Buying a house - No certificate of compliance with building regulations

C. Eastwood

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120198047#Comment_120198047

All new drains should be checked with a Hydrostatic Test to ensure that the drains are watertight.

The term Watertight means that the drains are capable of being filled with water with a certain water pressure without any of the water escaping.

The term Moran refers to the CP’s that do not carry out Hydrostatic tests on drains, and provide Certification for same.

C. Eastwood

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120197620#Comment_120197620

A Watermain is not a Drain

They are totally different water pipe

sydthebeat

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120198329#Comment_120198329

Oh you mean sewer rather than drain?

A 'drain' drains land, therefore cannot be water tight

C. Eastwood

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120197620#Comment_120197620

You stated above:-

“You are slightly preoccupied with watertight drains I feel.”

That would be a brilliant reply in the High Court to a Senior Counsel. It’s so funny.

Most claims for negligence against incompetent house Survey Reports are against incompetent Surveyors because of unreported leaking drains.

Most subsidence of buildings are caused by escape of water from leaking drains.

Expert Experienced Surveyors always carry out a hydrostatic test on all the drains.

C. Eastwood

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120197620#Comment_120197620

Are you going to explain to me what caused a perfect mature house to suffer subsidence in a very short period of time.

C. Eastwood

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120198382#Comment_120198382

A Foul water drain and a Surface water drain are Drains.

sydthebeat

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120198448#Comment_120198448

Let's put it down to a difference of semantics. I've only ever used "sewer" to describe a closed watertight pipe network, and drain as an open system designed to drain lands etc.

But if it's used differently in different sectors so be it, no point in getting into sematic arguments.

I guess the point mickdw was making is that sometimes things happen liked I described above

mickdw

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120198437#Comment_120198437

It's only you who has locked in on drainage leaks.

I presented a hypothetical situation of a burst water main (yes I know this is not a drain) adjacent to a house causing wash out of soil at or below foundation level resulting in rapidly developing subsidence.

That's an example just for **** and giggles. We were actually arguing the same side but you seem to have gone off on a tangent about water tight drains.

C. Eastwood

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120198547#Comment_120198547

And there is me thinking we are supposed to provide proper advice to the OP Gurteen who poster a question on 27 Jan 2023 at 5.13 pm, but momentarily I forgot about the clique.

mickdw

I think you will find I gave a pretty comprehensive direct response to that question from my own 1st hand experience of issuing such certs retrospectively.

C3PO

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120198598#Comment_120198598

I suspect that you are probably very knowledgeable but the tedious nature and the superior attitude you display make your posts hard to read. I used to enjoy this forum but you have managed to make most of the threads really hard work now! You would be a lot more helpful if you loosened up a bit!

SupaCat95

Had this problem 2 years ago when I bought. The garage was converted into a 2nd living room, for probably a cash in hand job at the time of construction. There was never a certificate of completion done. Luckily our solicitor caught it.

It's not a big delay, maybe about a week if all parties are working at the same speed. It's a quick job that an architect/engineer/QS usually comes in checked the building has been completed to the correct standard and writes a report. Cost circa e500. An expense for the seller. It's one of those jobs you should get checked off asap because the day you want it, it will be annoying to get.

Our estate agent was an a-hole, blamed it on me and wanted to know what it had to do with him. The ludder should have spotted it first and advised the seller to get it sorted before it went on the market.

It's not a big job but it's a pain if everyone wants a smooth transaction.

mickdw

To be honest, estate agents typically won't get into any of this stuff. Their job is to go sale agreed and don't want to know about the detail whatsoever.