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Considering moving to the UK?

  • 07-03-2023 12:00am
    Registered Users Posts: 482 ✭✭

    I know their economy isn't doing great these days, but it seems like the cost of living is going up everywhere at the moment unfortunately I personally don't buy the current inflation figure as I have seen my shopping bill go up by way more than the headline 8%. And in terms of politics, is Fina Gale really that different to the Tories in the UK the difference reminds me of the difference between regular mayonnaise and light mayonnaise at the end of the day. They are basically just the same thing with only a slight difference.

    Only really considering it because one of my parents suggested they wanted to move back to the UK, I am fortunate that I have a good place over here and my landlord is decent although I have a fairly s*** job and don't drive, which makes life difficult since it's hard to find anything better both because there aren't that many job opportunities where I am and public transport, as I'm sure you all know is terrible at least here in the West.

    However my parents are quite old and we have always been close so want to continue being close by as they unfortunately reach their final years.

    So I'm interested in hearing anyone's stories that have moved to the UK recently. How have you found finding a place and finding a job where you are?

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  • Registered Users Posts: 20,392 ✭✭✭✭yourdeadwright

    It all depends where you want to move to ,

    In my experience the UK can be vastly different depending on where you go ,Even the city are hugely different to each other

    You can get cheaper houses without question but you also have more crime & every day stuff is getting very expensive

    England has some beautiful places to live but it also has way more social problems than Ireland does it can be extremely rough in places

  • Registered Users Posts: 12,247 ✭✭✭✭mariaalice

    The UK is vast, the South and London are very expensive the middle and North less expensive, some places are rough and poor and very little chance of changing, so it all depends.

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  • Registered Users Posts: 32,634 ✭✭✭✭Graces7

    The UK is by and large far better in many ways than here. Just very different so really comparisons are not valid. I am in Ireland over 20 years after several decades in the Uk

    Chalk and cheese. If you go to one expecting it to be like the other? Doomed to disappointment. If you go to one with an open heart accepting it as YOU find it day by day? Individual and very different ? As did and was not disappointed. And if I ever went back to the UK I would do the same; accept it as it is when I get there

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  • Registered Users Posts: 4,292 ✭✭✭Oscar_Madison

    Exactly how sh1t is your job OP? Does it pay well but you’re bored or is it a low skilled dead end job?

    I wouldn’t go to Engerland without qualifications or skills/experience behind me - there’s plenty of unskilled already there to compete with- I don’t think you’d survive very well. If you’re low skilled, forget buying a car and buy yourself an education instead- there’s tons of free or nearly free university courses out there sponsored by the state and EU on Springboard.

    Also don’t limit yourself to UK- if you qualify, Australia and New Zealand have visas for in demand skills so check those out too

  • Registered Users Posts: 32,634 ✭✭✭✭Graces7

    I sometimes think about going back to the UK where I was born and lived for about five decades.

    But when I see items on the news etc. I do not recognise it , and anyway my chosen lifestyle is deep rural and much the same here as there - but far less populated here.

    And I have no family etc there

    As long as I am deep rural/coastal I choose Ireland. and have deep roots in the local community here now.

  • Registered Users Posts: 24,443 ✭✭✭✭Strumms

    I’ve spent quite a lot of time in London, Manchester, Edinburgh and Glasgow.

    work, leisure trips and way back in the day I was seeing a girl from Edinburgh so that and Glasgow are places I know well.

    Never in a second would I contemplate a move from Dublin to there.

    things I like about those places but living, no.

    if I wanted to get out of here, Paris, Madrid, Nice, Rome, Bari are places I’d consider.

    certain parts of the UK are very expensive, wages are low.

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  • Registered Users Posts: 13,425 ✭✭✭✭Thelonious Monk

    I think London is the best city in the world, it has everything. This is my second stint here although the first one was a lot longer.

    Accom is a mare here now queues for flats etc like in Dublin. Its expensive too, I feel like groceries are dearer here, apart from booze. My local it's 6.50 quid for a pint of lager, but they only sell hipster beers around here.

