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What’s your most controversial opinion? **Read OP** **Mod Note in Post #3372**

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,032 ✭✭✭✭whisky_galore


    "She herself being one by claiming it only happened because she's female."

    Fair play to her for coming out against the judges decision but if it was a male or a woman from a lower class knocked into unconsciousness I very much doubt the media would have latched onto it as much.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,786 ✭✭✭cms88


    Agreed. She should be highlighting the ruling in the case, however to say it only happened to her because she's female just isn't true.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,771 ✭✭✭kowloonkev


    The guy said people who emigrated here as an adult and have NO Irish connection are not Irish.

    Your dad is Irish.

    I think that's fairly clear.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,032 ✭✭✭✭whisky_galore


    I see that misery Louise O'Neill with a banner topper on the examiner about we shouldn't be using women as punchbags.

    Wow thanks captain obvious and there was I going to use a woman as a punchbag.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,786 ✭✭✭cms88


    Another who's licking her lips at all of this as a way to try and keep herself relevant.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 203 ✭✭Highlighter75


    Funny how woke extremists recognise women are different from men when it suits their extremist agenda.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,487 ✭✭✭Vote4Squirrels


    Oh that's good news - now she's made it clear, I can go pick up my prescription without risk of being decked by the Boots pharmacist.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,487 ✭✭✭Vote4Squirrels


    You would be surprised how many people don't consider me "proper" Irish cos of the accent.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,569 ✭✭✭Cordell


    Same tribalism is what actually fueled the african slave trade - different tribes capturing and selling people from the rival tribes as slaves. And speaking of slavery, unlike pretty much everything else it wasn't invented by the white western world, but the white western civilization was the first and only one who took serious actions to end it, including going to war with itself.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,779 ✭✭✭✭Princess Consuela Bananahammock


    People who post "eat the rich" are usually vegan…

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,569 ✭✭✭Cordell


    People who post "trust the science" usually don't know or understand the scientific method - and this applies to both those who post is seriously and the ones who post it sarcastically.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,156 ✭✭✭✭castletownman


    I'm not surprised a fella like that slipped through the net for the army.

    Any lad I know who joined the defence forces after school were like what Tommy Tiernan would describe as 'thick fookers who love sheds'. None of them ever lasted more than a few years either, certainly no promotion.

    And you'd swear the Irish army was as psychologically wearing as the US/UK equivalent.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 18,963 CMod ✭✭✭✭The Black Oil


    Dated understanding, pathologised view of autism and autistic people - check

    Dumb comparison with schizophrenia - check

    There is no 'mild' or 'severe' autism, it's not the flu. This sort of ignorance is unsurprising since many people don't know what autism is. You've no idea the extent to which the high people you referenced have had to live their lives with some significant level of compromise, such as through masking which comes at a high personal cost. People have often been through the mill before even getting to point of being taken seriously. Are some autistic people arseholes? Yes, of course, but non-autistic people don't get to police how autistic people assert their identity. If you want to actually get clued in, listen to podcasts, watch webinars or read Eric Garcia, Pete Wharmby, Steve Silberman, Damian Milton, Fiacre Ryan, Francesca Happé

    Things that are actually problematic

    • People casually diagnosing someone based on a 30 second interaction, or behind their back. Disgusting, undignified and at worst, a form of entitlement. A clear knock on effect of "awareness".
    • No diagnostic pathway for autistic adults in the Irish health system
    • Most research looking at autism through the lens of a petri dish because it's about investigating biology, not helping people, services or lifespan and quality of life. This is primarily because the framing of autism and autistic people is deficits, deficits, deficits from decades of gatekeeping.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,850 ✭✭✭Jack Daw


    There is mild and severe autism, to say their isn't is pure bullshit.Every single health/mental condition that exists can be mild or severe, autism is no different.The fact that Autism is a spectrum disorder confirms this.

    Some people who have autism it has a severely debilitating effect on their lives that they'll never be able to live a normal life and can't live independently

    Other people who have autism are able to get on perfectly fine and live full lives.

