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Are LOI Fans West Brits?

  • 11-09-2022 10:27am
    Registered Users Posts: 1,270 ✭✭✭Count Dracula

    I lived in the UK many times over the centuries and have developed a glowing interest in their national game, soccer. Now as a spectator sport I find it very unenjoyable and bland. It is littered with screaming wimpish Primadonna's rolling around the floor in feign agony. However, as a sporting vehicle and topic of discussion I find it enthralling. I love the tribalism it has developed, especially in Britain whereby the real genuine fans all support their local team, buy the jersey and get involved in all its' domestic offer. I find that noble and quite honest, it must give British people a great sense of national pride and identity.

    I had the misfortune of watching the distasteful clips of Rovers fans acting like British soccer fans whilst mimicking the world renowned terrace chanting during the week. Chanting and singing from the terraces is a resounding British pastime, used to berate and antagonise your opponents fans from across the field. I first witnessed it during medieval times when it was common for opposing British armies to sing and chant at each other across the field of battle.

    Why do Irish soccer fans act like British ones? Are they West Brits ?



  • Registered Users Posts: 12,071 ✭✭✭✭Danzy

    Most are just normal people, the West Brit acting is just during games.

  • Registered Users Posts: 516 ✭✭✭MakersMark

    Long term unemployed???

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  • Registered Users Posts: 19,433 ✭✭✭✭dxhound2005

    He had a good film career back in the 1970's but things have gone a bit quiet since.

  • Registered Users Posts: 9,879 ✭✭✭EmmetSpiceland

    Has the English imitation chanting been going on that long?

    I assumed it was a recent development that had “sprung up” with the sheer number of fickle ex-Manchester United fans who have stopped supporting their club, due to them not being very good anymore, and taken to supporting LoI teams, mostly either Rovers or Bohs.

    I know the league had done a lot of work attracting new fans, hipsters got into it, but nothing could compare to the boost they got when ex-Man United fans started making up lame excuses to avoid the “banter” of Liverpool fans, who were in their ascendancy.

    Hopefully Man United will continue to stutter so the LoI attendances will stay relatively high as a result. But you’d have to worry with such fair weather “fans” propping it all up.

    The tide is turning…

  • Registered Users Posts: 14,282 ✭✭✭✭Fr Tod Umptious

    Probably been around since Sky and the Celtic tiger.

    One brought more soccer to our media and gave people the chance to hear more chanting.

    The other gave people the money to travel to games in the UK and hear the chanting for themselves.

  • Registered Users Posts: 1,270 ✭✭✭Count Dracula

    I am not sure that you understand the sentiment of my opening comment.

    I have no issue with Irish people supporting any sport. It is the behaviour of Irish soccer fans acting like British ones that I find intriguing.

    Why do they behave and act like British people when they attend matches is my question?

    It is a contrasting irony imo. Especially considering they spend their time and money and what is essentially global pastime. I have been to soccer games all over the planet, I have witnessed a variety of crowd behaviour. But none of them copy British culture like your average LOI fan.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,990 ✭✭✭tastyt

    A few teenage drunken scumbags does not define the supporters

    you will often see groups young lads pissed and annoying people at GAA matches . Is that what I think of when I think of a GAA fan ? No it’s not . And it’s not what I think of when I think of a Sligo rovers , Derry City or Dundalk fan either . It’s just local people supporting their local team

  • Posts: 6,192 ✭✭✭ Coraline Clumsy Teaspoonful

    Always taught the singing was to give entertainment to paper over the poor quality offered on pitch particularly in premier league

    The LOI being different in that teams tend to be reasonably well matched,and can on an entertainment level be quite pleasent chanting in English accents is weird though

  • Registered Users Posts: 3,580 ✭✭✭Greyfox

    Every genuine football fan knows that chanting and singing from terraces happens all over the world. Also the word West Brit is a very childish slur.

  • Registered Users Posts: 8,099 ✭✭✭pgj2015

    LOI fans are real fans, most don't support British teams and if they do, they come second after their LOI club.