    But do it if you can. It's a way more diverse and happening society and life here, mostly due to the sheer numbers. And it feels like home, everyone seems to treat Irish people like natives here, at least nowadays.

  • Registered Users Posts: 2,232 ✭✭✭TooTired123

    How long are you living there now? Would you not just move back to Ireland if it’s that awful?

  • Registered Users Posts: 13,425 ✭✭✭✭Thelonious Monk

    Yeah like the stuff local councils do over here compared to home is on another level.

  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators Posts: 9,785 Mod ✭✭✭✭Jim2007

    Generally speaking moving from a country with a per capita GDP that is twice the one you are heading to is not much of a strategy to beat the cost of living expense. On the other hand moving to another country purely for the economics does not work either as you need more than that to sustain you over the long run.

    But from what you say there are a lot of other factors at play in your thinking. I know of one young man who moved to the US from Ireland because his aged parents decided to go back there and that did not end well. Basically after a few months the parents decided the US had changed so much that they did not like it anymore and moved back to Ireland! So I'd be caucus about making a decision based on what your parents think they want. Let them go for awhile and see if they actually do settle down there and then decide on your move.

    Your parents aside, if you are going to be poor then try and do it in a warm country it's a lot more pleasant and cheaper.

  • Registered Users Posts: 8,184 ✭✭✭riclad

    i assume your parents are over 60, its strange to move to the uk,unless they own property there or else they are gauranteed of finding a cheap place to live, with low rent. staff are leaving the nhs due to overwork and stress .the general quality of medical care in the nhs is going down.

    the hse in ireland depends alot of eu non nationals and being part of the eu makes it easy for trained nurses and doctors to move to ireland.

    brexit has been a disaster for the uk in terms of the economy ,eg most uk companys depend of free acess to the eu market.inflation is effecting every country including the could end up paying more rent in the uk than in ireland depending on where you live.

  • Registered Users Posts: 12,247 ✭✭✭✭mariaalice

    It depends on what you want out of life the multiculturalism and opportunities appeal to a lot of people the lovely well of middle-class bits are very nice, and the history and tourism appeal to a lot of people, London is still despite Brexit a vast financial hub, Manchester has become very trendy/hipster/media oriented.

    There is more chance for people to reinvent themself one of my daughters commented about a terminally single woman she knows here, there is no way she'd be single in the UK, too many choices here, people from all over the world.

  • Registered Users Posts: 33,014 ✭✭✭✭listermint

    I work with probably with I'd say more than 35 different nationalities. The notion there isn't people from all over the world in Dublin is... bizarre.

    My guess would be terminally single is terminally not doing anything about it

  • Registered Users Posts: 551 ✭✭✭Slightly Kwackers

    I lived all my life in England and only moved to Ireland after the referendum.

    The finest gift my dear old mum gave me was my right to citizenship!

    I worked throughout the UK and found the cities pretty gruesome. I still have my place over there but can never see myself returning.

    The Tories are like no Irish party. They lie continually and avoid the truth at all costs. Look at the BBC and compare the reporting with the Guardian if you want a bit of information and truth.

    Wherever you go in England and to a smaller extent the rest of the UK you will see signs asking "customers" not to abuse or assault staff. Those signs are everywhere, Tolls, local government establishments, shops, doctors surgeries.

    The fairly obvious indicator of the hate mentality which has diffused through the UK is an indication of the way the place has changed over the decades I lived there.

    Why Britain with the whole of the EU to go at?

  • Registered Users Posts: 1,297 ✭✭✭walterking

    The op needs to understand how inflation is calculated.

    8% is OVERALL inflation.

    It's an AVERAGE.

    Food price inflation is currently 16%. In the UK it hit 20%.

    The UK is not cheap. Some items are cheaper, many are more expensive.

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  • Registered Users Posts: 10,414 ✭✭✭✭downcow

    I have lived in Uk all my life and genuinely wouldn’t swap it for anywhere. I love it. But the Uk is a big population in comparison to Ireland and it is incredibly diverse and areas to live are completely different. I am just back from a trip to london and I would hate to live there (lovely to visit). I was chatting to people who wouldn’t contemplate living anywhere other than London.

    so whatever you are after you will find it in the Uk, but also whatever you want to avoid you will also find it in the Uk. So you need to visit and travel it before deciding which area to live in.

