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Snooker Shoot Out - #Clockisticking 25-28 January, Eurosport, Discovery+, Matchroom.live

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,102 ✭✭✭Genghis


    This format has grown on me, have to say. Albeit patience usually runs thin with the crowd.

    Impossible to predict, what I like about it is it usually propels someone up the ranking and that can be the boost they need, earning them wildcard like entries to Champion of Champions, etc. Like Hossain Vofaei last year, or Ryan Day year before.

    Going against what I have just said re: boosting a laggard, I think Mark Williams might be the man to beat this year. His care-free, unconventional, impulsive snooker brain is well suited for it, just needs luck on his side.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,546 ✭✭✭Arthur Daley


    Win for the young Romanian 14 year old earlier and now McGuigan from the North.

    It is also where the youngsters coming through get a bit of experience playing on TV against the seasoned tour pros



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,165 ✭✭✭hayrabit


    excellent acute angle red by The Milkman there to the middle bag; deserved the win for that one alone

    Fouldsy was in awe!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,546 ✭✭✭Arthur Daley


    Ken gets a win anyway.

    Maguire really didn't turn up to play there



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,048 ✭✭✭✭HeidiHeidi


    I'd completely forgotten this was coming up!

    I'd also forgotten how very painful the audience are 🙄



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,546 ✭✭✭Arthur Daley


    14 year old Riley Powell from Wales beats Kyren Wilson.

    That's a great day out for a young lad



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,048 ✭✭✭✭HeidiHeidi


    Jesus, the head on Highfield!!

    I'd forgotten about him.

    Poomjaeng def winning the entertainment division so far!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,546 ✭✭✭Arthur Daley


    Poomjaeng going a bit loopy, you have to like it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,048 ✭✭✭✭HeidiHeidi


    Good woman, Reanne!!

    This is all very entertaining and all (apart from the drunken eejits in the cheap seats) - but how on earth is it a ranking event?? 🙄



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 827 ✭✭✭farmingquestion


    Is it just me or does the sound of the audience sound very tinny? Like the sound is being broadcast over a speaker.. very annoying.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,048 ✭✭✭✭HeidiHeidi


    The whole thing comes across very amateurish.... camerawork is all over the shop as well (looked like all except one wasn't working for about the first hour of this evening session).

    There seems to be whole sections of empty seats, might account for the audience acoustics.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,546 ✭✭✭Arthur Daley


    They do have that 360 degree camera here again. I do like the views that gives. Might not be on tonight though.

    Early today the beeps weren't working and Marcel the ref had to tell the players when time was ticking down. Then the crowd started doing the beeps to tell the player the time was ticking down. Great bit of fun.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 827 ✭✭✭farmingquestion


    There's not many ranking points really. You only get 2k for reaching the last 16.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,546 ✭✭✭Arthur Daley


    5 grand for the highest break. Holt has that so far with 116. 2nd century today there now, but tough to beat 116 from here, someone might do it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,048 ✭✭✭✭HeidiHeidi


    Still enough to tip someone into the top 16, according to the commentator (presumably simultaneously knocking someone else out).

    Just seems a bit mad for such a chaotic, random event.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,546 ✭✭✭Arthur Daley


    For the likes of Mark Davis hovering around 64 cut off for the tour card, a grand or two can make all the difference at the end of the season.

    Even for the top 16 for Sheffield for the lkes of Gary Wilson, Dave Gilbert or Vafaei etc.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,048 ✭✭✭✭HeidiHeidi


    Fluke of the year right there! 😱🤣



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,048 ✭✭✭✭HeidiHeidi


    Desi looks about 12 without her glasses!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,546 ✭✭✭Arthur Daley


    Welsh v Irish ties tommorow

    Ken Dohery v Dominic Dale

    Jackson Page v Fergal O'Brien


    Reanne gets Gary Wilson

    All Thai affair for Poomjaeng v Thepchiya. That will be entertaining no doubt



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,615 ✭✭✭✭ArmaniJeanss


    Alan MacManus is very good on commentary in this. He has clearly put a lot of thought (perhaps too much) into the correct tactics in various end-game situations. Foulds is still mainly stuck in 'normal' snooker thinking.

    edit.

    example : For something like 'cueball in hand' so many players start on the easiest red available that has access to a big colour. Whereas MacManus has correctly pointed out that the 'second easiest red' is usually the better play, and keep the easiest red for the third shot in your break.

    Post edited by ArmaniJeanss on


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,331 ✭✭✭✭loyatemu


    watched it for the first time last night, the matches are entertaining in a harem scarem kind of way. The audience is super annoying though - I assume they're trying to encourage a darts type atmosphere but it just doesn't work with such a small crowd. The list of previous winners is virtually all mid-ranked journeymen which shows how random the format is (even allowing for the fact that some of the top guys don't turn up).



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,048 ✭✭✭✭HeidiHeidi


    I've been trying to figure out what stops the shot clock - is it striking the cue ball, or is it the cue ball hitting the object ball?

    I know they said yesterday that at the end the final shot carries past the final clock until all the balls have stopped, so that's not what I'm asking - I'm talking about during the game.

    Wiki not very helpful on the subject!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,546 ✭✭✭Arthur Daley


    Ken gone out to Dale.

