New grant for lime

irishguy19772

Saw a new grant for liming fields. We are in acres and have BISS and Anc payments, so hoping I am correct in that I am eligible.

HAve fields with a lot of heavy rushes. Would it be worth liming these fields (get the odd bit of fertiliser) but been overstocked and rushes have taken over. Wet enough so would liming and topping around May be a good plan.

zetor 4911

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058288574/new-grant-for-lime

Need soil sample results showing that lime is needed.

Say my name

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120366872#Comment_120366872

More schemes to find out where the peat soil is..🤣

ruwithme

Regrettable move. Will only increase the cost of lime to everyone. It wasn't expensive to begin with & most know the Value of it to soil.

Appeasing greens & looking for something to put on the flyers to farmers & joe public at next election

€8 million, suppose there's no money for umpteen other things more worthy & needed.

irishguy19772

Think you only need soil sample results if it is part of the eco scheme. The new scheme launched today doesn't need this

Donald Trump

not available to anyone over 170kg even if you export to bring it under.

bogman_bass

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120367838#Comment_120367838

I think you need soil results take. Within the last 5 years to prove a need for lime

irishguy19772

https://m.independent.ie/business/farming/schemes/new-16t-grant-for-spreading-lime-announced-42387623.html

grange mac

Lime to west Cork was 23 per ton last Sept.... Now 30 per ton.... As usual anything grant aided just shoots up in price 🙄🙄

farawaygrass

paid €27 a ton spread a couple of weeks ago. He said the price was due to go up the following week, so if it goes up again because of the grant that’s a fair hike.

as someone above said, it’s not rewarding the farmer who spread lime regularly and kept the soul in good health. Government intervention in most areas isn’t usually a good idea.

bogman_bass

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120368557#Comment_120368557

To be fair lime went up this past year without a grant like everything else.

theprice relitive to Fertilizer probably had a bigger influence

K.G.

Can someone explain hy derogztion farmers are excluded

Say my name

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120368981#Comment_120368981

Because the dept already have their soil sample reports and it's already part of the dero to spread lime.

But the main reason is the soil samples. The 8m will go further without them in it.

Plus we've the weakest farm lobby to confront the dept since the foundation of the state. The lobby are a bag of cats pulling on each other with the dept grinning.

Wildsurfer

Because as derogation farmers we must spread it as part of our nutrients plan so they already have us in the net.

Donald Trump

General principle is that they don't give grants for something that you are already obliged to have in place.

Occasionally they can deviate from this. One example was that when they brought people under mandatory LESS a few years ago, there was a years grace period under which you could still apply for equipment under TAMS

fastrac

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120368562#Comment_120368562

At least the farmer who has the lime out won't be caught for big amounts of dear grant lime Maintaining won't break anyone.The soil testing is the big gain for the dept down the road.

148multi

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120369189#Comment_120369189

I suspect that the Dept may control the representative group's by carrot and stick, it's all covered under the right of inspection.

To get around this we'd need professional people running the farm organisations with no direct hand in the industry, but this could could cause as many problems as it would solve.

If they get soil samples of all peat based grassland for €16 a ton of lime, might be great value, while keeping an eye on fert use also.

After all said I think it's very good idea.

Jb1989

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120374187#Comment_120374187

They got a lot of results from the soil sampling scheme this time last year already.

148multi

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120374371#Comment_120374371

I suspected that may have been the idea, they'll get the info one way or another.

peterofthebr

If one applies for say 60 t in the grant application and some issue later on means you ended up only spreading 30t .. does anyone know if that will cause an issue when your submitting invoices for less then you origionally applied for (applying less then you previously said on the application)?

Thanks

Sami23

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120403953#Comment_120403953

I doubt there would be any issue spreading less than planned

Siamsa Sessions

Any update on when approvals for this might be sent out?

I've a few acres to reseed and I'd like to get lime on it in the coming weeks, but I'm assuming you can't claim in arrears for this scheme.

Sami23

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120486596#Comment_120486596

Spread away - once you've applied you can spread away and claim for it later in the year when the system is up and running.

Sami23

Who do people find best for soil tests - IAS, FBA, Southern Scientific etc.

Are any of them more accurate than the other or any to be avoided ?

Robson99

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120489722#Comment_120489722

Not sure which are the best / most accurate, however have seen a varience between the results from different labs

Pinsnbushings

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120489716#Comment_120489716

Oversubscribed to the tune of 60 million euros, so be careful not to budget on getting the grant money later.

Sami23

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120546931#Comment_120546931

100% - everyone will probably only get paid for 10 ton this year

Pinsnbushings

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120547426#Comment_120547426

Has there been any confirmation letters sent out yet telling people what they were approved for?..I heard nothing anyway.

Sami23

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120547511#Comment_120547511

Don't think so

Siamsa Sessions

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120547734#Comment_120547734

They’re making it up as they go along so who knows what’ll happen next 😀

farawaygrass

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120546931#Comment_120546931

a lot of schemes are over subscribed but are never actually fully drawn down by the farmer. If I was a betting man I’d wager anyone who applies for the grant will get the full amount