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Grazing 2023

  • 23-01-2023 11:18am
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    Registered Users Posts: 1,608 ✭✭✭


    I went walking the fields at the weekend. Not for the faint-hearted! I was surprised to see good covers on some of the fields even though ground is saturated. They got slurry at the end of the season last year and it really shows. Plenty of flowers on the furze and buds starting to appear. There's a certain teaser spring in the air.



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  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 3,908 Mod ✭✭✭✭Siamsa Sessions


    Everything soaked here too but some decent covers as well. Foggy today but mild.

    I'm aiming to have weanlings out by day and in by night from around 10-Feb.

    Trading as Sullivan’s Farm on YouTube



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,608 ✭✭✭memorystick


    Land drying well. Was down in Wexford yesterday. A few milkers out and lads ploughing. Only a week and a half of silage left. Fingers crossed.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,262 ✭✭✭DBK1


    Midlands here and I let weanlings off to grass yesterday. Strong covers on a lot of my silage ground as cattle were off it earlier than expected due to the wet back end so I’ll get that all grazed first before getting slurry on it. The weather for the next week or 10 days looks reasonably dry so it seemed like a good opportunity to get them out. If the weather turns and they’ve to come back to the shed in a few weeks that wouldn’t bother me and won’t do them any harm either.



  • Registered Users Posts: 285 ✭✭smallbeef


    Walked the farm this afternoon as was tempted to leave out 18 or so stores. Ground is in good nick but disappointed with my covers. Will reassess in a month.



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,379 ✭✭✭Dunedin


    exact same here. Have 14 weanlings put a week now. Going grand and will keep them out of the weather holds and no big deal if I have to bring them in.



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  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 3,908 Mod ✭✭✭✭Siamsa Sessions


    I'm guessing there's no slowdown in thrive if/when they have to come back into the shed again?

    Trading as Sullivan’s Farm on YouTube



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,262 ✭✭✭DBK1


    There will be a slow down in thrive if they’ve to come back in but it’ll only slow down to what it would have been anyway if they were kept in all the time but you’d be after having the benefit of the time on grass before that. Ideally if they could be out by day and in by night it gives the best of both worlds but that’s not possible for me with a fragmented farm.

    It also kick starts the grass and you’ll have far better quality re growth, better utilisation of slurry as you won’t be putting it on stagnant overwintered grass and you’ll be able to start your second rotation earlier and with far higher quality grass than you’d have by keeping the stock in until March or April.



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 3,908 Mod ✭✭✭✭Siamsa Sessions


    Thanks for that.

    I'm lucky here in that I can put them out by day and in by night. I just need to decide where "in by night" means. They have been outwintered and there's no more bales outside in the field so I'd have to draw the bales out to them if that field was their "in by night" option. It's only about 100 yards from the shed so not a big draw.

    The other "in by night" option is to put them into a straw-bed shed and feed them silage there. This might be easier than drawing bales out to the field but it'll use more straw and for some reason I'm afraid it might soften them up or make them more prone to pneumonia after spending the winter outside.

    Trading as Sullivan’s Farm on YouTube



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,355 ✭✭✭✭Base price


    I'd keep the out if you can more for the potential pneumonia issue. I'd be reluctant to house them in if they were mine.



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 3,908 Mod ✭✭✭✭Siamsa Sessions


    That’s kinda what I’m leaning towards. Thanks

    Trading as Sullivan’s Farm on YouTube



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,355 ✭✭✭✭Base price


    If the weather was to turn really nasty (East wind and driving rain) over a prolonged period and they don't have any shelter/hedges than you will probably have to house them. If so then house them in the best ventilated shed that you have but fence off a sacrifice paddock that they can come and go too at their will.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,608 ✭✭✭memorystick


    I let out almost half of the bullocks yesterday. Very happy out. Only a week of bales left. A nice cover on some of the fields. Trying to remain positive



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,161 ✭✭✭893bet


    At least a 6 week winter left here…..! Heavy land is heavy. End of March on an excellent year.

