If/when we "run out of time" to fix the planet, will we still have the draconian measures

mohawk

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119896088#Comment_119896088

You raise some interesting points. At the end of the day when it comes to farming, food is a necessity. Flying is not.

I absolutely can not get behind things like cutting down the Amazon so they can export beef. Unfortunately Ireland has already been deforested.

I would love to see an in-depth review of farmland in Ireland. Bad land with poor output that needs tons of fertilisers could surely be put to better use being rewilded. Traditionally there was a reason for rotation and land to be left fallow. Industrial farming does need to take a look at itself. We do also need to consider food security going into an uncertain future. We don’t need tons of fancy ice cream, but we will need more crops instead especially as the climate starts to seriously affect supply lines

It is easier to criticise industries such as the fast fashion industry that in reality aren’t as necessary as agriculture.

BattleCorp

I'll stick my head up above the parapet and say that us (Ireland) making tremendous sacrifices by doing everything to prevent climate change is a waste of time when any good we do is undone multiple times over by China, USA, India etc.

I agree that we do need to change but it's futile while the big guys continue to pollute on a scale way above the levels we produce.

dxhound2005

We can blame our former rulers for all the trees disappearing. They were nearly all gone by the year 1700. We have made good strides in reforestation since independence. We are ahead of England and the North, but behind Scotland and Wales. The 11% does not take account of a further 7% of land area covered by hedges and individual trees.

"Since the foundation of the State, forest cover in Ireland has grown from 1.4% of the land area to the current 11% (or 770,020 hectares), excluding inland water bodies. The current level of forest cover is estimated to be at its highest level in over 350 years (DAFM, 2021)."

j2

Great question, had me nut! If you believe the extinction rebellion type predictions, aren't we already in that position right now? In the sense that China/India/Russia aren't about to stop producing CO2 at any point so the damage will inevitably continue while we run around fretting about our 0.009% contribution to global emissions. I don't believe that we're headed for apocalypse personally and I don't think I'd care even if we were, but we can do precisely the square route of jack sh1t about it here in Ireland anyway, so all our measures are futile regardless of whether we've run out of time or not, but we're still doing them and getting heavier into them. So the answer is yes, we'd have draconian measures and people crying about emissions and building ever more complex and annoying cycle lanes even in a desert hell-scape where the flesh melts off your bones if you're expose to sunlight for 30 seconds.

Mister Vain

The young wans should be out partying while they can instead of throwing soup at paintings and gluing themselves to walls.

Fandymo

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058272329/if-when-we-run-out-of-time-to-fix-the-planet-will-we-still-have-the-draconian-measures

Not while there’s money to be made out of “climate change”

Fandymo

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119892197#Comment_119892197

Look at the Maldives, they’re under so much pressure they’re reclaiming land FROM the sea and building 5 new airports.

The scaremongering is laughable.