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Time for a zero refugee policy? - *Read OP for mod warnings and threadbans - updated 11/5/24*

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    #18812
    Patrick2010
    Registered Users Posts: 3,128 ✭✭✭Patrick2010


    Whoever selects the letters for the Indo letter pages is obviously of the open borders persuasion comparing hard working Irish people who went to England taking on hard working labour with lads arriving in Ireland expecting free houses



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    #18813
    Kermit.de.frog
    Registered Users Posts: 23,616 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    This week a further 127 new asylum seekers showed up at IPAS. Every single one to be on our streets homeless.

    We are in a crisis.



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    #18814
    Lofidelity
    Registered Users Posts: 242 ✭✭Lofidelity


    Migrant rights groups were invited into Leinster house earlier this week to discuss the new EU asylum pact.

    That's direct access and influence on the people in power while the general population have to wait for a referendum or election to get their voice heard. That's not very democratic.



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    #18815
    Photobox
    Registered Users Posts: 825 ✭✭✭Photobox


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122096623#Comment_122096623

    Read the letter. No words for the level of disingenuous argument. It's infuriating.



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    #18816
    Annabella1
    Registered Users Posts: 639 ✭✭✭Annabella1


    most uncomfortable for the power brokers living in Dublin 4 with these lads rocking up in their tents

    Expect a change in government direction imminently !!



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    #18817
    Kermit.de.frog
    Registered Users Posts: 23,616 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    They all have the exact same tents in the pictures. I'm guessing from an NGO.



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    #18818
    willyvanilla
    Registered Users Posts: 60 ✭✭willyvanilla


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122096623#Comment_122096623

    Luxurious beliefs, that's all it is.

    Give me a venn diagram of those who support ever more migrants into the country and itll be practically 1 to 1 with

    they own their own home

    They have private healthcare

    They have access to private education

    They are invested in the housing crisis

    They draw an income from migrant related activities

    Not to say that you can't be comfortable and also have a conscience or critical ability of patent madness, absolutely you can. But I think we can all take a very good guess that those on the side of migrant "activity" are interested in one thing and one thing alone: themselves.

    Not that that mask would ever be let slip, of course.



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    #18819
    DaithiMa
    Registered Users Posts: 427 ✭✭DaithiMa


    Tent city is back. Seriously, how is Roderic still in his position? He has utterly failed at his brief.

    https://www.rte.ie/news/ireland/2024/0504/1447384-asylum-seekers-migration/



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    #18820
    tayto lover
    Registered Users Posts: 51,655 ✭✭✭✭tayto lover


    Has anyone explained yet how we're able to afford all these immigrants? Seems like there's an awful lot of them for such a small country.



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    #18821
    Kermit.de.frog
    Registered Users Posts: 23,616 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    ...

    https://twitter.com/DrHaroldNews/status/1786450755995533378



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    #18822
    willyvanilla
    Registered Users Posts: 60 ✭✭willyvanilla


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122096702#Comment_122096702

    As I said earlier, there's no mountain high enough, no valley low enough that the government won't overcome to house migrants. Money, effort, time, all limitless.

    They'll knowingly make decisions so inflammatory it'll bring protestors to their own front doors. But that isn't enough to stop them making the "right" decisions.

    Meanwhile, the Irish people and their housing crisis? Who gives the smallest of ****, certainly not the government. They're too busy, you see.



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    #18823
    SuperBowserWorld
    Registered Users Posts: 6,740 ✭✭✭SuperBowserWorld


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122096597#Comment_122096597

    The system needs bodies to buy **** to keep the whole hyper consumer pyramid scheme economy going, regardless of the health of nations or the environment.

    The government thinks they are following some righteous path, when they are just pawns in the system. Michael McGrath and Pascal Donohue act like they've just got a load of money for their first communion and that they are good little god fearing boys. When in fact is all due to the **** crazy housing system and MNC tax system here.

    Simon Harris is dead right that people should not have protesters outside his house especially when his kids are going to bed

    But other people's kids are dead from sepsis because there was no doctor available or they are **** emigrating or suicidal because they are adults and still living with their parents or have been led to believe awful **** on social media because the government does not regulate it … even though the toothless EU regulartor is here.

    All about the money and greed.



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    #18824
    brickster69
    Registered Users Posts: 5,478 ✭✭✭brickster69


    All coming out now lads.

    https://twitter.com/IrishTimes/status/1786607076929896879

    An evil man will burn his own nation to the ground to rule over the ashes - Sun Tzu



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    #18825
    tayto lover
    Registered Users Posts: 51,655 ✭✭✭✭tayto lover


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122096720#Comment_122096720

    Yes but how is it being paid for?



