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Considering moving to the UK?

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I know their economy isn't doing great these days, but it seems like the cost of living is going up everywhere at the moment unfortunately I personally don't buy the current inflation figure as I have seen my shopping bill go up by way more than the headline 8%. And in terms of politics, is Fina Gale really that different to the Tories in the UK the difference reminds me of the difference between regular mayonnaise and light mayonnaise at the end of the day. They are basically just the same thing with only a slight difference.

Only really considering it because one of my parents suggested they wanted to move back to the UK, I am fortunate that I have a good place over here and my landlord is decent although I have a fairly s*** job and don't drive, which makes life difficult since it's hard to find anything better both because there aren't that many job opportunities where I am and public transport, as I'm sure you all know is terrible at least here in the West.

However my parents are quite old and we have always been close so want to continue being close by as they unfortunately reach their final years.

So I'm interested in hearing anyone's stories that have moved to the UK recently. How have you found finding a place and finding a job where you are?

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Graces7

I do not have a political bone in my body and not even sure where I was re Brexit. I think maybe here by then... But it was all way over my head.

But the thought of anyone attacking emergency room staff.

I have a memory re I think Tralee emergency room.... That anyone who was at all the worse for drink had to wait in a separate room where security were on duty. Now THAT makes sense.

Slightly Kwackers

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120343610#Comment_120343610

Thanks, you are probably one of the many thousands in both countries with the same experience.

There is the point that newspapers never keep a readership without emphasising the newsworthy which more often than not encourages disgust or fear.

Living in a UK city though it was like a zoo come Friday and Saturday night, I would find it hard to believe some of the people hurling abuse and brawling didn't make it to the hospital.

It is reputed to be a common problem, assaults on medical staff there although it is beyond my personal experience thank goodness. There was even talk of making assault charges specific regarding emergy workers, but it's difficult to gauge what is need driven and what is playing to the fear of the electorate there.

My only personal experience of assaults in the UK were a couple of vicious attacks on shop windows, the last one being on a kebab shop at pub kicking out time in the South of England. The management were obviously at fault though as the sign asking customers not to be violent only applied to staff and not the windows of the establishment.

Regardless really, despite it being the country I was born in and spent most of my "allocated span" in, Brexit and the hate it brought to the surface made it a pleasure to leave.

Graces7

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120343650#Comment_120343650

City hater here! before I left the UK I drifted further and further north....And to offshore islands. Then to Ireland and now offshore permanently.

It depends on the lifestyle you seek and value and need. Long since retired and being all but housebound, towns and cities have no appeal. We have the internet etc these days which has made a huge difference and I have enough friends on the island now.

Piskin

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120328510#Comment_120328510

The UK is an impressive country. London is a world class city. Outside London I found Southampton the best to live in.

Leg End Reject

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058287175/considering-moving-to-the-uk

And in terms of politics, is Fina Gale really that different to the Tories in the UK the difference reminds me of the difference between regular mayonnaise and light mayonnaise at the end of the day.

No rational person would think regular mayonnaise is similar to light mayonnaise, in the end of the day or at the crack of dawn.

Graces7

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120329025#Comment_120329025

Maybe that many of those who attend A and E get hurt in eg a fight or drunk? and yes, alcohol a factor ..I think that that s what this refers to. Living deep rural means I have had perforce sometimes had to go to A and E more than many as safer and faster than getting your GP out. and I have never ever seen a drunk there or anyone being violent. This was the case in the UK and certainly is here.

[Deleted User]

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120328510#Comment_120328510

Lol at the "big population in comparison to Ireland and it is incredibly diverse" spin when you actually live in a closed minded, bigoted, subvented "wee country". With political parties who belive earth is only a few thousand years old.

Parties which you support.

Graces7

People under stress react in many ways and this is one way unfortunately and possibly drink- related if accidental injury?

Far wiser to warn like this; and surely affects only a few folk.

NB I lived in the UK most of my life and was in A and E at various times and never saw any hint of violence. They have to warn to avoid legal repercussions in the rare event of any such injury.

Slightly Kwackers

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120328570#Comment_120328570

That's depressing.

Hospitals in the UK are well known for the attacks on medical staff though, so perhaps the problem is alcohol related or indeed due to the stress of someone in pain or in fear of their affliction.

I doubt that either situation is likely to encourage "customers" to read the instructions before being violent or abusive.

