Romanians

mikeybhoy

What's the srory with all the Romanians living in Ireland especially Dublin at the moment. I'm encountering a lot of them through work and out and about in general these days.

Seems they've replaced the Polish as the dominant Eastern European immigrant group in Ireland most of them seem to be younger too usually in their mid to late twenties or early thirties with young families whereas the Polish that are still here generally tend to be middle aged and more settled in.

They seem alright but they don't seem to be much craic or have much personality even compared to the Polish and other Eastern European nationalities.

degrassinoel

Dey Terk Err Jerrrrrbs

TooTired123

I find that what we generally refer to as Romanians” are actually a mix of Romanians Slovakians and Czechs. Very family oriented folk.

Quitelife

Excellent welfare rates in Ireland - Far better than the UK .

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John_Rambo

I've come across a good few in various small to medium companies throughout the last decade, mainly in the trades from automotive, construction & culinary. Seems they've a good work ethic, a very hands on approach, good skills and as TooTired states, family orientated, keen to get on and ambitious. A lot employers loosing them to Germany now it seems.... rent & house prices having an effect.

John_Rambo

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119842734#Comment_119842734

Have you come across many in a welfare situation? Any I come across are in work situations (mind you, I'm not a welfare recipient and I don't work in that area).

smokingman

Seems like a veiled attempt to stirr up some good old hatred there gasún.

Might be a few foreign bots to join you in that but real Irish people are a bit more welcoming of foreigners because of all those countries that welcomed us when we had to leave our Emerald paradise.

This is the best country in the world and it's understandable why others want to come here. We have the craic with anyone.

Frank Grimes

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119842772#Comment_119842772

They probably haven't met a single Romanian full stop, and probably couldn't point to Romania on a map either, but are going to fight the good xenophobic fight anyway like that other poster.

dxhound2005

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119842734#Comment_119842734

That doesn't stop them going to the UK. Below is from newspaper of 30 November 2021.

"In 2014, the UK lifted labour restrictions imposed on Romanians, and, although in fewer numbers than predicted by the media, they did migrate to Britain. In 2017, Romanians overtook both the Irish and Indian population, reaching second place as the highest foreign population in the UK, just under the Poles. The latest official data shows that over 1.08 million Romanians have applied to settle in the UK after Brexit. That’s more than the population of Liverpool."

knucklehead6

they’re obviously here to increase our ratios

(nicked from interesting maps thread)

Star Bingo

There’s one really large one around here who wears the same floral bicycle shorts whilst pushing the pram; like really feckin fat with her 8 girls in tow I swear I could not distinguish. They look like the same octuplet

John_Rambo

There could be some confusion here between Romanians and Romani. They're very different.

Romania - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Romania

Romani - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Romani_people

The Romani information is absolutely fascinating, but it's important that people educate themselves and distinguish the differences before jumping online and making a fool of themselves.

dxhound2005

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119842844#Comment_119842844

They won't make much difference. We need more Hungarians.

Star Bingo

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119842896#Comment_119842896

Aren’t they ultimately more Indians?

John_Rambo

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119842912#Comment_119842912

It's all there on the link I provided. I had an encounter with a Romani person, he friended me on FB and I clicked on translate on one of his posts and FB couldn't translate it but interestingly enough it detected Hindi in the text.

billyhead

The Romanian gypsies are a scourge.

GIMP

The ones i know locally and are neighbours are all hard working and decent folk who are busy raising their families and contributing to society so I have no issues with them!

John_Rambo

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119842931#Comment_119842931

There you go! 😄

Tonesjones

5th highest in Europe now for total of the population as a percentage who were born overseas.

3rd if you don't count Malta and Lithuania

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119842796#Comment_119842796

Craic capital of Europe. More the merrier i say. We've got the systems in place

Star Bingo

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119842946#Comment_119842946

Hopeless romantics 🤪

saabsaab

Wasn't Dracula a Romanian? Or Bram Stoker.

dxhound2005

Us Celts came from Turkey.

corner of hells

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119842931#Comment_119842931

A c'mon, at least give us something to work off.

