You've been looking in the wrong direction, the dangers are coming from the Left - read OP

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120845812#Comment_120845812

I can only speak for myself. I consider the primary threats from the far-left, in exactly the same way that we primarily focus on the far-right in the "threats from the right" thread. It would be quite frankly ridiculous to lump the centre-left with the far-left, as if the threat from each is somehow the same. That's because it isn't the same.

Both centre-left and centre-right are aghast at both extremes, and both extremes do pose a threat to society in various forms. Not just in terms of violence, but threats to society and culture too.

I would add that there are many on the centre-left who are afraid to speak up against the far-left, such is the backlash that they may well receive. Their real opinions are kept behind closed doors whilst they turn the other way about some of what the far-left get up to.

Annasopra

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120845865#Comment_120845865

You are presenting Richard Dawkins comely maiden stereotyping of cis women in this discussion as some sort of gotcha of far left extremism. Very bizarre.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120845906#Comment_120845906

Not really.

I referenced Dawkins' take on what happened with Sarah Jane Baker and the incitement to violence comments at Trans Pride. I happen to agree with his assessment of that episode of far-left extremism that happened in London.

Lots of time is being invested on this thread condemning me or Dawkins or other sources, yet we see next to no worthwhile criticism of what Baker said at the event or how the audience responded.

That imbalance and focus on me rather than the actual threat from the left, speaks volumes.

Annasopra

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120844160#Comment_120844160

What about Countess Markievicz? Apparently with her guns she's now not a real woman based on Richard Dawkins thesis. Someone better tell the TERF group using her name.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120845932#Comment_120845932

Behind all the whataboutery, what we're really seeing in many circles is a subtle defence of what Sarah Jane Baker said at the event.

It's unpopular to say in public, so many activists keep it under wraps. Many of them agree with Baker. After all, Baker received a rapturous applause.

Annasopra

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120845920#Comment_120845920

I don't think anyone is condemning Richard Dawkins. I would it see it as ridiculing Richard Dawkins bizarre comely maidens stereotyping of women because its untrue absurd nonsense.

Overheal

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120845046#Comment_120845046

We're discussing threats from the left -- not whataboutery with nutjob pastors in the United States.

im discussing a claim made in a tweet you dumped here. I am unclear why you think this was unfair of me to do.

Annasopra

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120845969#Comment_120845969

Noone here has stated they support Baker's view. Everyone disagreeing with you said they don't. This is hilarious really to accuse people of support for something that noone said they support.

Overheal

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120845920#Comment_120845920

Again it is unclear you have even referenced a Richard Dawkins, anyone can pay $8/no and pretend to be a Richard Dawkins, the owner of Twitter removed any meaningful verification, or even the ability of users without Twitter accounts to view Twitter profiles recently. I’m unclear why you keep insisting this person is Richard Dawkins or that their mere opinions hold any special water.

TomTomTim

Nice to see the police going after potential terrorists

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12294651/Trans-activist-told-crowd-punch-TERFs-face-arrested-incitement-violence.html

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120846006#Comment_120846006

You keep saying that "nobody" supports it.

We heard the reaction from the audience; it was considered an acceptable thing to say, something to celebrate. That's not "nobody".

• We've also seen half a decade of death threats and rape threats made against JK Rowling, for the crime of saying nothing wrong.
• Another gender critical speaker, Julie Bindel, was physically attacked by a trans activist.
• Kellie-Jay Keen Minshull was almost killed in New Zealand by a mob of trans activists.
• A 60-year old woman was punched in the face by a trans activist for expressing gender critical views in Hyde Park.

I could go on and on and on, but you must by now see a theme running through the above -- and it's violence against women.

Quite a lot of people clearly support violence against women for "having the wrong opinions" about protecting their spaces and sport, no matter how many times you claim that "nobody" does.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120846044#Comment_120846044

Fantastic news.

What an utterly awful person. The police should throw that scum back into a cell.

Overheal

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120846044#Comment_120846044

Probably to be thrown out on clear first amendment grounds especially as no violence was actually incited.

By contrast a presidential candidate told his rally goers to knock the crap out of people, punch them etc. and promised to pay their legal fees if they did so. In some cases, this indeed happened (not the paying of legal fees but violence quickly incited) This person was never called up on any incitement charges.

TomTomTim

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120846070#Comment_120846070

Never mind what they said either, who in the world think it's wise to have an attempted murder as a speaker at an event for your movement?

Overheal

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120846062#Comment_120846062

You JUST complained about whataboutery 🤣

One eyed Jack

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120845865#Comment_120845865

I can only speak for myself.

And then you go on to speak for everyone else. Previously I thought you just weren’t aware of it and ‘twas funny. But when you make it so obvious, kinda takes the fun out of it.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120846083#Comment_120846083

And after the event, Trans Pride released a statement that defended Baker and their comments.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120845865#Comment_120845865

Yeah, so you've said - but the links in your posts say the opposite.

Annasopra

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120846062#Comment_120846062

If you are going to quote me don't make things up I didn't say

Annasopra

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120846078#Comment_120846078

Ye wha? There's no first Amendment in Europe

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120846087#Comment_120846087

They are all examples of far-left extremist violence.

One eyed Jack

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120846083#Comment_120846083

Depends on the event 😂

Overheal

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120846101#Comment_120846101

Oh my bad. Wasn’t aware this wasn’t in the US. That’s how little regard I had for this tweet dump I must admit. Not like clicking on the tweet would have helped me anyway, Twitter recently made it a tossup of a video or tweet could even be fully read without an account. Again though that headline in the “Dawkins” tweet however, demonstrably bullshit.

Overheal

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120845969#Comment_120845969

It's unpopular to say in public, so many activists keep it under wraps.

how many have you interviewed intimately outside of the public view to verify this claim?

Overheal

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120846103#Comment_120846103

Does this mean you’ve completely forgotten, moved on, “Squirrel!”’d away your own concerns about that school curriculum I thought we were still going to discuss that once you figured out your technical issues. You seemed plenty concerned about it at the time - kinda like how you are performing being concerned right now about all these above examples.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120846200#Comment_120846200

I don't need to interview them.

All the evidence I ever could have needed is present with the audience reaction; how Trans Pride defended the speaker; and the very subtle defence of Baker that takes the form of whataboutery and "look over there" attempts to deflect away from the story.

One eyed Jack

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120846200#Comment_120846200

Keeping it under wraps with their rapturous applause 😁

Overheal

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120846228#Comment_120846228

But that’s all in public! 🤷🏻‍♂️ That has nothing to do with your claim, which you apparently have no evidence for.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120846244#Comment_120846244

Suffice to say that if that many trans activists are willing to support incitement to violence in the public square, as happened with Baker, then goodness knows how many others casually support what was said behind the scenes or when watching from home or social media.

What we can say for certain, too, is that you have spent more time trying to discredit me than you have discussing Baker and her comments and the reaction from the audience.

Why do you think that is?

What could possibly be motivating your focus on me, and not Baker and the actual story?

Annasopra

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120846231#Comment_120846231

Countess Markievicz destroys the ridiculous stereotyping of Richard Dawkins therefore lots of people secretly support a trans woman they never heard of. The logic of that 🤣🤣🤣