World Cup 2022

ShamoBuc

All Chat, Tips, Bets, Offers etc can go in here.

365 have the Outright Betting as follows ....

I fancy Argentina to be there or there abouts but it really is a bit of guess as there are so many variables as always, particularly this year.

The Groups are as follows.....

ShamoBuc

First weeks Fixtures.......

Sunday 20th November

Group A

Qatar V Ecuador - (16:00) - BBC One

Monday 21st November

Group A

Senegal V Netherlands - (16:00) - ITV

Group B

England V IR Iran - (13:00) - BBC One

United States of America V Wales - (19:00) - ITV

Tuesday 22nd November

Group C

Argentina V Saudi Arabia - (10:00) - ITV

Mexico V Poland - (16:00) - BBC One

Group D

Denmark V Tunisia - (13:00) - ITV

France V Australia - (19:00) - BBC One

Wednesday 23rd November

Group E

Germany V Japan - (13:00) - ITV

Spain V Costa Rica - (16:00) - ITV

Group F

Morocco V Croatia - (10:00) - ITV

Belgium V Canada - (19:00) - BBC One

Thursday 24th November

Group G

Switzerland V Cameroon - (10:00) - ITV

Brazil V Serbia - (19:00) - BBC One

Group H

Uruguay V Korea Republic - (13:00) - BBC One

Portugal V Ghana - (16:00) - ITV

Friday 25th November

Group A

Qatar V Senegal - (13:00) - BBC One

Netherlands V Ecuador - (16:00) - ITV

Group B

Wales V IR Iran - (10:00) - BBC One

England V United States of America - (19:00) - ITV

Saturday 26th November

Group C

Poland V Saudi Arabia - (13:00) - ITV

Argentina V Mexico - (19:00) - ITV

Group D

Tunisia V Australia - (10:00) - BBC One

France V Denmark - (16:00) - ITV

munster87

I'm tempted by both the Spanish and the Netherlands for outright bets as I think there might be some value in both.

The South American sides are a bit short in the betting for me, as has been common in the past, but it's 20 years now since one of them managed it.

Spain looked good at the Euros when they weren't favoured beforehand and have some young players added this time around who could have a big say.

The Dutch have some great players in the spine of the team, Gakpo looks ready to explode too. Goalkeeper could be an issue though with a distinct lack of experience.

Who the goals are going to come from could be an issue for both sides too...

Who are you guys favouring and why?

The real mccoy 91

Been building a bit of a portfolio mainly with freebies for a few months now so will do a quick rundown

Brazil 9/2 outright winner

Brazil to beat France in final 25/1

Brazil to beat Spain in final 50/1

Neymar player of the tournament 12/1

Lartauro Martinez top scorer 28/1

Memphis depay top scorer 33/1

Jamal Musiala young player of the tournament 7/1

Iran Cameroon Costa rica all to finish bottom of their group 5/2

Iran to score 0 goals and to lose all 3 group games 9/1

FLOOPER

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119878889#Comment_119878889

Are RTÉ not showing some if not all matches )as much as possible).

it is an Oirish forum after all.

Maybe it was posted originally by someone not of this Island?

But still!

ShamoBuc

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119882665#Comment_119882665

I copied a post from the Soccer Forum - I'm sure RTE and maybe Virgin are covering the games too.

Hardly an issue in fairness considering we use Bet365, SkyBet, William Hill, Sky Sports, BT Sports etc all the time.

TipsyMcStagge

I'll be having a punt on Spain to win it Gavi to be young player of the tournament and a little punt on Brazil to win and H Kane to be top scorer at 40s.

famagusta

Had a few nibbles today

Laurturo martinez top scorer 25/1

Darwin Nunez top scorer 50s and Mitrovic at 66s, both ew, hopefully the place part cops.

Argentina winner and Martinez top scorer, 100/1 with 365, very good price

main bet, over 30 goals between brazil, france, argentina 10/11

I was going to launch on the card markets but... under 9.5 Red cards at 10/11, there was only 4 in last world cup and 10 in 2018. Its hard to know with VAR and the standard of referees so i chickened out

Chesty08

With Uruguay coming 3rd in South America & the 2 favs being from that continent you’d be expecting the 3rd fav to be close in betting. 50/1 is good value.

