Women assaults man and the Irish Independent think it is funny

Ray Palmer

https://www.independent.ie/videos/woman-slaps-man-for-proposing-to-her-with-ring-pop-at-packed-stadium-42039994.html

She slaps him and throws a drink on him. There is no other way to classify this other than assault. I have seen similar outburst from women and it is just laughed off. The world should acknowledge this as unacceptable

Also

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xEZH6YSQvwA

MIRMIR82

Sorry, but he purposely was trying to embarrass her. I would have slapped him too! He deserved no better.

Leading your girlfriend to believe that you have a nice ring in the box when it is not, in front of crowds is emotional abuse. He obviously is very comfortable lying.

Peterson disapproves 😂😂😂

timmyntc

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119707542#Comment_119707542

Leading your girlfriend to believe that you have a nice ring in the box when it is not, in front of crowds is emotional abuse.

that escalated quickly

also this whole thing was a staged stunt

Ray Palmer

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119707529#Comment_119707529

So if a women embarrassed a man he can slap her and throw a drink on her? He played a joke she could have laughed it off and kissed him. She assaulted him. What would she do for anything else that she gets upset about?

HerrKapitan

All those proposals, kiss cam arguments are all staged. It is great entertainment though as long as nobody got hurt. Something tells me that that guy is still alive.

Ray Palmer

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119707591#Comment_119707591

As long as nobody gets hurt it isn't assault in your eye? You are making a huge assumption that they are all staged but if staged assault is being laughed at as if real the point doesn't change

Feisar

Women can get away with this because their attacks are low level things. There just isn't any serious threat from them. Plus there is a safety net there that men don't have. In your example there who jumped in to defend yer man? Whereas if he starting laying into her there would be a small million trying to defend her.

That's assault, if a man had slapped a woman in public because he was upset by her actions I'm sure there would be repercussions.

If he had retaliated for her slap I'm sure there would have been repercussions.

Both of the individuals in the video need to grow up a bit, but I'm sure it was only done to get their 5 minutes of internet fame.

magicbastarder

there's a difference to be highlighted between 'it's wrong to hit someone' and 'this means they don't deserve it'.

as mentioned above, that's staged. but anyone who would genuinely propose to their other half as a surprise in front of a massive crowd deserves a root up the hole. this does not mean one should necessarily be administered.

Ray Palmer

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119707612#Comment_119707612

That is exactly how domestic abuse of men is laughed off. Place a knife in a woman's hand and everything changes dramatically and that is how men have described the escalation of assaults from the initially slapping and humiliations they endure

HerrKapitan

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119707609#Comment_119707609

Yes. There is a line that needs to be crossed for it to be assault. That same slap the other way around would have more physical consequence.

There are times when people should just toughen up and stop muddying the water on real assaults. I doubt that slap even left a red mark.

Ray Palmer

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119707625#Comment_119707625

Never heard a man say "she deserved it" as a defense to violence? She cheated on him so she deserved a beating? She was flirting with some guy so she deserved it? You can't justify it that way without being a complete hypocrite

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

Regardless of what the guy was doing, she over-reacted. If you're not happy, walk way and deal with it in a more private less emotive location and manner. You don't slap or hit people - this is basic conflict resolution Are they not teaching you kids this at school...??

Video is unrelated is it's about reaction to female violence and not the violence itself.

Ray Palmer

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119707654#Comment_119707654

That is not true legally but in your mind you see it that way just make sure you understand the difference. Say he slaps her with the exact same proportional slap as she hit him you would then say he didn't assault her? What about the throwing of a drink? Think you may see a guy doing that as much worse than a women doing it to a guy?

Feisar

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119707636#Comment_119707636

Well bringing a knife to the party changes the story completely, can we park that as it's a different discussion. I replied from a general female on male violence perspective but you are right in terms of domestic abuse.

HerrKapitan

The throwing of a drink is not nice, but is only an inconvenience. I wouldn't deem it assault, nor getting a puddle splash from passing traffic.

Isn't that a staged publicity stunt by the stadium?

Ger Roe

I fairness to The Irish Independent, and contrary to the thread title, I don't see where the report says that the Irish Independent thinks it's funny.

The storyline reads : "Woman slaps man for proposing to her with ring pop at packed stadium."

Is that not just a statement of fact? I don't see any editorial comment to outline how the paper found it funny.

magicbastarder

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119707659#Comment_119707659

i think you took my point a little too seriously.

greenspurs

Its staged , settle down .................

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119707654#Comment_119707654

The moment you touch someone aggressively, it's assault in legal terms.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119707919#Comment_119707919

Yeah, we know, but the whole point is to ask, how it would be defined if it was real....?

greenspurs

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119707954#Comment_119707954

No one was hurt , move on?

Or is that not allowed anymore ? There HAS to be outrage and a victim ...

Get Real

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119707919#Comment_119707919

If it was staged the other way round, some kind of scenario where the woman somehow embarrasses the man and he hits her for example, I've no doubt there'd be several groups and think tanks condemning it saying it makes a laugh of/ normalises violence against women and stops women coming forward to report abuse.

Its also a bad reflection on the Independent. That's what journalism is now. Copy and pasting a video off Reddit or Tiktok that went viral a few days before and making it into an article.

HBC08

If it was staged the other way around yer man would have got the sh1t kicked out of him,there would be guys tripping over themselves to get a smack in.

It's double standards plain and simple,why is it not OK to call this out?

BorneTobyWilde

A lot of the time when a girl has an angry reaction to a proposal is when the guy is dating her for 5 minutes, and he proposes in front of a crowd to force a correct answer from her. Sad

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119708003#Comment_119708003

Pretty sure you're missing the point. Sometimes, something's not actually about "outrage" or "victims".

captain dildano

I don't think either of them deserve sympathy. What he did wasn't funny it was stupid what she did was violent. There's a pair of them in it.

Ray Palmer

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119708003#Comment_119708003

What outrage? Commenting on it isn't outrage. It seems you are the one overreacting based on presumed beliefs