Volvo EX90

useless

Volvo have launched their new EV, the EX90. Disappointingly similar to the XC90 on the outside (its a nearly 8 year old design), quite different on the inside, promising 600km on a single charge and 100kms+ of charge within 10 minutes. Havent seen any pricing yet but I expect it'll be monstrously expensive and still sell like hot cakes.

useless

Dammit I forgot the links and I cant work out how to edit posts on new Boards, apologies:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WzkVAGPXVyY&list=RDCMUCaY-4ndPCRKp60qXF7zBJ0w&start_radio=1

More detail at https://www.volvocars.com/uk/ (volvocars.com redirects to the irish site for me- their most important launch in years and they havent bothered updating their website...)

carsfan2

96k sterling in the uk so god only knows what it’ll cost here.

mailforkev

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119855611#Comment_119855611

Total speculation, but looking at how rival electric SUVs convert from GBP to EUR, I'd say roughly EUR 110k.

Supposedly there will be a single motor version for around GBP 75k, so maybe starting around EUR 86/87k.

A fair chunk of change but they won't be able to keep them in the showrooms, the XC90 is very popular around here.

cannco253

https://insideevs.com/news/621004/2024-volvo-ex90-revealed-key-points/

“Like the Polestar 3, the EX90 can charge at a maximum 250 kW, which is unusual for a 400-volt vehicle given that all rivals that offer similar charging speeds do so by using an 800-volt architecture. The secret, though, according to Lutz Stiegler, Volvo’s lead for batteries and electric propulsion, is in the higher amperage that it can take - 600 amps is what allows for the higher charging speed without resorting to 800 volts.

Not all CCS chargers can deliver the necessary amperage - as they are usually limited to around 350 amps - but some fast chargers do offer more and it’s with those chargers that the EX90 (or Polestar 3) will be able to reach its peak rate of charge. According to the manufacturer, when connected to such a charger, it takes 30 minutes to bring the state of charge from 10 to 80 percent; 10 minutes of charging add 112 miles (180 km).”

First I’ve heard of this (on a 400 volt architecture).

digiman

I was hoping it would have been a similar price to the XC90 hybrid. But it starts at 76k in UK so if that is anything to go by I'd say it could be around the 120k mark here. I'd love to get one for the missus, 7 seater not essential for us, but it has been very handy on numerous occasions. There is nothing else around with 7 seats in that size that I'd be able to afford or be interested in buying. I love the XC90, the only thing that put me off when I had one for a day test drive was that the infotainment is not up there with the BMWs. Hopefully they improve that in the EX90.

AidenL

That looks nice actually.

joe1303l

If they can land a 2wd 7seat version here for €80-€85k, they’ll sell like hot cakes. No other 7 seat EV option with decent range and proper 3rd row seating available.

Gumbo

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119858652#Comment_119858652

Doesn’t Tesla offer 250kw charging at 400v too. Model 3 for example.

joe1303l

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119863875#Comment_119863875

Tesla make great EV’s but nothing in the current range are a rival for the EX90

Gumbo

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119864797#Comment_119864797

Not comparing the cars here. Just the charging architecture. The OP said nothing else charges at 250kw over 400v to which the Tesla does.

No need to turn this into yet another Tesla V ANother EV brand.

But let’s hope Volvos dismal reliability records can improve in their EV offerings as I actually like volvo cars.

joe1303l

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119864803#Comment_119864803

Absolutely, plenty busy Tesla threads on here already. Good to see another EV option for folks that need 7 proper seats.

By comparison the Mercedes EQB is tiny small in the rear row and it’s range is pretty ordinary too for what it costs.

Gumbo

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119866900#Comment_119866900

€120k

I doubt we will see loads on the roads here though.

joe1303l

Hope the €120K isn’t right, 2wd version will surely be a good bit cheaper than the launch model. Haven’t seen a price list yet for Ireland.

unkel

@cannco253 - "Like the Polestar 3, the EX90 can charge at a maximum 250 kW, which is unusual for a 400-volt vehicle given that all rivals that offer similar charging speeds do so by using an 800-volt architecture."

That's not true. Teslas can charge at 250kW and they only have 400V architecture.

joe1303l

Point made earlier...

unkel

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119867658#Comment_119867658

Aye, by @Gumbo. You seemed to dismiss / deflect this point though.

Also Chinese cars like Volvo and Polestar seem to come up with hugely overpriced EVs like this Volvo EX90 and the Polestar 3. They seriously are not worth spending a 6 figure sum on. They seem to think they are competing with top tier car makers like BMW, Mercedes and Tesla. But they are not.

Gumbo

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119867643#Comment_119867643

Time will tell but it will be extremely overpriced for a Volvo. We might see some on the south Dublin school run.

joe1303l

EV’s are currently overpriced for sure. Most people paying 6 figures for a car will want a prestigious german car brand not something made in china.

Gumbo

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119868035#Comment_119868035

Madness as the parts on that German assembled car all come from china 🤣🤣

But yes, if I was spending €100k on a car it would be a Porsche Taycan. None of the others from bmw or Audi can match it.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119868412#Comment_119868412

Bit like Ionity, the Taycan pricing suddenly looks very competitive.

Gumbo

https://youtu.be/YrPUcOZWXOM

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joe1303l

Still no sign of prices from Volvo Ireland. UK high spec launch version available to preorder at £96k, indications that base model versions to follow at £75k approx.

Gumbo

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119875300#Comment_119875300

It’s it’s anything to go buy, the Porsche Taycan starts at £75kg sterling also in the UK.

The base Taycan in Ireland is €96k so that would put the base Volvo at around that price. €100k again you add dealer related charges.

