Do you support the Crown as head of state in a United Ireland?

[Deleted User] · 20-09-2022 11:47am #1

Following the success of the Queen’s funeral and the support expressed on Boards for her would you support the Crown as head of state in a United Ireland. A Dual Monarchy if you will. External Association via the Crown if you will.

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riffmongous · 20-09-2022 11:52am

By far the most efficient solution would be to nationalise all the monarchy assets and let the Brits borrow our President instead (no need for them to vote either, save some cash). Net gain of a few billion

ohnonotgmail · 20-09-2022 11:55am

rather poor attempt at a windup.

Flinty997 · 20-09-2022 11:59am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119641058#Comment_119641058

Why does he want deceased queen of another country as head of state of this one.

Pawwed Rig · 20-09-2022 12:00pm

No

A Republic with a monarchy? Not sure how that would work. We would all have to be made peers to meet the basic criteria of equality

MrStuffins · 20-09-2022 12:02pm

"Following the success of the Queen's funeral..."

How exactly would it have failed to be a success? If they checked her pulse again in the coffin and she was still alive?

ohnonotgmail · 20-09-2022 12:02pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119641083#Comment_119641083

they didn't say they wanted the deceased queen of another country as head of state.

[Deleted User] · 20-09-2022 12:04pm

No

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119641058#Comment_119641058

Anything but. Strong support and admiration evident in other thread for the monarchy. One poster even implied she regarded the Queen as still queen of the 26. Here’s a chance to express it. Dismissing it as a wind up? Well put up your own poll.

El_Duderino 09 · 20-09-2022 12:06pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119641086#Comment_119641086

The OP said 'united Ireland', not Republic. So I presume they mean uniting Ireland as part of the UK and then we'd have their monarch as our head of state.

Almost certainly a wind-up. But no, is my answer in any case.

ancapailldorcha · 20-09-2022 12:07pm

No

Why? What would it achieve to offset the intense amount of energy, time and money that would be required?

ELM327 · 20-09-2022 12:08pm

No

Simply a disgusting idea and the worst most thinly veiled troll Ive seen in some time

bennyineire · 20-09-2022 12:08pm

No

Success in what for Ireland?

We can all express condolences and even support for a foreign nations sovereign, that doesn't mean anything more than that.

This is quite obviously a s**t stiffing post but anyway I'll bite :-)

I would consider myself a liberal person and open to must ideas and discussions but this one is clearly daft, there is no way I would accept or vote for a foreign sovereign no more than I would expect any other nation too

Hello 2D Person Below · 20-09-2022 12:08pm

No

I'm happy to make many concessions on a United Ireland; new flag, new national anthem, etc... but any notion of monarchy or rejoining the commonwealth is a line in the sand I'm unwilling to cross.

Pawwed Rig · 20-09-2022 12:09pm

No

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119641118#Comment_119641118

Presumably. I cannot see a situation where we adopt a medieval feudal system. It would be almost unheard of in the world for a democratic country to regress to a monarchy

Padre_Pio · 20-09-2022 12:10pm

No

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119641118#Comment_119641118

Is it a windup? I'm sure plenty in NI love the royals and wouldn't want to give them up in the event of a UI.

Would we accept a new flag, or a modification to the tricolour, or a new national anthem as part of unification? These are real possibilities.

Flinty997 · 20-09-2022 12:11pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119641097#Comment_119641097

"Following the success of the Queen's funeral..."

I don't see another way to interpret that.

Flinty997 · 20-09-2022 12:11pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119641128#Comment_119641128

Strawman as a poll. Classic tbh.

El Tarangu · 20-09-2022 12:12pm

No thanks - if accepting the notion of the divine right of kings/queens was a precondition of reunification with NI, I'd rather not

ohnonotgmail · 20-09-2022 12:14pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119641146#Comment_119641146

try to read to the end of the sentence

would you support the Crown as head of state in a United Ireland

the deceased queen is no longer the crown what with being dead and all.

Skyfloater · 20-09-2022 12:15pm

Wasn't this along with and /or rejoining the British commonwealth being suggested as a sweetener to unionists, as a way to steer them towards thinking that they would be less isolated in a united Ireland.

triddles · 20-09-2022 12:17pm

No

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119641107#Comment_119641107

Its just a load of brits and bizzare irish "eccentrics" on that thread. Its in no way a representation of ireland. The thread is also modded by a big royalist so that doesnt help matters. It should be changed to an RIP thread only as anything that detracts from the dead sexual abuse apologist gets banned.

ancapailldorcha · 20-09-2022 12:18pm

No

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119641165#Comment_119641165

It's been put forward a few times, usually with no elaboration beyond pasting links if even that. I wonder if people who suggest this have ever seen hardcore Unionists. If they're insisting on rubbing a battle from over 320 years ago into Nationalists' faces, they won't care about the Commonwealth.

Flinty997 · 20-09-2022 12:18pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119641160#Comment_119641160

Try to understand the context. The queens popularity (and pubic turn out for a funeral) doesn't automatically transfer to the next in line, or the monarchy in general. Not least for the purpose of reinstating a monarchy in "Ireland". What ever "Ireland" means.

[Deleted User] · 20-09-2022 12:19pm

No

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119641118#Comment_119641118

Not a wind up at all. Why do people think that an idea like this is a wind up? I’m simply trying to gauge how much support the idea of a monarchy might have as a unifying and largely empty role?

ohnonotgmail · 20-09-2022 12:19pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119641184#Comment_119641184

they are not asking for the deceased queen to be head of state of a united ireland. it isn't hard to understand.

[Deleted User] · 20-09-2022 12:25pm

No

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119641129#Comment_119641129

I don’t see how floating a poll on an idea that might have some merit in a United Ireland as a way of engaging unionism would stir s*. There is a lot of admiration for the late Queen, King Charles was a visitor as Prince here long before Lizzie. How foreign is the Crown in a United Ireland? A lot of British settled here, 1 million unionists, southern unionism stirring again.

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