So sad!

Maybe it's time to scrap the educational system in both countries and use the cash for other things?

If you have to actually have to read a sign to tell you how humans are expected to behave, then maybe something is seriously wrong?

Maybe these signs should be more pictorial anyway, "violent behaviour" is going to be an insurmountable reading challenge for someone unable to grasp the concept of respect for others.

Graces7

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120327940#Comment_120327940

Those signs are in hospitals here too...

downcow

I have lived in Uk all my life and genuinely wouldn’t swap it for anywhere. I love it. But the Uk is a big population in comparison to Ireland and it is incredibly diverse and areas to live are completely different. I am just back from a trip to london and I would hate to live there (lovely to visit). I was chatting to people who wouldn’t contemplate living anywhere other than London.

so whatever you are after you will find it in the Uk, but also whatever you want to avoid you will also find it in the Uk. So you need to visit and travel it before deciding which area to live in.

walterking

The op needs to understand how inflation is calculated.

8% is OVERALL inflation.

It's an AVERAGE.

Food price inflation is currently 16%. In the UK it hit 20%.

The UK is not cheap. Some items are cheaper, many are more expensive.

Slightly Kwackers

I lived all my life in England and only moved to Ireland after the referendum.

The finest gift my dear old mum gave me was my right to citizenship!

I worked throughout the UK and found the cities pretty gruesome. I still have my place over there but can never see myself returning.

The Tories are like no Irish party. They lie continually and avoid the truth at all costs. Look at the BBC and compare the reporting with the Guardian if you want a bit of information and truth.

Wherever you go in England and to a smaller extent the rest of the UK you will see signs asking "customers" not to abuse or assault staff. Those signs are everywhere, Tolls, local government establishments, shops, doctors surgeries.

The fairly obvious indicator of the hate mentality which has diffused through the UK is an indication of the way the place has changed over the decades I lived there.

Why Britain with the whole of the EU to go at?

listermint

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120327788#Comment_120327788

I work with probably with I'd say more than 35 different nationalities. The notion there isn't people from all over the world in Dublin is... bizarre.

My guess would be terminally single is terminally not doing anything about it

[Deleted User]

It depends on what you want out of life the multiculturalism and opportunities appeal to a lot of people the lovely well of middle-class bits are very nice, and the history and tourism appeal to a lot of people, London is still despite Brexit a vast financial hub, Manchester has become very trendy/hipster/media oriented.

There is more chance for people to reinvent themself one of my daughters commented about a terminally single woman she knows here, there is no way she'd be single in the UK, too many choices here, people from all over the world.

riclad

i assume your parents are over 60, its strange to move to the uk,unless they own property there or else they are gauranteed of finding a cheap place to live, with low rent. staff are leaving the nhs due to overwork and stress .the general quality of medical care in the nhs is going down.

the hse in ireland depends alot of eu non nationals and being part of the eu makes it easy for trained nurses and doctors to move to ireland.

brexit has been a disaster for the uk in terms of the economy ,eg most uk companys depend of free acess to the eu market.inflation is effecting every country including the uk.you could end up paying more rent in the uk than in ireland depending on where you live.

Jim2007

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058287175/considering-moving-to-the-uk

Generally speaking moving from a country with a per capita GDP that is twice the one you are heading to is not much of a strategy to beat the cost of living expense. On the other hand moving to another country purely for the economics does not work either as you need more than that to sustain you over the long run.

But from what you say there are a lot of other factors at play in your thinking. I know of one young man who moved to the US from Ireland because his aged parents decided to go back there and that did not end well. Basically after a few months the parents decided the US had changed so much that they did not like it anymore and moved back to Ireland! So I'd be caucus about making a decision based on what your parents think they want. Let them go for awhile and see if they actually do settle down there and then decide on your move.

Your parents aside, if you are going to be poor then try and do it in a warm country it's a lot more pleasant and cheaper.

quokula

I spent over a decade in London and it's an incredible place to live. Whatever your interests are, whoever you are, you will find like minded people and find endless things to do.

But it is also much, much more expensive than Dublin and housing is an absolute nightmare there compared to here. In recent years the NHS has been on its knees along with every other public service, and Brexit did have a real and noticeable impact - on more than one occasion I was on the receiving end of racist or xenophobic comments, and as an Irish person I had it easy compared to some of my other non-British friends. This only ever happened when I ventured outside of London though, the city itself remains a multicultural and welcoming haven.

