US Midterms 2022 - Read OP before posting

everlast75

Hope this is allowed - a bit of levity...

Timberrrrrrrr

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120066371#Comment_120066371

I hope they live stream the moment he has to go into the speakers office and remove all his stuff that he put in their thinking he was a shoe in for the job 🤣

Quin_Dub

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120066583#Comment_120066583

An image of him leaving the speakers office would be utterly legendary.

Would go down as an iconic photo and allegory for the demise of the GOP

Another Trump endorsement goes south.

extra gravy

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120064555#Comment_120064555

Nancy still living rent free in his head as always 😂 Must really hurt that she wasn't a loser like him and his buddy Kev.

Faugheen

They've gone to a vote on whether or not to adjourn until tomorrow. This is incredible.

Faugheen

So far one Republican has voted not to adjourn, imagine they forced them to go through with this nonsense again.

Faugheen

And it's gone. McCarthy will get what he wants. BOOOOOO

everlast75

Hannity is going after "the freedom caucus"..

https://twitter.com/MollyJongFast/status/1610832514318274562?s=20&t=-5nfTZ_A7H831pg_Pr7V4g

Igotadose

Nice summary of yesterday's events and what they actually really imply by Lithwick at Slate, who normally covers the SCOTUS but is one of the sharper pencils in their wallet:

"If past is prologue, this week will prove to be yet another near miss in the annals of democratic decline. The hope right now is that January 2023 is the caboose on the Jan. 6 train, and not the café car, but if the thing these people trade on is attention, I don’t see any real reason for optimism"

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2023/01/mccarthy-speaker-vote-jan-sixth-again.html

duploelabs

Could we be looking at a northern Irish assembly situation? What happens if they can't elect a speaker?

Igotadose

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120067889#Comment_120067889

They keep going until they do. In the ancient days it once took 133 ballots, though politics was really horrible then, this was in the run up to the Civil War. It has been 100 years since it took more than 1 ballot.

No speaker, no house actions. So, government by executive order I guess. Imagine if some major bad event happened that required legislation...

This is the point of the article I just posted. The insurrectionist caucus doesn't want government. Government is bad. They've hit upon a strategy that's working for them. Lay down with dogs, get up with fleas, this is what Kevin McCarthy's learned the last few days.

everlast75

Trump has backed McCarthy.

That means that Gaetz et al etc are working against trump's wishes.

Yet Gaetz and others rode on trump's coattails to get elected.

I'm trying to figure out how it benefits Gaetz, going against 45.

Igotadose

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120067948#Comment_120067948

They've flipped the Bozo bit on TFG. He's boring and doesn't matter anymore. Politicians being weasles is a job requirement, they think they can do better without him, they'll drop him. It's perhaps one of the best things to come out of this.

If in fact McCarthy gets the gig, I imagine McCarthy's revenge tour will be very entertaining.

duploelabs

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120067948#Comment_120067948

Gaetz was also the gatekeeper for the pardons that trump dished out

TheIrishGrover

About a year ago (Or maybe more) I posted on another thread something along the lines of "And what happens when trump isn't extreme enough? When MGT isn't extreme enough for the GQP crowd? This will only lead the GQP to lean even further into the extreme GQP/loony-side to pursue their votes." I thought it would take longer but how soon before this lot start calling trump a RINO? (We know he is but they will think for the opposite reasons).

Edit: Actually it was March 22:

..... Will they feel confident enough in relying on the MAGA brigade? I mean will they think that Biden's performance up to 2024 will win over the centreists so they (GOP) can push for another trump clone? And, similar to another previous post, is this the direction they wish to go for the next 10,20, 30, 40 years? It certainly seems to be (As another poster said, they literally LITERALLY had a Golden Icon of him that they worshipped without irony). It seems an extreme path that is only going in one direction.

And how FAR down that path do they wish to go? When that Margorie whatever is not extreme enough, what's the next step?.....

..... I grew up in a time when Russia and America HATED eachother. Now the GOP seems to be embracing them. Putin is as hard line Russia-first as any 70's Russian leader and GOP policies and American policies in general are differing more and more from Western Europe and other former allies every generation.

I know I keep asking similar questions but usually they are ignored or someone comes out with some poll they found. GOP wins/Democrats Win/whatever. Just curious about the direction of the GOP.

So really this thread shouldn't be "What does the future hold for Donald Trump?" and more "What's next for The Republican Party?"

MadYaker

It’s hard to see where this going to go. I wonder is there any chance of the dems nominating a more middle of the road character that a few moderate republicans could hold their noses and vote for in return for a few concessions? The GOP majority is tiny so it would only take a handful of defectors.

It seems that the 20 odd people holding this up don’t want anything in particular they just want to cause a bit of chaos.

They’re basically running into the same problem as the tories. In reality the GOP isn’t one party anymore it’s 2 or 3 different factions that can no longer work together but the system doesn’t allow them to exist apart.

everlast75

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120068502#Comment_120068502

My understanding was that Liz Cheney might secure enough votes.

The more this drags on, the better for Dems.

Even when they take the House, they can't control their own members.

Thank **** they are so bad at this.

TheIrishGrover

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120068588#Comment_120068588

But... but... She's a RINO!!!!!! 😀

astrofool

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120068588#Comment_120068588

If a speaker is elected, is it for the term or is it subject to lots of "no confidence" votes to replace them?

cunnifferous

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120068588#Comment_120068588

She got ditched in the primaries didn't she? So she's not in the house anymore?

Igotadose

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120068671#Comment_120068671

Correct on both counts. Still eligible to be voted in as Speaker. Heck, I should put my own name in the running. I'd take the gig for the lolz.

28064212

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120068671#Comment_120068671

You don't have to be a member of the house to be elected speaker

Igotadose

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120068663#Comment_120068663

It's for the term. They can be replaced and it seems McCarthy's making it easier for that to happen as part of his bending over for the Insurrection caucus.

Quin_Dub

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120068687#Comment_120068687

indeed, one of the "requirements" from the loons is that a single member can bring up a vote to replace the Speaker

Current threshold I think requires 50 signatures to bring the vote to the floor. They want that threshold removed entirely.

As long as there is no Speaker, absolutely nothing can happen.

New members can't get sworn in, staff can't get paid, legislation can't be voted on.

The US government is at absolute stalemate until this gets sorted.

So things like debt default and Government shutdowns are absolutely on the cards depending on how long this goes on for.

Igotadose

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120068773#Comment_120068773

FWIW the budget won't need a re-up till September. One of the things the insurrection caucus was upset about was McCarthy/Pelosi/McConnel/Schumer ensuring they got that through before the election. Foresightful for once.

Quin_Dub

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120068783#Comment_120068783

At least that's something as they absolutely would be using that to hold everyone hostage.

MadYaker

I only learned yesterday that literally anyone can be chosen as House Speaker. They don’t have be elected to Congress or the Senate or any public office at all. They could just wheel someone in off the street if they wanted to. Just another quirk of their insane and antiquated system, from which a lot of their current problems stem imo.

Quin_Dub

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120069180#Comment_120069180

Everything about their political system screams "Why do you do it that way? , That's just nonsense!"

VinLieger

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120069775#Comment_120069775

The tietacular stupidity of Electoral College has to be the worst example

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sHEDXzOfENI