Their 2022 form has been very impressive too. Uruguay / Nunez at 500s for the double.

Will be starting off tomorrow with Qatar 1-0, Almoez Ali 1st scorer.. 25/1. Will do singles too.

ssshhh123

Nunez/Uruguay @200_1 now. Still might be a punt

mailburner

Kane top scorer 10/1 hills

England to beat Iran evens

Loafing Oaf

My main interest is in the lowest scoring team market because (a) it gives me an interest in a lot of the lower-profile group games and (b) I like a market where a tie is a possibility, half a loaf better than no bread and all that. On Iran, Costa Rica, Saudi Arabia, Tunisia, Canada and Australia.

Also on: Netherlands highest scoring team

Golden Ball: Neymar, Pedri

Higest team scorer accas: Al-Shehri (Saudi)/Maehle (Denmark) and Maclaren (Australia)/David (Canada)/Suarez (Uruguay)/Vlahovic (Serbia)

Top league scorer double Ronaldo (Prem) [not sure if this is still strictly accurate but presumably they would honour it]/Lewandowski (La Liga)

Group stage acca: Brazil first-Cameroon last/Netherland first-Qatar last/Ghana

and Sky Request-a-bets:

Kane to score 4+ goals, Mbappe and Neymar each to score 3+ goals, Havertz and Nunez each to score 2+ goals & Modric to score 1+ goals @ 50/1

Argentina to win the World Cup, Messi to win the Golden Boot and Messi to win the Golden Ball @ 66/1

Messi to win the Golden Ball and Lautaro Martinez 3+ goals @ 16/1

Eriksen, Aleksandar Mitrovic and Nunez each to score 3+ goals @ 125/1

last one looks a great shout to me if Mitro is fit & firing...

mailburner

Any thoughts on Equador today at around 11/8?

Odds seem rather big to me

ShamoBuc

Ecuador to have a Red card at 7/1 Qatar might get a little 'help'.

eh i dunno

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119897265#Comment_119897265

Probably because of the match fixing rumours going around of Qatar to win 1-0

Schwiiing

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119897265#Comment_119897265

Read somewhere that the host nation has never lost the opener since 2006 when the 'tradition' began. As ShamoBuc said 'expect Qatar to get plenty of help'.

franglan

Morata 7/4 top Spanish goal scorer.

6/5 Anyone but the hosts today.

Fitz*

Not surprised to see that PP have locked the team captains in the card markets.

Kane, Bale, VVD etc are all suspended, because of the threat of being booked instantly for wearing the 'OneLove' armband.

Canonfan

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119900387#Comment_119900387

I see Kane to be booked at 7/1 Boylesports, 7/2 at PP. Not sure if it's a good bet.

rekluse

Suprised Wales are 9/4 vs USA. Am I missing something obvious ?

The real mccoy 91

Bergwijn over 1.5 shots and over 0.5 shots on target 1/1

Same bet with gakpo 10/11

Combining both at 7/2 aswell all with 365

mailburner

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119901762#Comment_119901762

Coming on here to say same

way overpriced for me

The real mccoy 91

Zielinski and cash backing both for motm as they look overpriced at 16/1 and 50/1 with 365

DJIMI TRARORE

Anybody know what price SA were to bear Argentina, purely inquisitive, wouldn't think any bookie would have to pay out

Sleepy Joseph

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119909092#Comment_119909092

22/1

The real mccoy 91

Happy to get my feet wet today feels their is some decent prices on offer.

0-0 half time score ziyech over 0.5 shots and both teams receive a card 14/5

Tough game to call the first one imo morrocco could be underrated by the market but expecting a cageyish first half with Croatia looking to control the game from the middle and it being a slow burner. Taking higher shot line on ziyech as singles he has proved at Chelsea he wants to shoot at every opportunity adding a small play on him scoring from outside the box at 11/1

Germany win and over 1.5 and over 0.5 cards in the game 4/5

All signs point to them playing with the handbrake off and filling half the team with their Bayern contingent important to get 3 points on the board with Spain up next.