If I was 20 again I'd still move back to London in an instant, but as someone starting a family with young children, Dublin is a far better place from the point of view of housing, safety, air quality, schools, social safety nets etc

And honestly, regarding your comment about Fine Gael, they are not remotely anywhere near being close to the Tories. I'd say Fine Gael would be analogous to the Lib Dems and Fianna Fail would be analogous to Labour. The Tories are off the chart that exists in Irish politics. Living in the UK and reading the news and seeing what the governing party were getting up to regularly was not good for mental health.

Thelonious Monk

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120326701#Comment_120326701

Yeah like the stuff local councils do over here compared to home is on another level.

TooTired123

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120324702#Comment_120324702

How long are you living there now? Would you not just move back to Ireland if it’s that awful?

Thelonious Monk

I think London is the best city in the world, it has everything. This is my second stint here although the first one was a lot longer.

Accom is a mare here now queues for flats etc like in Dublin. Its expensive too, I feel like groceries are dearer here, apart from booze. My local it's 6.50 quid for a pint of lager, but they only sell hipster beers around here.

But do it if you can. It's a way more diverse and happening society and life here, mostly due to the sheer numbers. And it feels like home, everyone seems to treat Irish people like natives here, at least nowadays.

Strumms

I’ve spent quite a lot of time in London, Manchester, Edinburgh and Glasgow.

work, leisure trips and way back in the day I was seeing a girl from Edinburgh so that and Glasgow are places I know well.

Never in a second would I contemplate a move from Dublin to there.

things I like about those places but living, no.

if I wanted to get out of here, Paris, Madrid, Nice, Rome, Bari are places I’d consider.

certain parts of the UK are very expensive, wages are low.

Graces7

I sometimes think about going back to the UK where I was born and lived for about five decades.

But when I see items on the news etc. I do not recognise it , and anyway my chosen lifestyle is deep rural and much the same here as there - but far less populated here.

And I have no family etc there

As long as I am deep rural/coastal I choose Ireland. and have deep roots in the local community here now.

listermint

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120324687#Comment_120324687

Lol.

None of the above is true except perhaps the unhappiness travelling with you.

The UK of 2005 is dead and buried the Conservative party dam well made sure of that through incredible funding cuts and deregulation.

Joke that anyone thinks it's well run and or the issues are related to an out of power labour party. Money comes from top.

TooTired123

Anywhere you move to you have to bring yourself. If you’re unhappy and dissatisfied in yourself in Ireland then moving to the UK or anywhere else is not going to change that. If you’re happy in yourself you’ll be happy anywhere.

The thing about the UK is that despite what you’ll hear on Irish media it is a far better run and managed country than Ireland will ever be. And that’s amazing really considering the size of their population in comparison to ours.

Yes they’re crime ridden areas but mostly that’s to do with successive Labour led councils spending the money very badly. Let them get on with it I say. The people keep voting for these idiots. Avoid these areas and you’ll be fine.

Oscar_Madison

Exactly how sh1t is your job OP? Does it pay well but you’re bored or is it a low skilled dead end job?

I wouldn’t go to Engerland without qualifications or skills/experience behind me - there’s plenty of unskilled already there to compete with- I don’t think you’d survive very well. If you’re low skilled, forget buying a car and buy yourself an education instead- there’s tons of free or nearly free university courses out there sponsored by the state and EU on Springboard.

Also don’t limit yourself to UK- if you qualify, Australia and New Zealand have visas for in demand skills so check those out too

dRNk SAnTA

From what I've seen having "a **** job" in the UK and having "a **** job" in Ireland are two different things. Being poor in England is another ball game. But that said, why not give it a try? You can be home in 6 hours if you don't like it.

Graces7

The UK is by and large far better in many ways than here. Just very different so really comparisons are not valid. I am in Ireland over 20 years after several decades in the Uk

Chalk and cheese. If you go to one expecting it to be like the other? Doomed to disappointment. If you go to one with an open heart accepting it as YOU find it day by day? Individual and very different ? As did and was not disappointed. And if I ever went back to the UK I would do the same; accept it as it is when I get there

dxhound2005

Northern Ireland is very nice.

[Deleted User]

The UK is vast, the South and London are very expensive the middle and North less expensive, some places are rough and poor and very little chance of changing, so it all depends.