The Traitors

Oscar_Madison

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123103542#Comment_123103542

It might give Paul Brady’s singing career a boost if he can sing the title track 😀

Fletwick

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123104833#Comment_123104833

Dude, just because you type something, doesn't negate the glaringly obvious. The final group are the ones shown to be 2 of the 3 names for final consideration for murder.

bren2001

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123105031#Comment_123105031

I've not disputed those up for murder are last, I've said it offers little to no insight for the faithfuls as traitors are put in the final grouping too. I also am skeptical of if the "3 up for murder" are really the 3 being considered. I suspect they pretty quickly decide who is going and then they are the producers put 2 other people up there. I reckon they pretty much have to discuss everyone (maybe not early days).

As I said, you've read and addressed nothing I've written. You've just reiterated your own point.

salmocab

I’d suspect that the last 3 in is shot several times to not let them know who the 3 were, the knock probably helps continuity. Also all the flowers along the table would help with the continuity too as you can’t see the plates and food properly

angel eyes 2012

I would love to watch the US Traitors starting tonight on BBC3, however it's not available on our package, we are with Virgin. Is there any other way to view it, does it have to be a vpn and then BBC iplayer?

Any suggestions?

JP Liz V1

Alexander's charity donations

https://www.radiotimes.com/tv/entertainment/reality-tv/the-traitors-alexander-mencap-donations-boost-newsupdate/

Oscar_Madison

Has any other series including America/Australia actually had more than two in the “final”?
I think it would be good if you were forced to have a minimum of 3 and the game ends there- it would mean a greater focus by the participants on rooting out the traitor - if you’re convinced your buddy is a faithful, then that’s as good as it gets- all others get voted off.

I think something has to be done with the ending - last year was superb but that’s how the cookie crumbled- this year it was anti-climactic, In my view mainly due to producer intervention with the seer- and also people not revealing who they were.

I can’t think of what would make it better though - I’d love to see say 4 faithfuls winning together but I don’t see how that’s possible .

Penn

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123107586#Comment_123107586

I think a couple of things worked against the ending this year; mainly Frankie pretty bizarrely choosing to use the Seer ability on Charlotte even though there was only the smallest doubt about Charlotte compared to the others and she more so wanted to confirm Charlotte was a Faithful, and ended up picking the one Traitor in the game. Then coupled with them not revealing if they were Faithful or Traitor in the final meant they wouldn't be able to confirm whether Frankie or Charlotte were telling the truth, and still had doubts about Alexander. Then unfortunately, it all came down to Leanne who just wasn't someone you could root for.

If they were making one change next series, I'd like to have the Seer power be used earlier (maybe around mid-point of the game), and the Seer picks someone to see if they're Faithful or Traitor but doesn't actually meet them. It means the Traitors don't know if the Seer has identified one of them, and the Faithfuls don't know if they can trust the Seer because they could be lying. The Seer could even identify a Traitor, but then tell everyone they picked someone else's name and it showed they were Faithful, so as to not put a target on their own back, while the Seer starts trying to subtley raise suspicions about the real Traitor. And at the mid-point of the game, the odds on whether the Seer picks a Faithful or Traitor are different compared to just before the final episode.

Kolido

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123107629#Comment_123107629

Tbh, I would just drop the power completely, there is enough suspicion in the game as it is. However, if you were to use it I agree keeping it secret might work better and I'd even go further, keep who the seer is secret. You could then get a scenario where the seer is killed before they reveal anything and later in the game a traitor chances their arm and claims it. You are kind of getting into werewolf/mafia territory then though

Necro

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123107629#Comment_123107629

Just go full parlour Werewolf and give the Faithful a Seer role from the start. Seer has to balance trying to pick when to reveal their knowledge versus dodging nightly murders and banishments. There's a metric TONNE of roles they can use for Faithfuls that would shake up the game massively

Penn

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123107683#Comment_123107683

Yeah one thing I was thinking that maybe the Traitors one night get to pick who the Seer is, meaning they have to try balance it with who wouldn't suspect them enough to pick one of them, but is also someone who the other Faithfuls might not trust enough.