    Dominic Dale is some character with his Welsh Warbling

    I'd say the shot clock stops when the cue ball is struck. Not much time between that and object ball being hit in many cases anyway.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 827 ✭✭✭farmingquestion


    It's when the cue ball is struck, though you'll still hear the beep a second or two after they've hit the ball.

    What will happen when the ref needs to spend a minute or so respotting a pink or something?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,615 ✭✭✭✭ArmaniJeanss


    Ref took about 10/12 seconds to spot the pink (no spot available) in a frame yesterday. The match clock continued to run but the shot clock didn't start until the ref signalled.

    I do remember thinking that such an occurrence would be unfortunate if it happened in the final 60 seconds. Though could argue that the player shouldn't have tracked/potted the pink (if he is losing) if there was any chance of it leading to a delay, so it's a game awareness thing.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,048 ✭✭✭✭HeidiHeidi


    I've seen the refs breaking into a trot occasionally when they've a colour to re-spot from the other end of the table, so they do their best!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,048 ✭✭✭✭HeidiHeidi


    Is Jimmy White alright these days?

    He has the look of someone who's had a feed of early pints, but he also has the slight look of someone with early parkinsons or something like that......



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 827 ✭✭✭farmingquestion


    Back from an ad break yesterday he was talking like he had something in his mouth



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,546 ✭✭✭Arthur Daley


    That was a good frame between Fergal and Jackson Page. Good win for Fergal



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,048 ✭✭✭✭HeidiHeidi


    McManus is the absolute kiss of death for every player - every time he says what a brilliant potter they are, or how they're a dead cert for this shot, or this one's in the pocket guaranteed - bang, they miss! 🤣

    Every. Single. Time.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,048 ✭✭✭✭HeidiHeidi


    Aww, I really thought the young fella might nab the last spot from the afternoon session!

    Must be a mad atmosphere for the young uns to play in.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,546 ✭✭✭Arthur Daley


    Robbie McGuigan getting the experience out there



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,048 ✭✭✭✭HeidiHeidi


    I thought the two 14-year olds were to play each other in this round? They were lamenting about how it was such a shame....

    Have they re-done the draw??

    (Haven't been paying proper attention to the build-up)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,546 ✭✭✭Arthur Daley


    The Moldovan was playing the Brazilian there.

    The two Thais are playing each other a bit later.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,165 ✭✭✭hayrabit


    hope Desi gets another shift laterer doors :)

    she's very pretty :-)



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,165 ✭✭✭hayrabit


    best match yet that one between Thep and Poomy !



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,048 ✭✭✭✭HeidiHeidi


    How does Gary Wilson do that with his head?? It's making me feel slightly queasy!

    As McManus said, it'll be a shame if he cleans up thanks to a complete fluke first shot.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,551 ✭✭✭AllForIt


    It amazing to me how these pro players miss balls by miles when feeling rushed. Just shows to show how much you have to concentrate to send that cue through in a straight line.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,546 ✭✭✭Arthur Daley


    Poomjaeng in the middle of the lads on the front row cheering on his countryman Noppon. He is some livewire.

    Playing Willo tommorow, that game won't be too serious.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,048 ✭✭✭✭HeidiHeidi


    I'm looking forward to that, Williams is well able to enjoy himself (in the most downbeat, dour- seeming way)!!



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 378 ✭✭PaoloGotti


    Maybe I am too traditionalist, but I hate this format of snooker. Give me a 60 minute frame deep into a World final every day.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,048 ✭✭✭✭HeidiHeidi


    I enjoy the snooker - it's interesting to see players who can (and often do) take half the day to consider every single option and outcome, forced into making quick on-the-hoof decisions.

    Could def live without the idiot audience though.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,102 ✭✭✭Genghis


    I know. I donn't enjoy watching Gary (or Anthony McGill) play because of their contorted head position. Mind you seen both live and it's not so pronounced, it's the focus of the camera that emphasises it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,165 ✭✭✭hayrabit


    controversy here 😁

    DD was late on his shot, and after a few moments consultation between 2/3 referees the boy Iqbal was given 'ball in hand'

    Dom wasn't happy 😁

    he's back at table and back in front now tho



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,551 ✭✭✭AllForIt


    I'm surprised I'm quite enjoying this this year, wasn't that hot on it last year.

    Anyway nice recovery there from Holt to beat Lisowski. Jack looked really pissed 😆



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,551 ✭✭✭AllForIt


    Never saw that ref before, for a second I thought it was Stephen Lee



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,546 ✭✭✭Arthur Daley


    Pity Poomjaeng went so easily.

    With 50 grand to the winner and 12.5 grand for an appearance at the Champion of Champions there is a 42.5 grand difference between winning and losing the final. Not all that many matches have that sort of money at stake, let alone a match with a single frame.

    20 grand to the runner up.

    So can expect it to get very cagey



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,551 ✭✭✭AllForIt


    I feel Holt lost his nerve there at the end, could well won that match had he potted that medium distance red.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,048 ✭✭✭✭HeidiHeidi


    I don't think nerve comes into it, in fairness! At least not in the conventional sense.

    Is Dale the last man standing who could become the first second-time winner? (In gone completely square- eyed at this stage, can't wait for it to be over, but can't stop watching all the same!)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,546 ✭✭✭Arthur Daley


    Favour the Belgian here, looks very comfortable, would be a big win for him, new to the tour.



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