Half time 0-0 5/2

Spain historically have struggled to break down the low block. Costa Rica will be setting up with 10 behind the ball at all times and make life as hard as possible for the Spanish. Has the feel of a game we have seen before with Spain starting slow in a big tournament was also surprised to read that they only won 1 game in 90 minutes in the euros despite looking like the best team for most of the tournament. 16/1 looks a bit of value for 0-0 too. Also nibbling at the Costa Rica double chance and navas to be booked 60/1 and Costa Rica to win with navas to be booked 230/1.

Btts both teams receive a card and over 2.5 goals in Canada Belgium 5/2

Not massively keen on Belgium for the tournament as a whole but this is a bit of an ideal opener with canada been quite vulnerable at the back while carrying plenty of attacking threat. Surprised to see that the old spurs duo of alderweireld and vertonghen at the back is who Belgium are relying on to keep the door closed Johnathan David is very good and after being touted with moves to bigger clubs than lille in the summer will be aiming to put himself in the shop window on this stage. 10/3 on him bagging anytime looks big to me so will have a play on that too.

francie81

Anyone else agree that those bet builders are the worse ever to come on stream, only for those free bets I never touch them otherwise 🙄

TipsyMcStagge

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119910593#Comment_119910593

Unless I get a free bet I don't go near them.

francie81

And the fact that they are usually limited markets on them…gimmick

francie81

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119910636#Comment_119910636

And the fact that they are usually limited markets on them…gimmick

mailburner

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119910593#Comment_119910593

waste of time, I only take the free ones although occasionally I'll double up with card bookings.

francie81

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119910671#Comment_119910671

Yeah and I think some offer a min of 2 markets skybet for example 👍

ShamoBuc

Bet builders - combining 2 or 3 players to get cards with 1 or 2 low odds markets would be the only one for.

Taking pp bet of De Bruyne sot in each half at 6/1, too tempting.

Edit - only 1 second half sot, his worst game in years.

Backstreet Moyes

Anyone doing well at all?

I dont think iv got a bet up yet.

I dont think any of the enhanced specials that look good have come up.

I like the 4 favorites today but their have been so many upsets so far.

ShamoBuc

De Bruyne/Davies sot double pp special came up last night, but most others failing.

Taken the 4 obvious sides to win aswell today just for interest, nothing else standing out.

TipsyMcStagge

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119914286#Comment_119914286

Got Valencia and gakpo up as first goalscorers but ever since Lewandowski missed that peno my luck has tanked.

mailburner

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119914286#Comment_119914286

2 card bets up and a single on england at evens but all downhill since, very few cards to speak of in the past day or two

only breaking even after an ok start

gonna do a few no goalscorer bets on some of these african games, seem to be hard to beat

callaway92

Just on the bet builders - Bookies wouldn't be pushing them so much if they weren't absolutely cleaning up off them

Stay away

rekluse

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119901762#Comment_119901762

11/10 tomorrow vs Iran? Will double with Senegal for a 5/2 ish punt.

mailburner

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119918031#Comment_119918031

Exactly what I have in mind

Headshot

Wales v Iran - To Score a Header Kieffer Moore 11/2

rekluse

I

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119918031#Comment_119918031

I give up ! Can't get anything right in these group games at all.

callaway92

Can't resist Netherlands at 17/20 - Paddy Power

First bet of the tournament

ShamoBuc

Saka and Bellingham SOT double at 4/1 pp is my bet for tonight.

Edit - Maguire at 9/2 to be shown a card, USA will see a lot of ball and he can't turn to save his life.

jack747

Not sure why but I fancy the US for some reason . 5er at 13/2 for interest !!

NATLOR

Over 1.5 goals in the England game boosted to evens bet 365

mailburner

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119921195#Comment_119921195

They should be ahead

look big still

callaway92

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119920538#Comment_119920538

Uhm. I’m gonna sit back and no more bets for the tournie

chases0102

Messi SOT EVS on PP

rekluse

Constitution Hill 210 Newcastle and Mbappe Goal or Assist 2/1 with PP.

ssshhh123

Got on this