Like how they robbed your chickens or your collection of goal posts ?

John_Rambo

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119842992#Comment_119842992

Bram Stoker - Dublin. Dracula (fictional) - Transylvania, in Romania (then Hungary I think) 👍️

saabsaab

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119842994#Comment_119842994

Not really they are saying now (most of us) we came from Iberia.

murpho999

New Polish colleague, who doesn’t claim any welfare, like 99% of immigrants, hates being called Eastern European and is adamant he’s Central European. Turns out he’s correct. Romanians are not from Eastern Europe either.

They don’t like being labelled Eastern European as it groups them in with Russia.

I respect and relate to that when I hear foreigners say Ireland is British or part of the British Isles.

Schwiiing

Everything east of Germany is eastern Europe

saabsaab

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119847217#Comment_119847217

No. By what criteria do you say such. Originally East meant East of Rome or so I was told.

dxhound2005

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119843648#Comment_119843648

He is correct if you go by the arbitary lines on that map. What is Central Europe is translated from Mitteleuropa in the original German.

"After peace in the East was assured by the Treaty of Brest-Litovsk, Germany and Austria-Hungary started a policy of creating a "Mitteleuropa" ("Central Europe") and on November 5, 1917, declared that a puppet state Kingdom of Poland might be created."

joe.smoe.low

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058270727/romanians

Have to disagree with this, Romanians are one of the most genuine people I've met, they get a lot of stick as people presume they're Roma's and get slagged etc as if they where.

Fr Tod Umptious

Yea these Romanians really are taking the piss alright.

Listen to this story.

I know of one who was a chef, but got into a motorcycle accident and lost his job.

Do you know what he did when he had recovered ?

Went and opened his own bakery, employing his wife and a few more Romanian people.

Seriously like, first of all he is occupying a building that could be used to house Irish people on the housing waiting list and secondly he is taking all the baking jobs that unemployed Irish people want.

The sooner we get rid of the likes of him the better.

Wibbs

Romanians =/= Roma. I've known a couple of the former. Seemed fine to me. They didn't appreciate being associated with the latter.

Electric Gypsy

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119842844#Comment_119842844

That map is making me horny!

Glaceon

I used to work with one until recently. Sound lad.

Quitelife

To be fair there are plenty Romanians that will work and contribute to Irish society but the Roma ethnic group from Romania dont seem to work instead claiming every benefit possible and begging along with many arrested for criminality .

Its quite similar to the Irish profile in the UK in recent years , we have some very educated Irish contributing to the UK economy but the Irish Traveller is similary regarded by the british on benefits etc , everytime you turn on Crimewatch UK they are looking for the whereabouts of some Irish Traveller or other .

glenfieldman

I work with two Romanians in a very high profile hotel in Dublin, they are the hardest working and most professional lads ive had the pleasure to work with

They could teach the Irish workers in here a thing or two

Kurooi

Just a natural rate of progression I guess. We've witnessed Poland go through it European companies moving in, operations, manufacturing, logistics, then advancing to tertiary sector coding, IT, finance. Not as much sense in Poles emigrating anymore now that they have job opportunities in their fields at home and the quality of life gap narrowed. Time for Romania. I call it now we will see the same jobs shift to Romania over the next 10 years and the pattern of immigration will shift further.

You really have to differentiate between immigrants who came here to work/study/live and those who came for benefits. As some here said Romanians are great, on average a bit less craic than you've been spoiled with but their priorities are family, work, life. They integrate just fine.

Fr Tod Umptious

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119848563#Comment_119848563

You really have to differentiate between immigrants who came here to work/study/live and those who came for benefits.

In reality how many, from anywhere come to a country for the benefits?

If you are a lay about in Bucharest on the dole, how motivated are you going to be to up sticks from a place you are comfortably lazy in to go to a different country, the other side of Europe, with a different culture and language, with a much higher cost of living just to be lazy there also for more money.