  • Registered Users Posts: 7,630 ✭✭✭StupidLikeAFox

    What I want to know is who writes the chants, who decides what catchy tunes are the best and who distributes the lyrics?

    I know the chants aren't very complex but surely you have a lot of guys learning off these little poems before the matches so they can sing them on the terraces

  • Registered Users Posts: 1,816 ✭✭✭CGI_Livia_Soprano
    Holding tyrants to the fire

    I enjoy watching soccer but I absolutely despise Irish soccer “culture.” It’s like a bad facsimile of British hooliganism from the 80s, complete with chanting in broad English accents and racist and homophobic slurs a mile long.

    The worst thing is that it crept into the GAA over the past ten years, with the aforementioned chanting and “Hill 16” appropriation for Dublin GAA à la The Kop. I think it’s because so many of the big Irish clubs are in Dublin, where “West Britishness” has been rampant for centuries (the Pale, the Crown’s home in Ireland being in Dublin and so on).

    Ireland is full (of transphobic racists)


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,270 ✭✭✭Count Dracula

    I can understand a LOI fan having a love for the game.

    Why do they also support a British club though?

    Why not Ajax, Barcelona or AC Milan?

    Lots of LOI fans I know also wear British soccer jerseys. Is this why they sing and chant in British accents?

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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,442 ✭✭✭bad2thebone

    There can only be one lol I don't feel alone now :D

  • Registered Users Posts: 32,460 ✭✭✭✭Princess Consuela Bananahammock

    Do people still use the phrase "wesr Brit"....? In 2022?

    Went through a phase where I watched LOI - found it boring and over-priced. Never attached to a team, but went to every Dublin venue a few times and Bray. I do "follow" a premier league team, but have never been to a fixture, so I'm not sure if "follow" is the right word. As to the reason? Quality of the product.

    Plus, I don't see why nationality has to do with liking a certain product. Am I "west Frenchie" because I drink a glass of champagne?

    If this post contains the phrase "we're done here" it means I've proven what I set out to prove and I don't want to keep going round in circles.

    It's not about "winning" it's about illustrating a point.

  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,318 Mod ✭✭✭✭riffmongous

    That depends on the fans and how they are organised.. in mainland Europe it will be the Ultras groups, I don't know about England. The Ultras will often have a captain who acts as DJ and picks out the setlist

  • Registered Users Posts: 1,270 ✭✭✭Count Dracula

  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,318 Mod ✭✭✭✭riffmongous

    Pat's and Bohs are actually copying European soccer fan culture rather than British, the flares, the choreo, the fan groups.

  • Registered Users Posts: 32,460 ✭✭✭✭Princess Consuela Bananahammock

    Not all team have ultra groups, but I've seen a lot of not-so-well-known teams have a "cheerleader" - usually a guy on a platform with a megaphone.

    Pic taken at Babelsburg 03 (German 4th division) about 5 or 6 years ago.

    If this post contains the phrase "we're done here" it means I've proven what I set out to prove and I don't want to keep going round in circles.

    It's not about "winning" it's about illustrating a point.

  • Registered Users Posts: 1,270 ✭✭✭Count Dracula

    Well I can absolutely fathom the concept of cheerleading, it is prominent across most team sports.

    No harm imo.

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  • Registered Users Posts: 9,879 ✭✭✭EmmetSpiceland

    I don’t think St. Pats have been involved in too much crowd “trouble” of late, have they? Well, they’ve been attacked by Bohs supporters before a cup final recently but they can’t be blamed for that.

    Wasn’t there also some “drama” involving Shamrock Rovers fan setting off fireworks at an away game too?

    No, I wouldn’t be lumping St. Pats fans in with Bohs at all. It’s clear the troublemakers are, almost exclusively, within the ranks of Rovers and Bohs supporters.

    Both of whom’s ranks would have swollen in recent years with a large number of, fickle, ex-Manchester United fans, possibly bringing with them a more English “flavour” to their support.

    The tide is turning…