    I haven't compared autism to Schizophrenia, I compared having a mild condition with a severe one.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 18,963 CMod ✭✭✭✭The Black Oil


    Your thinking here is all through the lens of putting people in boxes. The third point is purely your perception of how they're living it. If their lives were fine, they wouldn't have a diagnosis.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,850 ✭✭✭Jack Daw


    Surely by saying someone has Autism is also putting them in a box in the first place as you've labeled them s someone with a condition.

    You can have any number of conditions and live a perfectly ok life where its only a minor inconvenience not a major one.

    This applies to Autism , for some people it is extremely debilitating for others it isn't as debilitating.

    Just because you have a diagnosis for something doesn't means it is always a massive deal, it can be just a little bump in the road of life.

    You get a diagnosis for pancreatic cancer it almost certainly means you'll die, you get a diagnoses for Testicular cancer you'll probably live.They're both cancer but one is easier to treat than the other.This applies to every single condition in the world including autism , denying this is denying reality, autism is not all the same there are degrees to have debilitating it can be.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 18,963 CMod ✭✭✭✭The Black Oil


    Plenty of those you deem 'mild' think of ending their lives, in part because of what the world asks of them (constant compliance). Does that sound like a 'little bump in the road' to you? It's likely some who die by suicide are undiagnosed, also.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,779 ✭✭✭✭Princess Consuela Bananahammock


    No, because something can a charactristic without defining you. To take another point of this thread: I'm Irish, but it doesn't define me. It defines a lot of other people, sure - and power to them - but there are lots of other things define me and who I am and with a lot more accuracy.

    I kind of got the point - correct me if I'm wrong - from you're original point that you were disagreeing with the idea of a "spectrum" which I interpreted as being against different scales or degrees of autism, but the rest of your post contradicted that so it wasn't clear. Coupled with the fact that there are different types of Autism - Aperger's for example - made the rest of your post kinda confusing.

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,950 ✭✭✭✭yourdeadwright


    I'v no idea why people are patriotic

    Its literally pot luck you have no say in it at all, Iv more in common with people on the other side of the globe than i do with osme of my rat bag neighbours ,



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,033 ✭✭✭✭El_Duderino 09


    Depends on what you mean by patriotic. What do you mean by patriotic?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 310 ✭✭danfrancisco83


    They absolutely SHOULD put a road through St. Catherine's Park. It's the only thing that makes sense to connect N3 with N4. The park is not even that good.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,569 ✭✭✭Cordell


    Do you keep your house clean and tidy? Do you repair stuff when it gets broken? Why? It's literally pot luck you're living in THAT particular house.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,551 ✭✭✭silliussoddius


    Surely it would have nothing to do with the fact that their idea of patriotism usually aligns with their opinions.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,779 ✭✭✭✭Princess Consuela Bananahammock


    Depends - did I just wake up in the house one morning with no idea how I got there and how many housemates am I sharing outwith?

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 711 ✭✭✭maik3n


    Just on the recent Aer Lingus Pilot strike fiasco, I'm really not that bothered that Mom/Dad and 2.4 children can't go on their hollibobs to Benidorm or similar climbs, lol.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,393 ✭✭✭✭suvigirl


    Its hardly put luck that people choose a house to rent or purchase!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 461 ✭✭Kingslayer


    They should let Enoch Burke out for the summer hols, what harm is he going to do hanging round outside a closed school? Give his spot in the joy to the woman beating soldier.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,779 ✭✭✭✭Princess Consuela Bananahammock


    No problem with the last bit of that, but not sure with "what harm" can he do? He'll find a way…

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,786 ✭✭✭cms88


    Another excuse for parents to cry about how unfair it is on them. Ignoring the fact they weren't forced into having kids in the first place.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 461 ✭✭Kingslayer


    On that note, it is the media that are keeping the Burke theatre in business. They crave the attention, without it they would dry up and blow away.



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