Galwayguy35

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123106015#Comment_123106015

It's not great, the UK one is a lot better.

Meauldsegosha

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123107586#Comment_123107586

Series 1 of the UK had 4 in the final. One got banished and the three split the prize.

Season 2 of the Australian show had 4 in the final and 3 left at the end. There was a great twist at the end of this show.

Oscar_Madison

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123107883#Comment_123107883

Thanks for that - I guess each show is unique but it’s clear that any producer intervention will have foreseen and unforeseen consequences - it’s probably about perfecting these to provide the greatest tension at the end

JP Liz V1

I would like the shield to protect from banishment or murder, let the individual who got the shield reveal if they want they have it and what they wanted to be protected from

Oscar_Madison

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123107972#Comment_123107972

And maybe have it until they’re banished or murdered? And maybe have 2 -3 shields going at any one time - so if you choose murder the shield protects you but you then lose it after that night and it keeps going to someone else, always- even at the final round 🤪

Fletwick

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123106226#Comment_123106226

Alexander was the best faithful ever.

JP Liz V1

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123108900#Comment_123108900

I think being honest and a team player cost him as arriving late in the game (returning) the others never gave him a chance, he really was good hearted

JP Liz V1

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123107685#Comment_123107685

I do you hope you applied for the Irish one, yourself and the missus should do it

Necro

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123109214#Comment_123109214

Didn't actually. Didn't see the casting call in time. I had applied for this season of the UK one but never heard anything back.

fritzelly

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123109225#Comment_123109225

They'd be scared you out the traitors the first night

Necro

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123109290#Comment_123109290

Ha, dunno about that now but I reckon they don't really want people with let's say… experience in playing similar games. They'd be more interested in the sob stories and the likes.

Should have just faked a London accent even though I'm from Ireland seeing as that seems to be how Charlotte got in😂

Penn

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123109091#Comment_123109091

I think another thing working against him was that he was a bit too diplomatic and careful with his words (natural given his personality and job). Trouble is in a game where so many decisions tend to be based on emotion and "feelings", such a person can come across as too careful and possibly trying to manipulate people.

Whereas people like Leanne who shouted everyone down if they even look at her wrong, well she's surely a Faithful.

yerwanthere123

I'm very curious about the upcoming Irish version. My fear is that it'll be half full of 'celebrity' and influencer type people, just like the New Zealand, American and Australian (series two) versions were.

JP Liz V1

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123109388#Comment_123109388

Leanne was a loud mouth bully with him when he would dare mention her as a traitor but fine for her to do it to him, I wanted him to snap and shout at her but he stayed "diplomatic", I would loved to have seen Fozia have a go at her

Meauldsegosha

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123109411#Comment_123109411

It was an open application process so anyone could apply. Irish "celebrity" and "influencer" are wasted on me because I don't know any of them 😀 It's one of the reasons I don't watch dancing with the stars.

I would like to see the US version without the reality TV celebs on it. The various groups tend to stick together eg. the housewives, the survivor players, big brother players.

bren2001

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123107972#Comment_123107972

Conceptually, a shield is useful against someone trying to murder you and not useful if a group of people wish to banish you.

I do think a device to protect against banishment makes sense but it should be very rare and difficult to get i.e. sacrificing money for the pot.

Necro

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123109411#Comment_123109411

If the producers are smart they'll be watching the other versions, taking the best bits off them and melding it together with some of the unique Irish charm. Reading some of the commentary on it here would also be quite beneficial.

It could be very good. It could also be awful, like you say it'll be very interesting to see what it pans out like.

I'd hazard a guess it won't be anyway near as bad as the Australian one though… nothing could be😂

JP Liz V1

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123109411#Comment_123109411

Will the usuals like Paddy Smyth and Miriam Mullins etc., be on, I hope also no "influencer celebs"

I think the BBC celeb version is later this year and lots of real celebs rumoured for it

Kolido

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123109443#Comment_123109443

Yeah I dont like the US casting, like all their tv shows it looks highly scripted and ott. You just have to look at the facial expressions they make, its ridiculously edited

It does get better as it goes though and the traitor backstabbing is fun