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Should Ireland ditch daylight savings regardless of what the UK and NI do?

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  • Registered Users Posts: 11,129 ✭✭✭✭the_amazing_raisin


    The government doesn't hold referendums unless it's legally forced to or unless they're confident they'll win.

    You might have noticed that the past few referendums were on topics where there was strong public support for changing the constitution


    So what's the point in having a referendum if there's already clear public support behind one side of the argument?

    There's other tools the government can use to determine what the population wants, including just proposing some legislation and seeing how many people complain about it

    "The internet never fails to misremember" - Sebastian Ruiz, aka Frost



  • Registered Users Posts: 10,843 ✭✭✭✭Furze99


    "So what's the point in having a referendum if there's already clear public support behind one side of the argument?"

    That's exactly the point. An opinion poll survey here & there does not constitute 'clear public support'. The matter would have to be carefully considered.



  • Registered Users Posts: 20,899 ✭✭✭✭dxhound2005


    Would be a Constitutional referendum, or an Ordinary referendum? I think our time zone is not in the Constitution? There has never been an Ordinary one. Other very important things, like whether Income Tax should be abolished, cannot be put to Constitutional referendum. You also wrote about an "advisory referendum", but there is no such thing in law.

    Constitutional Referendum

    Article 46 of the Constitution sets out the rules for how the Constitution can be amended. Article 47 sets out the basic rules for referendums. A body of legislation, including a series of Referendum Acts, governs how they operate.

    For a constitutional referendum, a Bill is first introduced in the Dáil, setting out the wording of the proposed amendment. If both the Dáil and the Seanad pass the Bill, the Minister for Housing, Local Government and Heritage makes an order specifying the polling day for the referendum.

    Ordinary Referendum

    An ordinary referendum is one that does not relate to amending Bunreacht na hÉireann (the Irish Constitution). To date no ordinary referendum has ever been held.

    An ordinary referendum would take place if the President received a joint petition from both houses of the Oireachtas. The petition would say that a proposed Bill was of such national importance that the people of Ireland should decide whether it became law.

    The joint petition must be passed by the majority of the members of the Seanad and one-third of the members of the Dáil. When the President receives the petition, they must consult the Council of State. If the President agrees that the proposal is of such national importance they will refuse to sign the Bill until a referendum has been held.

    The referendum must be held within 18 months of the President's decision not to sign the Bill.



  • Registered Users Posts: 8,084 ✭✭✭saabsaab


    No need for any referendum it's already on the EU books. It also makes sense to abolish this outdated practics.



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