Dasein

well, it'll all be about the guaranteed value - very few paying 90k cash for anything in ireland

the XC90 is a good car and that's why you see a lot of them ... for me I'll be really interested to see what LIDAR brings to the table, pretty impressive that they have it on there and are confident that it can deliver ... I

joe1303l

Hopefully Volvo Ireland won’t be as greedy as whoever has the Porsche franchise here. If trim levels are similar to the current XC90, the base model should be well equipped and will make up the majority of sales here.

Gumbo

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119875892#Comment_119875892

It’s a €100k jeep. Don’t hold your breath unfortunately.

Soarer

That's a good looking car.

joe1303l

Spoke to a dealer in Cork, still no word on pricing and rhd models not expected here until Q3 next year. Yet he has taken several deposits from customers who are keen to have the first ones. Mad stuff.

Gumbo

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119892959#Comment_119892959

It would be very interesting if you share the dealer details (Is it JPMG?) as the biggest Volvo dealer in Ireland which are based in Dublin, are not taking any orders whatsoever.

They have no official idea on pricing and won’t have a dealer demo until late Q2/Early Q3 with customers orders for early 2024.

joe1303l

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119894152#Comment_119894152

Yes, good guess. It wasn’t described as an order deposit but more like a refundable booking deposit for a build slot as they will have a limited allocation of when the order books open. Cork city suburbs seem to have a significant population of repeat XC90 customers for the last 20 years. This cohort are going to be the first to jump for the EX90 whenever they can get them. There wont be too many towbars on them either.

digiman

Was looking the Belgium and Italian websites and the prices there around €120k when you add similar options to what the UK Ultra spec comes in at. I suspect we will see similar prices here, huge huge money at that stage.

Widdensushi

Back in 2016 xc90 prices were starting at 61k, they have increased alot since for what is basically the same car.

Oafley Jones

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119926853#Comment_119926853

It was a couple grand more than that, but that's was for the poverty spec FWD 225bhp D4. T8 (400 bhp back then) starting around 80k with feck all spec, going up to 100k plus for loaded inscription models.

joe1303l

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119927555#Comment_119927555

€63,450 based on this review but the majority sold were probably €70k+

https://www.completecar.ie/car-reviews/article/Volvo/XC90/XC90_D4_FWD/991/6016/2016-Volvo-XC90-D4-FWD-review.html

carsfan2

The D4 fwd was only 190 bhp from memory and the D5 awd was 225bhp. The price in mid 60’s rings a bell as I was in the market for one of these but ended up with a x5 bmw that was about 70k on the road at the time. I thought I was spending a fortune at the time🙄.

it’s unreal how expensive all cars have got in the last few years.

digiman

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119926841#Comment_119926841

There is only 1 model choice and it's the fully specced top of the range model at €117,910 and metallic paint is an extra €1250 and there is a twin motor upgrade for €5,000 which makes the 0-100 4.9s instead of 5.9s.

Unless the PCP rates and GMFV for this are spectacular or I win the lotto I won't be buying. It will certainly push away people who have XC90s today to look elsewhere. But it's the only decent sized 7 seater on the market really other than Tesla Model X.

joe1303l

Crazy money. Just another reason for people to keep driving diesel in that segment of the market.

VikingG

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119987105#Comment_119987105

Yes crazy money - but you cant buy a new diesel XC90 anymore - and the Hybrid ones are €100K now anyway

joe1303l

Fair point but you could buy a lot of petrol for €18K

carsfan2

https://www.volvocars.com/ie/cars/ex90-electric/

Mad money. Where are all the people for these 100k plus cars?

joe1303l

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120060749#Comment_120060749

It is mad money but even €50K doesn’t buy much of an EV in Ireland. A lot of these EX90’s will probably be company owned or leased rather than private buyers.

Dasein

all about the GFV

useless

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120060749#Comment_120060749

South County Dublin

Montenotte

Taylors Hill

Wherever is posh in Limerick 😀

https://www.revenue.ie/en/corporate/information-about-revenue/statistics/income-distributions/stats/Income-Tax-breakdown-by-Gross-Income.aspx

There are 35,000 'Taxpayer units' (either individuals or jointly assessed couples) making over 200k per annum, according to Revenue. Thats a lot of disposable income to spend on nice new cars...

Also, there's a mindset change here- these aren't 100k plus cars- they're cars with monthly payments of about 1500 euro that plenty of high earning people with chunky car allowances are comfortable paying. I'd wager there's nobody bar a lotto winner going into a Volvo dealership and writing a cheque for 120k for a new EX90.

As for the EX90 itself- would I buy one? No, only because I can't afford it 😀

the_amazing_raisin

If I'm being honest, if I did win the lotto I'd sooner buy one of these than a Porsche or Ferrari or some high spec Merc or BMW

I feel like I've just learned something about myself and I should be depressed now 😱

Casati

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119928446#Comment_119928446

D5 Inscription was €77,450 -which probably was the most popular and the T8 Inscription was €87,200. Always an expensive car but €120k is a big jump for somebody who bought new in 2016

joe1303l

Finance option for EX90 Ultra at €1,296 per month over 36 months on a PCP at 6.5%. Deposit of €35k and GMFV of €48,650. Ouch.

notahappycamper

Torn between this and an Audi e-tron GT.

kanuseeme

Buy both, you deserve it 😂

the_amazing_raisin

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120312616#Comment_120312616

I'd actually go for the Volvo, I feel like the Audi is trying to show off or something

joe1303l

EX90 Base Model pricing starting to appear in other markets and it’s far from basic. It would appear we are really getting roasted here. Even the KIA EV9 is available at around $56K starting. https://insideevs.com/news/699370/us-made-2025-volvo-ex90-priced-from-76695-launches-mid-2024/