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  • Registered Users Posts: 3,263 ✭✭✭howiya


    That's not a good argument for differentiating between different types of income. Income is income and should be taxed accordingly.



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,473 ✭✭✭Field east


    I am scratching my head over the following. The provision of accommodation is the provision of a service. It is set up and organised by the owners of suitable property and presented to the public at large for renting if they want to . Having sec that it is highly regulated by government with regards to living conditions, health and safety, minimum requirements re fridge, , space per person and ESPECIALLY what the property owner is allowed to charge for the service - currently a max of 2% a year but only if the market is increasing by 2 % or more - irrespective of inflation.

    My difficulty is how come the provision OF OTHER SERVICES have their charges for their services not CONTROLLED in the same way eg banking , all kinds of insurance, gas, electricity, petrol , diesel ., etc, etc.?

    The powers that be are trying to make out that the provision of accommodation is not a business therefor IT CAN BE TREATED DIFFERENTLY. ———- Come on tell me another one



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,161 ✭✭✭herbalplants


    Very good point. How come the other services are not controlled in the same manner.

    The current accommodation market is not functioning at all well fact. All these controls are killing the accommodation market and we need a good functional market.

    Living the life



  • Registered Users Posts: 287 ✭✭dennis72


    Services and replacements since covid have increased substantially

    If controls and rentcaps where removed tomorrow no investor would trust another assault on the sector

    Rtb last update buried any chance. Homeless lobby group running the show

    The reits have a tax concession only possible for rich funds.

    A landlord used to be called an accommodation service provider

    Now it a home provider



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,437 ✭✭✭FishOnABike


    They are. Take a taxi for example. There's a regulator, SPSV driver license, SPSV vehicle license, vehicle initial suitability inspection, roadworthness test, tax clearanr, all subject to periodic renewal. Fare structures are regulated. See any similarities?



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  • Registered Users Posts: 6,179 ✭✭✭Claw Hammer


    Absolutely and no one can find a taxi at night. If people can't make a living from providing a service or it becomes too burdensome to provide a service, they stop. They don't provide any service at all. Whenb is the penny going to drop?



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,437 ✭✭✭FishOnABike


    That's more to do with peak v average demand. Lots of drivers aren't going to sit around all day earning litte or nothing just to ensure everyone heading home after a night out can get a taxi between 2am and 3am without having to wait.

    Landlords aren't unique nearly every industry is reglated.

    Any type of manufacturing? There's environmental impact assessments, hazardous chemical storage and handling regulations, an encyclopedia of health and safety and working hours and conditions, waste management, product safety,...

    Pick any business / industry and it's regulated. Why should landlords expect any different?



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Regulation when it comes to safety and standards are important and welcome.

    It's the over reaching nature of current legislation that removes any control over the property by the assets owners and removing the ability to set the price that is unwelcome. I know of very few businesses where the state has interfered to this extent, contracts between the two parties would define the terms. Taxi fares are set but whenever they look to increase fares they get the regulators approval, the pricing structure for landlords has not been reviewed since RPZs were put in place.



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