Bus curtailments in Tallaght

StreetLight

Here we go again.

Curtailments on Routes 27, 65B and 77A will see them operate as far as The Square only after 6pm from tonight:

https://m.independent.ie/regionals/dublin/dublin-bus-drivers-to-suspend-evening-services-to-parts-of-dublin-amid-grotesque-levels-of-violence-42280886.html

Ush1

Someones little darlings.

Jizique

Halloween comes early

Muller1991

From speaking to a few drivers in Ringsend, I honestly do not blame them. Safety is a priority. It also looks like they are prepared to sit this out for the long haul.

newmember2

I rang Tallaght Garda station one night in need of a Garda and was told there was only one car and it was dealing with a road traffic incident, and it had somewhere else to go after that before it could come to me. This is in Tallaght - with a population of 80,000 people.

MrMusician18

It's no surprise that drivers don't want to drive in west D̶o̶n̶b̶a̶s̶s̶ Dublin. Place has been a war zone and no action taken.

We needed a specialist transport police years ago.

john boye

I assume the 54A is included in this but I haven't seen it mentioned anywhere

Muller1991

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120098139#Comment_120098139

I wouldn't think so the 54A Turns left after the Square and into Whitestown and then on to Kiltipper to terminate. It mainly stays away from the problem areas.

No mention of the 54A in any of the news articles I've seen.

mikeybhoy

Why isn't the 175 affected that takes a similar routing to the DB routes diverted. Do GAI not want to not notify customers they are diverted or do GAI disregard the health and safety of its drivers and passengers.

Muller1991

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120098794#Comment_120098794

Might be something to do with the Union statement.

PokeHerKing

I live about a 1000 yards from the garda station as the crow flies.

Regularly while I sit in traffic with my fellow commuters I witness lads on scramblers/quad bikes tearing through red lights, down the wrong side of the old bawn road.

All a couple of hundred yards from the station, not a guard to be seen. But drive the n81 and you regularly see traffic stops 20 squad cars deep across both sides of the road.

They've plenty of guards to do the work they want them to do.

dfx-

I've been on many a 56A around Maplewood Shopping Centre with the bus egged or more recently the centre doors pelted and broken.

It's an ultra close range slow corner so a sitting duck for the lads hanging around the Super Valu there.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120099050#Comment_120099050

The newest PA model bus is run on that route too!

Muller1991

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120099015#Comment_120099015

I live just off the Old Bawn Road. Forever seeing scramblers and the likes heading on or adjacent to the Avonmore road either heading to Dodder Valley Park or towards the N81.

I was at a wedding in Naas a few weeks back and there was 2 ex DB Buses on as a Private hire. As we approached Tallaght the driver of the bus I was on would only stick to the main roads as there was groups of teens etc out after 3am pelting stones at buses.

where are the parents is the question I have to ask.

noc1980

In before the usual "hApPeNs In EvErY CiTy" nonsense. No it does not. Place is an absolute kip.

StreetLight

A press release on the Dublin Bus website at 5.55pm this evening provides for a revised routing. Basically all routes will operate to and from their respective termini, but will not serve the troublespots of Brookfield and Killinarden Heights.

https://www.dublinbus.ie/News-Centre/General-News/Routes-27-65b-and-77a-in-the-West-Tallaght-Area/

The Nal

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120099189#Comment_120099189

What parents? In Jobstown, 60% of families are single parent families. 50% male unempoyment etc. Its a toilet.

john boye

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120098389#Comment_120098389

Seems it was to be affected, at least earlier, but I'm not sure if the compromise has changed that.

It doesn't get it too bad but the area around the Killinarden House can be a bit spicy at times.

john boye

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120098794#Comment_120098794

The DB curtailments are driver action, not company action. I've no idea if GAI drivers are taking the same action. Don't fool yourself into thinking DB are doing the honorable thing here and the other company isn't.

thinkabouit

Hopefully A&E services to areas like that will follow.

nidek

I am a resident of the Jobstown area and a regular user of the 27 bus.

In the last few weeks the level of incidents on the bus has skyrocketed, from theft, yelling and disorderly conduct.

All of this was caused by a group of teenagers of about 8 people between the ages of 14-20. They were always the same.

It was something that was seen coming, nothing ever happens to them, sometimes the driver stopped the bus and called the garda, but little else.

It is a pity that for such a small group we have to affect all the neighbors. But I fully support the drivers, there should be 0 tolerance to anti-social behavior.

I also believe that the problem is not solved by enforcing the law only, you have to make initiatives in the community.

For example.

If there are young people who like to race motorcycles, encourage local competitions and the creation of racing teams.

If there are young people who like to fight, make boxing competitions.

In jobstown there is a giant jobstown park, why not make local events for young people?

Although I don't justify it, many of those teenagers don't do evil because they want to be criminals, it's because they don't know any other way to focus their energy and fun. Sometimes the family environment doesn't help either.

I think that the solution to these problems is a work between the city council, local associations and neighbors in the area.

iamwhoiam

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120097810#Comment_120097810

I think the opposite , kids whos parents couldnt care less about them , kids who parents are out drinking and on drugs and who dont give a damn about their kids .

mikeybhoy

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120099951#Comment_120099951

GAI drivers should be doing the same after all GAI drivers are represented by SIPTU and NBRU same as DB.

john boye

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120100480#Comment_120100480

Yeah it seems odd that they're not but who knows what's going on there.

dtothebtotheh

So many acronyms in this thread , after 12 years in Australia I really feel like I’m living in a different country to the one I left, what the hell is GAI???

Burt Renaults

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120100480#Comment_120100480

If SIPTU and the NBRU haven't referred to GAI drivers, it's because they haven't been complaining as much. The 175 doesn't serve any of the most badly affected areas. There have been isolated incidents on the 175 over the years (some particularly nasty), but even Fortunestown Lane, in spite of its reputation, is relatively quiet at night.

dtothebtotheh

Jesus Christ, who are the NBRU & GAI, I know who’s siptu is, but a google search doesn’t find me about others

Burt Renaults

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120100687#Comment_120100687

NBRU - National Bus and Rail Union (first thing that comes up when you Google "NBRU")

GAI - Go Ahead Ireland

Del2005

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120100296#Comment_120100296

If there are young people who like to race motorcycles, encourage local competitions and the creation of racing teams.

If there are young people who like to fight, make boxing competitions.

In jobstown there is a giant jobstown park, why not make local events for young people?

There's no places to legally ride motorcycles and NIMBYS won't allow it. There's is/was a lot of waste ground around the affected areas and none of the lads on scramblers every went near it to race. They rather doing wheelies up the middle of the road.

I know of several combat clubs in the area and they are willing to accept anyone. These people don't want to train they want to intimidate people

See what happened to the bike rental stations they installed, broke within a few hours. We can't have nice stuff until we sort out the scumbags

Gusser09

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120098039#Comment_120098039

Is Tallaght West Dublin? Not sure about that.

Burt Renaults

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120100737#Comment_120100737

Dismissing them as "scumbags" won't "sort out the scumbags". Bored kids mostly, the majority of whom will grow out of it.