    Expect 1st week April best case this year without a magic bag.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,291 ✭✭✭tanko


    What happened to having half your fodder left on February 1st. It’s a long time to the first of May.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,561 ✭✭✭Finty Lemon


    Let off Angus/Fr/Hereford weanlings this day two weeks and they are flying. Farm is in bone dry condition even though soil type is moderate heavy. If you wouldn't let stock out this Feb then then you never will I reckon.

    Is the rehousing pneumonia issue that big? Is it from experience or hearsay? I'm asking out-of naivety because only 3rd year at this type of stock.

    If it snows in March and I have to rehouse would a shot of RSV PI3 up the nose be beneficial? If I get 6 weeks of grass extra and that works, it will be a cheap option compared to meal and silage fed in the meantime?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,864 ✭✭✭mr.stonewall


    I had a bunch of 20 yearling heifers grazing what would be summer grazing/hay meadow this week. A few strip wires and very little damage. Ground amazed me at the condition. Its a mind set thing, and being flexible. Once you try getting out small numbers of stock early it will convert you. If you are grazing ground now that is not for meadows, it will have cover on it in early to mid April and that's even without the bag of sprinkles. Grazing grass grows grass. Last year I snuck 10 days of grazing in late Jan, but was housed up for most of Feb.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,850 ✭✭✭✭whelan2


    Heavy land here too. Cows out by day, amazed how dry the ground is. Grazing the wetter parts of the farm first. Im under no illusions though. Cows will be back in full time soon enough. Let 5 suckler cows and their calves out on outfarm. They have a creep feeder and a bale of silage in a rack in the field.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,850 ✭✭✭✭whelan2




  • Registered Users Posts: 1,608 ✭✭✭memorystick


    I bought too many and have some in since the middle of October. That month earlier really screwed me.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 342 ✭✭Hershall


    Normally get some blks out early to mid March they're about 600 kg so have to spread them out well I hope the weather is like this in a month's time.......



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  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 3,908 Mod ✭✭✭✭Siamsa Sessions


    Two groups of weanlings out by day and in by night here. They're on what can be wet ground but it's dry now so motoring thru it.

    I just need to make sure they don't graze too much now. Aiming to get around 1/3 grazed by 1-March.

    Trading as Sullivan’s Farm on YouTube



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,608 ✭✭✭memorystick


    Great response to fertiliser. Put out superNet last monday. Well greened up



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 581 ✭✭✭Conversations 3


    Got slurry out to most grazing paddocks 3 week's ago.

    I'm waiting on soil results to see what fertilizer to spread on top.

    If I graze cattle on silage ground now, when is best time to add slurry/fert and close off for June silage?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,509 ✭✭✭Jb1989


    How yous grazing now? Right rain today and for the week ahead. Snow has left fields wringing wet today. Will probably have to rehouse some suckler and newborns and maybe the weanlings and stores after that.



  • Registered Users Posts: 68 ✭✭ESetter


    Heavy fr stores went out on 27/2 but back in again yesterday, place is soaked after the snow. Yearlings still out but does not look good for next week. They are only walking grass into the ground.



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 3,908 Mod ✭✭✭✭Siamsa Sessions


    In and out with yearling cattle here. Week ahead looks messy so will decide on the morning if it’s worth letting them out or not for that day.

    One positive thou is the increased temp which is helping to green up grazed paddocks

    Trading as Sullivan’s Farm on YouTube



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,379 ✭✭✭Dunedin


    Rule of thumb allow for 2 units of nitrogen per day before cutting so if you shook 100 units of n then you can cut in 50 days (7 weeks). So if you want a mid June cut, fert could go on 1May and you’d be grand and slurry at least a week beforehand.

    all of the above depends on the growing conditions.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Gone brutal now. Cows out full time but I don’t know how long more I can keep them out. Worst march in 5 years easily.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,608 ✭✭✭memorystick


    Ground very wet and tank full. Sucked out 5 load of water already (it holds 23). Plenty of grass on some of the paddocks.



