMS DC?

    Have we tried a background migration and confirmed it all works before we actually switch the live site?



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    #51
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    Let’s really slow it right down and put it accessible only via a tor network. One could always go off and make a cup of tea as it loads up. 😂

    Tbh I’ve not noticed it being overly slow, but on a fast running thread like Liveline (on good days) a bit of speed up would be welcome.



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    #52
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120575173#Comment_120575173
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    Renting extra space on a server would involve more moola. Let’s just fly it 💸

    Maybe they are actually trialling the migration, just as the last migration was tested. I’ll get my coat now 🤣



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    #53
    Akrasia
    Registered Users Posts: 22,242 ✭✭✭✭Akrasia


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120571331#Comment_120571331

    They're taking this

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    Putting it on a this

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    And flying it from Manitoba to a centra in Athlone

    Nothing could possibly go wrong, unless they forget that American plugs are different or the server gets jet lagged



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    #54
    Overheal
    Registered Users Posts: 81,825 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    Is the move happening at the moment? Never before seen latencies when editing posts. Even seen a double edit open on a post when I tried to refresh a page.



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    #55
    Hotblack Desiato
    Registered Users Posts: 34,030 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    Yeah getting lots of errors even when trying to thank a post.

    Life ain't always empty.



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    #56
    odyssey06
    Registered Users Posts: 28,106 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120576481#Comment_120576481

    Cant handle Eurovision live chat

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



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    #57
    Overheal
    Registered Users Posts: 81,825 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    Yeah it's really falling apart now. Hold on tight

    image.png

    402s, 505s, etc. all them fancy internet **** up numbers.



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    #58
    kippy
    Registered Users Posts: 18,421 ✭✭✭✭kippy


    Would be interesting to know some of the infrastructure in the background for the geeks amongst us, amount of servers, database size etc etc. But I digress.

    Just to echo what others have said here in the past while, site appears not to load as it should every time, 500 errors, refresh appears to sort it for a while then happens again as you load another page etc.



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    #59
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120576392#Comment_120576392

    It seems to have all started, seeing a lot of white phone screen and error messages.



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    #60
    Seth Brundle
    Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 38,972 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120576815#Comment_120576815

    During the Vanilla migration, the database was upgraded to MS Access 2000.



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    #61
    unkel
    Registered Users Posts: 64,891 ✭✭✭✭unkel


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120576861#Comment_120576861

    From FoxPro 2.6a? 😂



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