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Why do we settle for this?

  • 01-11-2022 12:13am
    Registered Users Posts: 162 ✭✭daedal

    I wake up and I read the news and I hear another bad story about this country, I try to decipher it and tell myself Ireland isn't that bad but I'm losing the battle, so much so that I've acquired a Canada visa and **** off there in the next couple of months. This is the second time I've emmigrated since 2012, this time will be for good.. I've realised I can build a retirement here. What the **** is going on here? Why aren't young people getting upset about this ****?



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,261 ✭✭✭kirk.

    What is going on op ?

  • Registered Users Posts: 2,381 ✭✭✭Buddy Bubs

    Theres crime and poverty and corrupt politicians and high house prices and social welfare scroungers and unemployment and junkies and homeless in Canada too. Enjoy your trip.

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  • Registered Users, Moderators, Regional Abroad Moderators Posts: 1,988 Mod ✭✭✭✭Nigel Fairservice

    I lived in Canada and it was a lovely place to live but bad things happen there too.

  • Registered Users Posts: 4,261 ✭✭✭kirk.

    Theres a local bigwig an out and out c*

    Always proclaiming in the press that we need "can-do people"

    Mostly in response to criticisms directed at his organization

  • Registered Users Posts: 11,920 ✭✭✭✭mariaalice

    It's all cause by Woke and Canada is a paradise why do people write nonsense like that? We have the same issues as all developed western societies except our housing issues is worse. Canada is a lovely place but its got the same issues as any wealthy first world democacery, lots of woke culture as well.

  • Registered Users Posts: 11,920 ✭✭✭✭mariaalice

    The idea of the shinning city on the hill seem to be part of the human psyche.

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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,422 ✭✭✭waterwelly

    Another one of these faraway hills are greener threads.

    Amazing how these lads keep looking back over their shoulder though.

  • Is this a new AH game? "Guess the woe?"

  • Registered Users Posts: 5,895 ✭✭✭Ubbquittious

    Canada has its own fecking housing crisis just like we do all due to policies agreed upon by the West many years ago. Our money supply depends on a steady stream of people taking out new mortgages and our economy depends on a steady flow of new money being created so these housing crises are hard to avoid without a fundamental reconfiguration of the system.

  • Registered Users Posts: 27,672 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78

    canada is on the brink of a banking/housing crash, so.....

  • Registered Users Posts: 4,437 ✭✭✭maninasia

    Our housing issue is possibly the worst in the whole world for a developed nation.

    That is a really big problem. And it looks like it's going to get worse before it gets better.

  • Registered Users Posts: 4,437 ✭✭✭maninasia

    Lots of smart people use their heads to work remotely. Otherwise I agree with your post.

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  • Registered Users Posts: 27,672 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78

    ....we have a wee bit of narcissism in regards our housing issues, this is in fact a common problem across the world, many developed economies are experiencing more or less the same problem, countries such as canada, Australia, new zealand, sweden, are all more or less experiencing the same problem, and if you think prices are off the walls here, you should check out south korea, whereby in some cities, citizens must take on sizeable mortgages, just to get access to rental markets! i.e. our housing problems are in fact a serious fundamental failure at institutional level, and is quickly becoming a global problem

  • Registered Users Posts: 7,681 ✭✭✭Furze99

    Grand, off you go.

  • Registered Users Posts: 5,251 ✭✭✭Jequ0n

    It never ceases to amaze me how many people fail to seize the opportunities they are given and settle for whinging.

    Go ahead and leave and leave the opportunities for me so.

  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators Posts: 9,282 Mod ✭✭✭✭Jim2007

    Perhaps the OP has room for you in his case.... the bad news for you is that Ireland is never going to go where you would like it, because that is not what the voters want.

  • Registered Users Posts: 296 ✭✭Ham_Sandwich

    people just like to have a moan and a whinge saying theres problems I do never have toruble just keep to yourselfs and people who go looking for trouble always find it just keep youre head down and you wont have any trouble

  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators Posts: 9,282 Mod ✭✭✭✭Jim2007

    Out of interest how much local Canadian news to your read in comparison to local Irish new? Most local bad news never reaches the international press. For instance you might of heard of Sepp Blatter as a result of the FIFA scandal, but here in Switzerland we are far more concerned in figuring out what he got up to as one of the principle officers responsible for military procurement. And then there was P26, a group Swiss army officers of decided to taken Switzerland's arrangement to Ireland to move their government to Ireland in the event of a war - they spent millions on acquiring Irish property, garages full of suitable government cars, food stocks and even handed over Swiss military secrets to the Irish defence forces. And yet this hardly got a mention in the Irish press. Bad crap happens in every country and just because don't hear about it does not mean it is not going on. So if that is your criteria for a move, then expect to move again....

    As for young people, they live in a country with a strong economy and vibrant beat, so it's the place to be. Yes there are issues such as housing, petty crime etc... but those are everywhere and a large portion of them have had a chance to experience Europe via the Erasmus program etc... so I expect they have a better perspective on what is on offer.

    I hope you find what you are looking for, but given your criteria I would not be optimistic.

  • Registered Users Posts: 5,766 ✭✭✭TheIrishGrover


  • Registered Users Posts: 19,394 ✭✭✭✭dxhound2005

    This seems to be another post where the OP disappears. I was going to let them know about a radio phone in from Canada which I happened to hear yesterday. Callers were raging against high fuel costs, and wanted to have their politicians put in jail.

  • Registered Users Posts: 5,766 ✭✭✭TheIrishGrover

    Isn't Toronto the most expensive place in the world for Realestate at the moment?

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  • Registered Users Posts: 651 ✭✭✭Hyperbollix

    Ireland's problems arent unique to Ireland. They are the problems of most developed, first world countries where profit is put before people. Now, in the big scheme of things, Ireland isnt even that bad because a lot of the cons of this economic model are offset by governments which do a reasonably good job of redistributing the wealth in society. There are plenty of places that have Ireland's issues plus deep, embedded inequality and winner takes all capitalism.

    Are there "better" places to live in? Sure, we could be one of those fabled Scandi states with natural resource wealth on top of vibrant high wage economy where citizens are motivated and largely happy to pay inflated taxes for the greater good.......... but we aren't. But we aren't too bad either and we could be a fúcking hell of a lot worse.