GoLoud Cash Machine

radiotrickster · 05-08-2023 12:55pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120938337#Comment_120938337

They don’t tend to do it on bank holiday weekends

SimpleDimple · 07-08-2023 8:18am

They never replied to my email asking how many people enter each day

radiotrickster · 07-08-2023 1:47pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120948235#Comment_120948235

Why would they?

SimpleDimple · 07-08-2023 2:03pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120949087#Comment_120949087

To let you know even roughly what chance you have of winning. Lotto and even scratch cards give you the odds, as do most raffles you enter into. This €2.50/text with no idea of how much chance you have of winning or how much of the ‘pot’ goes towards the prize is sneaky and underhanded by the organisers.

radiotrickster · 07-08-2023 3:29pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120949109#Comment_120949109

But they’re a business. You wouldn’t email your local coffee shop asking how much coffee they sell.

What Bauer are selling is the chance to win. I’m almost certain Ryanair don’t disclose the chance of winning with their scratch cards either.

chilloutrelax · 07-08-2023 7:23pm

Openness and transparency is really important when it comes to something like this. If they don’t start providing more information about probability etc. I have a feeling it will become a problem in the future.

Also, the constant promotion of it must be irritating for regular listeners who have no interest in participating. The odd time I listen to Spin the presenter usually talks about it for 2 minutes after the news.

deise man · 07-08-2023 7:50pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120950116#Comment_120950116

Irritating is an understatement. Don't know what it is about the cash machine but I find it to be the most annoying thing on radio.

Bananaleaf · 07-08-2023 8:00pm

I entered it once one day, for the craic. It was a round number, it was guaranteed to be won that day and I was going to be beside the phone all day so I said I'd give it a shot. Didn't win, heh, but that was grand and for me, that was the end of that.

However ... the minute I sent the text, this is what I got in response:

"1 entry confirmed, Unlock more entries! Reply PLAY (EUR2.50) & add 2 more entries for the price of 1! Ends 3pm" Included in this message was the option to opt out of getting the text too.

I didn't bother opting out and just ignored it. But every day until I texted STOP (which also cost me money) they would message me with the cash machine amount and prompts to text them to enter.

The cash machine is WAY MORE insidious than the lottery. I don't have a gambling addiction but it made me very sympathetic to those who do.

plodder · 07-08-2023 9:57pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120949109#Comment_120949109

All true. And never mind whether or not this kind of gambling is a reasonable use of a licensed public resource.

The minister for justice is getting a lot of criticism for her focus on the hate speech bill, as opposed to dealing with other issues like garda retention and street crime. But, there are serious gambling related issues like this one, and others like "loot boxes" in online gaming targeted at children that surely deserve a higher priority.

SimpleDimple · 08-08-2023 11:04am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120949344#Comment_120949344

It seems Ryanair refuses to give that info too but I don’t remember saying they were the bastion of integrity and their policy should be followed.

I do think though that with the massive reach, and constant selling of this draw, they could be more up front with it. Who hasn’t sent in one text, gotten the reply letting you know the next text gets you 2 entries, and sent it without really stopping to think.

There’s a serious and silent problem with gambling now that even the betting companies have to run ads telling you to stop when it gets too much, but I don’t see anything from Bauer media telling you to tap the brakes if you’re spending money on this every day. Quite the opposite in that they start to text you that day’s sum on the cash machine to tempt you back in. And they also charge you for those texts as the icing on top! It’s only 8c but still!

radiotrickster · 08-08-2023 12:04pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120951836#Comment_120951836

In fairness it says in their terms and conditions you’re limited to 12 entries (€30) per week

hold my beer · 08-08-2023 8:01pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120950223#Comment_120950223

Going by what people said earlier in the thread, it doesn't cost anything to text STOP

Bananaleaf · 09-08-2023 7:42pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120954098#Comment_120954098

I'm looking back on the message thread in my phone now. You are right - it's not the 2.50charge I thought it was to reply STOP. But, it's not free. It is the standard network rate though, so yeah they aren't making money off it. The free messages are the ones they send you back.

Dub13 · 17-10-2023 8:16pm

An item on problem gambling on Sean Moncrieff show last week, was a good segment. The only issue, it was shoe horned in between many mentions of the cash machine. The irony. They came back from the break after the interview and did the cash machine.

2smiggy · 13-11-2023 4:44pm

they said the 'cash machine' paid out €150000 last week.

any transparency of the amount of money they are taking in VS paying out ?

Serious volumes of money involved at this stage

Mr.CoolGuy · 13-11-2023 4:51pm

They had someone on Newstalk giving out about it again during a gambling addiction segment. They seem to have no problem with people pointing that out how it's pervasive but then doing absolutely nothing about it

2smiggy · 13-11-2023 5:02pm

I would imagine they could be taking in double what they are paying out. €75000 per week. no wonder they are doing nothing about it. But without actual figures it's just a guessing game.

I only entered twice near the start of it, but used to get texted the amount every day even if I was not entered. You did not even have to listen to the radio. They were giving you the answer to get you to enter.

deise man · 13-11-2023 8:36pm

Suppose the Christmas cash machine will be starting soon

esposito · 13-11-2023 8:45pm

Getting so fed up of the cash machine. Entered it a few times at the start but now I would not bother my a**e as the chances of winning are slim to none even with the smaller amounts.

Sheep Shagger · 23-11-2023 3:36pm

https://www.irishmirror.ie/news/irish-news/woman-wins-biggest-ever-prize-31501791?fbclid=IwAR09gvhpXoto6Ct2k0vbbKeuwPK0h5h0M-NUCyF_1PtJQ2Zc4ZniAEBs7-Y

Nice haul before Christmas.

I see there is a Facebook page where people post the daily amount too lol.

Schorpio · 23-11-2023 4:10pm

The Cash Machine is a symptom of what happens to radio when one organisation most of the stations.

Today FM/Newstalk etc. would not have the listenership on their own to command the sorts of prizes that are being offered. But combining the listenership leads to more engagement, which leads to bigger prizes, which in leads to more engagement, and so on.

It's a quick way for an overarching corporate entity (Bauer) to use their size and influence to quick milk their stations for profit.

Big prizes also have the knock-on effect of driving listenership to Bauer's stations, and away from the independent stations - devaluing the independent stations and making them more susceptible to purchase.

People absolutely fall for it, and it's killing the Irish radio. It's depressing.

SimpleDimple · 27-11-2023 11:15pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121363562#Comment_121363562

No way to find out. I’ve emailed them a few times but gotten nothing back. There’s no transparency to the competition

callaway92 · 27-11-2023 11:23pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121426411#Comment_121426411

Why should there be transparency? There almost never is with any competition

Breezy_ · 27-11-2023 11:43pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121426411#Comment_121426411

Download their financials?

5 million paid out so far this year.

So probably that taken in aswell.

SimpleDimple · 28-11-2023 8:04am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121426445#Comment_121426445

The lotto for example literally tells you on their website what your chances are of winning on every game they do. This raffle gives no indication of how many entries there are every day, so even though the prize on a roll over week might get up to €50k there’s no way of knowing if your chances are 1/10,000, 1/50,000, 1/100,000 etc