  • Registered Users Posts: 32,634 ✭✭✭✭Graces7

  • Registered Users Posts: 551 ✭✭✭Slightly Kwackers

    That's depressing.

    Hospitals in the UK are well known for the attacks on medical staff though, so perhaps the problem is alcohol related or indeed due to the stress of someone in pain or in fear of their affliction.

    I doubt that either situation is likely to encourage "customers" to read the instructions before being violent or abusive.

    So sad!

    Maybe it's time to scrap the educational system in both countries and use the cash for other things?

    If you have to actually have to read a sign to tell you how humans are expected to behave, then maybe something is seriously wrong?

    Maybe these signs should be more pictorial anyway, "violent behaviour" is going to be an insurmountable reading challenge for someone unable to grasp the concept of respect for others.

  • Registered Users Posts: 32,634 ✭✭✭✭Graces7

    People under stress react in many ways and this is one way unfortunately and possibly drink- related if accidental injury?

    Far wiser to warn like this; and surely affects only a few folk.

    NB I lived in the UK most of my life and was in A and E at various times and never saw any hint of violence. They have to warn to avoid legal repercussions in the rare event of any such injury.

  • Registered Users Posts: 3,061 ✭✭✭salonfire

    Lol at the "big population in comparison to Ireland and it is incredibly diverse" spin when you actually live in a closed minded, bigoted, subvented "wee country". With political parties who belive earth is only a few thousand years old.

    Parties which you support.

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  • Registered Users Posts: 32,634 ✭✭✭✭Graces7

    Maybe that many of those who attend A and E get hurt in eg a fight or drunk? and yes, alcohol a factor ..I think that that s what this refers to. Living deep rural means I have had perforce sometimes had to go to A and E more than many as safer and faster than getting your GP out. and I have never ever seen a drunk there or anyone being violent. This was the case in the UK and certainly is here.

  • Registered Users Posts: 16,059 ✭✭✭✭Leg End Reject

    And in terms of politics, is Fina Gale really that different to the Tories in the UK the difference reminds me of the difference between regular mayonnaise and light mayonnaise at the end of the day. 

    No rational person would think regular mayonnaise is similar to light mayonnaise, in the end of the day or at the crack of dawn.

  • Registered Users Posts: 276 ✭✭Piskin

    The UK is an impressive country. London is a world class city. Outside London I found Southampton the best to live in.

  • Registered Users Posts: 32,634 ✭✭✭✭Graces7

    City hater here! before I left the UK I drifted further and further north....And to offshore islands. Then to Ireland and now offshore permanently.

    It depends on the lifestyle you seek and value and need. Long since retired and being all but housebound, towns and cities have no appeal. We have the internet etc these days which has made a huge difference and I have enough friends on the island now.

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  • Registered Users Posts: 551 ✭✭✭Slightly Kwackers

    Thanks, you are probably one of the many thousands in both countries with the same experience.

    There is the point that newspapers never keep a readership without emphasising the newsworthy which more often than not encourages disgust or fear.

    Living in a UK city though it was like a zoo come Friday and Saturday night, I would find it hard to believe some of the people hurling abuse and brawling didn't make it to the hospital.

    It is reputed to be a common problem, assaults on medical staff there although it is beyond my personal experience thank goodness. There was even talk of making assault charges specific regarding emergy workers, but it's difficult to gauge what is need driven and what is playing to the fear of the electorate there.

    My only personal experience of assaults in the UK were a couple of vicious attacks on shop windows, the last one being on a kebab shop at pub kicking out time in the South of England. The management were obviously at fault though as the sign asking customers not to be violent only applied to staff and not the windows of the establishment.

    Regardless really, despite it being the country I was born in and spent most of my "allocated span" in, Brexit and the hate it brought to the surface made it a pleasure to leave.