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  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 3,908 Mod ✭✭✭✭Siamsa Sessions


    Grass starting to really come here now but they’ll need canoes to get to it!

    The only saving grace is that the ground seems to dry out faster this time of year

    Trading as Sullivan’s Farm on YouTube



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,608 ✭✭✭memorystick


    Plenty of grass but ground is tender. Going to let some out tomorrow.




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,976 ✭✭✭✭Bass Reeves


    Soil temperatures are up to 3C above normal. Grass growing well.

    Be getting cattle out on any dry fields. The dry weather next week will give a chance to many to spread a bit of fertlizer.

    As we go over 10c frosty nights will stop impinging growth. Magic day could be two weeks ahead of normal.

    I expect to have everything out by early next week ( some land had gone in to Geese and Swan).

    Slava Ukrainii



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,617 ✭✭✭kk.man


    It's a pure swamp here...no chance of drying at all. There's not a four legged beast out for miles around.

    The only concession is if we do get a bit of dry weather ground will dry quickly.

    Not much point in having grass and you can't utilise it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,161 ✭✭✭893bet


    Same. Been a long bastard of a winter. Housed since early November and at least two weeks more assuming things dry up.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 629 ✭✭✭Silverdream


    This morning I let out some light cattle that I would like to clean off and improve on grass before selling on,

    going is definitely soft though so it'll need a weeks drying before the cows see the grass



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,078 ✭✭✭bogman_bass


    of you had a week of weather like today things would look a lot rosier



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,262 ✭✭✭Tileman


    Yea today some contrast to yesterday. That northern wind was blowing in on lambing shed yesterday and it was feeezing. Letting lambs out today and it’s lovely and mild



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,608 ✭✭✭memorystick


    Plenty of grass but ground soft. Tough spring on the tillage lads. Nothing down around here. Was in London earlier in the week. While returning I was shocked by the look of the crops as you approach the runway. A lot of visible clay between the rows. 2 solar farms up anyway so they’re fairly weather proof I’d imagine.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,976 ✭✭✭✭Bass Reeves


    Years back I ploughed two fields here to reseed. With one of them I think it has significantly reduced it performance. Now I would not have a great dept of top soil. The rest of the farm was just disced. I will never have a plough inside the gate again

    Slava Ukrainii



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 629 ✭✭✭Silverdream


    All out this morning bar a few straggler cows yet to calve. Turned out to be a long winter. Grass is flying over the last few days and the week ahead is promised to warm up even more



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,262 ✭✭✭Tileman


    Yea some difference in 24 hours. Fantastic morning out



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Have everything out full time except a few cows left to calf. My land has fully dried out and could take a fair amount of rain at this stage. I’ve found grass growth not hectic this year so far, cool wind isn’t helping that.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 629 ✭✭✭Silverdream


    Week ahead isn't promised great, turning cold again. There's no going back in but it would make grass management harder. Serious amount of flowers out now on the grass, anyone with hayfever like myself is suffering these days with all the pollen



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,608 ✭✭✭memorystick


    Just walked the silage ground today. Cattle off it a week and was hoping to spread slurry on it but it’s too spongy. Gaps are like quagmires. Terrible start to the summer.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,291 ✭✭✭tanko




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 629 ✭✭✭Silverdream


    Anyone else notice the poor growth over the last few days, we need a bit of heat or it'll be next impossible to keep grass ahead of them



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,509 ✭✭✭Jb1989


    Noticed some growth 2 days ago as the grass in the hedges came out well



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,886 ✭✭✭older by the day


    Spring has sprung I noticed this evening. There will be lads topping this time next week. I heard the cuckoo today



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,850 ✭✭✭✭whelan2


    Thankfully we didn't get the rain forecasted for yesterday got a group of maiden heifers out this morning



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    I was hoping for a bit of rain myself. Land went from swimming to very dry with the cool wind we got where I am, resulting in slow grass growth I think.



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