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Long term plan for smoking ban

  • 13-12-2022 8:02pm

    "New Zealand has passed into law a plan to stamp out tobacco smoking over time by imposing a lifetime ban on young people buying cigarettes. 

    Tobacco will not be able to be sold to anyone born on or after 1 January 2009, so the minimum age for buying cigarettes will keep rising."

    I think it's a good idea, and I'm a person who smokes.



  • Registered Users Posts: 5,273 ✭✭✭xxxxxxl

    Cant see an issue I used to smoke now I vape. It's not like drinking were there are some positives.

  • Registered Users Posts: 4,089 ✭✭✭jackboy

    A bit slow. I think it would be better to just announce a year to ban them, maybe in three or four years time.

  • Registered Users Posts: 3,633 ✭✭✭dotsman

    And are you happy to pay the massive tax increase to cover the cost?

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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,153 ✭✭✭thinkabouit

    More of a fan of adult education rather than Government taken away more freedoms.

  • Registered Users Posts: 15,695 ✭✭✭✭Galwayguy35

    You would wonder why a law is even needed, its not something I gave a lot of thought to but with all the information out there about the dangers of smoking why on earth would any teenager even think about starting the habit.

  • Registered Users Posts: 10,492 ✭✭✭✭igCorcaigh

    I thought they did this years ago?

    But, anyway, as a smoker, I think this is a good idea. I don't agree with prohibition of any drug, but ultimately removing tobacco products from Centra, and the like, can only be good. But it needs to be done in a way which reduces the possibility of black markets.

    Maybe if someone wants to buy expensive cigars from online stores and stuff, ok.

  • Registered Users Posts: 775 ✭✭✭machaseh

    I doubt it will really lead to 0 percent of people born afer 2009 becoming smokers. Even though New Zealand is remote, illegal cigarette trafficking does exist there and will become a growing issue. Just like in Australia where smoking tobacco is super expensive so they just get illegal tobacco from nearby Indonesia.

    It might increase stigma of smoking tobacco as a bad thing but for some it could be seen as a status symbol, just like the usage of cocaine.

    Had they legalized cannabis, then maybe, but they didn't do that. The people voted against that in referendum.

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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,153 ✭✭✭thinkabouit

    What will they do to fill that tax void? They must have made a killing

  • Registered Users Posts: 1,153 ✭✭✭thinkabouit

    Na doubt it, I think those people will go black market or find something else to destroy their body’s with.

  • Registered Users Posts: 940 ✭✭✭Doc07

    Fantastic. Stamp it out, no reason to cave and just accept another generation of smokers.

    Something similar for bariatric surgery worth considering also.

  • Registered Users Posts: 940 ✭✭✭Doc07

    Unfortunately many never smokers vape instead and get addicted to that.

  • Registered Users Posts: 3,633 ✭✭✭dotsman

    Very little savings to be made on health. And any that can be made wouldn't be made for many years/decades. And easily dwarved by the massive tax and pension holes.

  • Registered Users Posts: 2,292 ✭✭✭PommieBast

    Wonder what will happen once those born that year get to vote. In any case doesn't NZ have one of the world's highest per-capita weed consumption?

  • Registered Users Posts: 4,089 ✭✭✭jackboy

    Hard to believe. Smoking is one of the biggest killers and destroyers of health.

  • Registered Users Posts: 4,177 ✭✭✭FishOnABike

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  • Registered Users Posts: 17,803 ✭✭✭✭Donald Trump

    I'd say the average cancer treatment costs the equivalent of a good few years of pensions.

  • Registered Users Posts: 6,793 ✭✭✭FunLover18

    Ireland set a goal of becoming tobacco free by 2025, I wonder how that's going. It hasn't been updated since 2019, the pandemic may have had an impact.

  • Registered Users Posts: 3,931 ✭✭✭joseywhales

    I smoked my first cigarette when I was 28 and for about 5 years then but I think that is the reason I found it easier to stop. Even knowing how harmful it is, I am not sure I agree with telling adults what they can and can't do to themselves.

  • It's not about adults. It's about taking a whole generation out of being able to legally purchase cigarettes.

    So they might not do it.

  • Registered Users Posts: 15,686 ✭✭✭✭Spanish Eyes

    Young people these days don't smoke, they vape. It's far cheaper and no harm done except to those who object to the smell of fruit flavoured vapour.

    Weed maybe the smoke of choice also instead of tobacco. That's probably cheaper too.

  • Registered Users Posts: 8,099 ✭✭✭AllForIt

    Exactly. So now the dealers have one more product to push.

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  • Registered Users Posts: 5,273 ✭✭✭xxxxxxl

    It's gas tbh the amount of pills and stuff old people end up on is staggering. Then you have dementia stuff like that. Current med tech is so advanced it's actually keeping us alive longer than the body currently functions properly. Obviously that may change in time.