Civil Service Question

Riskymove

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120557381#Comment_120557381

The link was posted above but for clarity:

Doctor/dentist/hospital appointments

If you are absent due to attending a doctor/dental/hospital appointment for either a full day or a half-day (either morning or afternoon), this is recorded as sick absence.

If you have attended work before or after the appointment, you can claim time for a sick absence on the following basis:

Morning appointment

If you attend a health appointment in the morning without clocking before 12.30pm, you must claim this as a half day’s sick leave.

If you have attended for a reasonable time (i.e. around one hour) up to 12.30pm, you will receive core time credit of morning attendance has been recorded before or after the absence in question. You must also be clocked in by 1.30 pm to reclaim the credit.

Afternoon appointment

If you attend a health appointment in the afternoon without clocking during the afternoon (up to 5.00pm), you must claim this as a half day’s sick leave.

However, core time credit until 4.00 p.m. will be given provided a reasonable (i.e. around one hour) period of afternoon attendance has been recorded prior to or after the absence in question. You must be clocked in until at least 1.15 pm in order to reclaim the credit.

All-day appointment

If you do not attend work at all during the day of a health appointment, then this is classed as one full day of sick leave. Your manager must report it to the NSSO via their HR self-service.

doc22

Meh, the pettyness . The sick leave has gone through and the reality is the manager isn't undoing it after the fact. Most would be happy to use sick leave than flexi or annual leave. Accept the situation and move on.

Murt10

So a woman attending pre or ante natal appointment is sick. I never knew that.

And if I go to a hospital for a test (bloods etc or maybe a routine check on a previous illness) then I'm automatically sick. Nobody can say that I'm sick without seeing the results of the test.

I'd be asking whoever was saying that I was sick what their medical qualifications were and when had they qualified as a Dr.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120557480#Comment_120557480

Note that none of this is ever mentioned, when sick leave levels are being reported in the media.

jaffa20

For a medical appointment, is it not just a correction on the clock if you cannot organise outside working hours?

caviardreams

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120562831#Comment_120562831

Seriously?

There are two states: fit for work and unfit for work

If unfit for work, it is sick leave. End of.

If you are fit for work and not in work, you need to use annual (other leave) if not at work during the required time, otherwise you are AWOL. The CS show flexibility on this for medical appointments and allow them as sick leave (even if you may be ft for work technically but just unavailable due to an appointment or whatever). Can't believe people are complaining about having the benefit of being able to use sick leave rather than annual leave for a medical appointment.

Nigel Fairservice

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120589764#Comment_120589764

Yes, you just get core time credit.

Hotblack Desiato

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120589764#Comment_120589764

It is, if your workplace's clock isn't integrated with NSSO's systems.

Where I work, doctor/hospital or dentist appointments are just credited on the local flexi clock, NSSO never involved and not recorded as sick leave. You are expected to attend before/after the appointment as soon as possible though, so if it only takes an hour to go to the local GP for a blood sample you're not supposed to claim a half day.

Long may this commonsense approach continue (in other words, keeping the blasted NSSO very far away)

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120592252#Comment_120592252

If I can't schedule appointments for before or after core time, then I prefer to use leave for appointments, as sick leave is not without its limits, and adds up quickly.

Number of days and number of absences are all counted for sick leave purposes.

I only use sick leave when I am actually unfit for work.