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    #18826
    Spanish Eyes
    Registered Users Posts: 15,925 ✭✭✭✭Spanish Eyes


    RTE with O'Mongain today leads with the Trinity student protests about Gaza, and continues with the panel. I suppose that is of great importance to everyone this week.



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    #18827
    CollyFlower
    Registered Users Posts: 6,039 ✭✭✭CollyFlower


    Who we it that said, "all are welcome. No cap on numbers"?

    Hope they're eating their words now.



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    #18828
    BlueSkyDreams
    Registered Users Posts: 3,384 ✭✭✭BlueSkyDreams


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122096472#Comment_122096472

    People dont need to be opressed and bullied by institutions in order to have meaning and morality in their life.

    The unique difficulty facing politicians nowadays, which was not present back then, is social media.

    There are a million voices for people to listen to now, when back then, there was barely more than one.



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    #18829
    Strazdas
    Registered Users Posts: 18,391 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122096702#Comment_122096702

    That's the way the asylum system works unfortunately. Every country that accepts asylum seekers does so at a net loss. It's sort of at the same level as overseas aid or helping out with disaster relief etc.



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    #18830
    SuperBowserWorld
    Registered Users Posts: 6,740 ✭✭✭SuperBowserWorld


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122096745#Comment_122096745

    If the government is so dead set on the huge brutal crisis that is Gaza, why don't they boycott the EU parliament?

    Clare Daly, called it out recently there, and there was like 2 people in the place.

    Say what you like, she called it out. Reminded me of when Sinead O Connor ripped up a picture of the pope. People can't handle the truth. Gaza is because the US military industrial complex needs to be fed and we are all part of that, like it or not like it. No one will say anything here, really, because we know where the money comes from.



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    #18831
    baldbear
    Registered Users Posts: 5,554 ✭✭✭baldbear


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122096669#Comment_122096669

    The Lighthouse charity is giving them tents.



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    #18832
    SuperBowserWorld
    Registered Users Posts: 6,740 ✭✭✭SuperBowserWorld


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122096738#Comment_122096738

    Your taxes and huge government spending and debt build up. We spend huge amounts of money here to do everything. Even the simplest things. So these will be the most expensive migrants in history of the world.I guarantee you, even if we could do it at a reasonable cost, it'll be pumped up to ridiculous costs.. It's a gravy train. Watch that national debt skyrocket ! But hey, enjoy the latte while it lasts. 🤣🤣

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    #18833
    ShamNNspace
    Registered Users Posts: 4,695 ✭✭✭ShamNNspace


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122096669#Comment_122096669

    I think think all the tents are covered with blue tarpaulin for some reason, probably makes them more watertight



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    #18834
    Juran
    Registered Users Posts: 784 ✭✭✭Juran


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122095277#Comment_122095277

    100%.

    Look at our own crowd who dont work and who never will thanks to generous benefits, plenty of healthy men and women in this bracket. If it wasnt so generous, these guys would be either working here, or else would head to work in UK, Europe, Oz, US, etc .. like our relatives did up until the 90's.



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    #18835
    Northernlily
    Registered Users Posts: 2,816 ✭✭✭Northernlily


    I've had it with the Govt to be honest. They need to be turfed.

    The speed at which the arms of the state can move to facilitate new arrivals in comparison with our own people is something else.

    They only care about not being embarrassed on the international stage which is absolutely pathetic and shows these charlatans for what they are. Their primary interest doesn't lie with serving the people that have elected them.

    As far as I'm concerned they have broke the social contract and therefore lost their mandate to Govern.



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    #18836
    DeadHand
    Registered Users Posts: 2,743 ✭✭✭DeadHand


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122096649#Comment_122096649

    Sad to think the Irish nation will have zero representation and no one fighting its corner at that meeting.



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    #18837
    BlueSkyDreams
    Registered Users Posts: 3,384 ✭✭✭BlueSkyDreams


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122096864#Comment_122096864

    Should improve now on Momt St as thats where govt eyes are and Harris has said it wont happen again, although it looks like the problem with tents is just to be dispersed elsewhere.



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    #18838
    ShamNNspace
    Registered Users Posts: 4,695 ✭✭✭ShamNNspace


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122096864#Comment_122096864

    I don't disagree, and when they move on the tents, tarps will all be thrown in a skip and later the ngo's will supply new ones, it's all a disheartening mess



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    #18839
    gw80
    Registered Users Posts: 1,020 ✭✭✭gw80


    The only way this stops is if the people stand up and do something drastic, threaten to bring the economy to a stop, block the roads,block the tunnels, and all the major MCNs,

    International obligations and Geneva conventions do not apply to the people of this country,that stuff is for governments to worry about,

    Big tented encampments with no access to outside until they are processed or they volunteer to get on a plane and leave.

    It's ridiculous to be having shady African and middle Eastern men hanging around small villages and towns around the country waiting for their weekly handouts,



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