Does it really make financial sense?

yourdeadwright

People need to be educated they are for the most part NOT Romanians,

They are Roma or Romani gypsies they are an ethic group that originated in North west India & spread across Europe , Most of them in Ireland are Bulgarian ,

Romanians are lovely people & its a beautiful country ,

This thread is the equivalent of a German seeing a bunch of English travellers in there City & starting a thread about with all the Irish in our City ,

corner of hells

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119848674#Comment_119848674

I'd say it's pretty easy to motivate yourself to move from Romania if your Roma , especially if you're experiencing social , economic , educational exclusion routinely.

Romania is that bad its legislatures had to enact laws recently bringing tougher sentences for its citizens that discriminate against Roma.

As an aside Roma must be the significant living here that experienced the wrath of Hitlers genocide and all certain posters can do is rattle off shite about them , for perspective, there's between 5 and 7 thousand Roma living here.

Fr Tod Umptious

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119848723#Comment_119848723

But Roma are traditionally a nomadic people, and as others have said on this thread not all Roma are Romanian and not all Romanian are Roma.

I'm asking about your standard eastern European version of Anto or Decko, who grew up in a house and community where very few worked, who left school early and has been on the dole all their lives.

Would they really be movitated to move to a different, more expensive country with a different culture just because the benefits were better?

Or would they just stay were they are, breed and keep the whole cycle rolling and rolling locally.

You don't see Anto or Decko heading off to Scandinavia even though they have better welfare states than ourselves.

snowstorm445

Are there any stats on where the majority of Roma are actually coming from? They're obviously not synonymous with Romanians (very different in fact, despite being conflated), but as far as I know Hungary and Bulgaria also have a big Roma contingent, and yet people always assume they come from Romania.

Wibbs

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119848723#Comment_119848723

Jews suffered the same and worse for centuries and still do today in a few quarters and moved all over the world. Look at social problems, unemployment, levels of begging, crime and prison stats, cultural impacts negative and positive. Roma and Jews. Compare and contrast. It is inescapable to conclude that one culture is significantly superior to the other by nigh on every metric.

circadian

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119843648#Comment_119843648

Somebody should tell Microsoft so they stop using "North Europe" to designate their Irish datacentres.

John_Rambo

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119848857#Comment_119848857

Second biggest ethnic group in Romania, further associating them with the country and regular Romanians.

growleaves

'Seems like a veiled attempt to stirr up some good old hatred there gasún.'

Why should simply noticing that Romanians live in Ireland stir up hatred?

Are we not supposed to know or care who lives in our country?

Ham_Sandwich

its no ones business who is taking welfare and who isnt

2Mad2BeMad

Not individual people no.

But tax payers have a right to know where the money is going.

As for Romanians, I have not got a problem with them, I'm good friends with a Romanian.

One of the nicest people you could meet, he's married to a Polish woman and the 2 of them are hardworking people. If they ever ended up on social welfare I'd never judge them as far as I'm concerned they'd deserve any help they can get if they ended up in unfortunate circumstances.

Definitely compared to the little scrotes here who finish school and have a full time career waiting in line at the post office.

And I will admit I was ignorant growing up believing romas where Romanians

As for romas , they beg for a living, or at least every single one I happened to cross paths with in Ireland, Bulgaria and Spain do.

corner of hells

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119848883#Comment_119848883

Jews certainly did suffer worse throughout the world at different times but I think of here in Ireland apart from programs and the start of the 1900s , nobody really bothers Jews .If anything despite being a very small grouping , they are very accepted in Ireland in recent generations.

Whereas Roma here are experiencing maybe low level ignorance type issues here , even a poster using the term Roma " Anto and Decos".

maninasia

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119849815#Comment_119849815

So Roma immigrants don't have very high dependency levels on the Irish state?

Got any stats you can share with us? I will be open minded to review them.

It's all down to the ignorant Irish who are paying their taxes and funding the welfare for people not in the country a month.....I see. Typical to turn the issue back on what are very generous hosts.