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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,220 ✭✭✭✭ELM327


    Yes, I only fill with as much as needed. If I'm using the 900w kettle it means loads are at a premium!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,684 ✭✭✭bullit_dodger


    I use Alexa pretty heavily with a variety of smart plugs and can confirm "The case of the missing TCP/IP packet" - LOL. Where you go...

    "Alexa turn off the living room lamp". Alexa responds with "OK" and then ..... nothing happens.

    You say it again, and it works fine. Suspect that it's on the Alexa side of things as if you do it programmatically, or through the smart plugs phone app, works every time. Not a deal breaker, more an annoyance than anything - and easily rectified. Just thought I'd share so that you know it's not you in isolation.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 66,734 ✭✭✭✭unkel


    If you fill the same amount in the 3000W kettle, surely you'll agree that it will boil much quicker than twice as quick as the 900W kettle? 😂

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,585 ✭✭✭DC999


    Yeah, I customise the message Alexa responds with for that reason. Then if I hear 'ok' I know it thinks it's doing a different voice command and I say it again. Less words in a voice command are better I’ve found.

    Btw, my wife wasn't sure if I was a nutter or genius when I first asked Alexa to turn off the dishwasher (it runs on a timer on the smart plug) 😊

    Can even get Alexa to check how much battery is in our EV - that's a bit hit and miss but that's fully down to the Nissan cloud getting the updates from the car, not Alexa. There's a lot Alexa can do automation wise



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,684 ✭✭✭bullit_dodger


    Yeah, the GivEnergy system that I have has a "Alexa Skill" plug in, so I can ask Alexa the SOC and give some basic commands. Pretty neat.

    Ok, for me as a software developer sitting at my PC for hours on end, it's more of a gimmick as I could easily just go to the webportal and make any configuration changes there. Still kudos to them for doing the work.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,585 ✭✭✭DC999


    That's still handy for others in the house. They could ask for battery SOC and then turn on a heater if was at a decent level



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,200 ✭✭✭✭the_amazing_raisin


    This reminds me of a presentation about how software engineers manipulate human behaviour

    The idea is when you buy something online and after you pay you get the confirmation page, it's actually meaningless. There's no way they have processed your order through the various databases in the time it takes to load the page.

    It's only when you get the confirmation email that the order is processed, the confirmation page is only there to tell you the website has received your request

    Similar thing happens with Alexa, when she says okay it doesn't mean the command has been processed, it's only her acknowledging that she heard a command

    Fun trivia, the same theory is why McDonald's have 3 stops at the drive through while everyone else has two. The orders don't get filled any quicker because there's the same number of workers, but it creates the illusion of progress for the customer

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,220 ✭✭✭✭ELM327


    Havent tested it as generally I fill the kettle vs put just over 1 cup in the 900w, but realistically the 900w should be 9/30 the speed of the 3kW kettle!

    What I have noticed in testing is that the comparison wouldnt be linear. The 900w kettle pulls 950-1000w draw from the inverter from the power on to the click off. The usual kettle draws 3.5kW and then tails off gradually.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,350 ✭✭✭✭KCross


    Which one of you is going to test it and provide the two "boil curves"! 😀



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 66,734 ✭✭✭✭unkel


    Could well be. Fact is that it takes a certain amount of energy to bring a certain amount of water up from x temp to y temp. And elements are 100% efficient. So if it takes 100Wh to bring your cup up to the required temp, this is usually provided a lot quicker from a 3000W power source than from a 900W power source 😂

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,200 ✭✭✭✭the_amazing_raisin


    It's worth keeping in mind that while the element is 100% efficient, not all the heat gets transferred to the water, some will be lost to the surroundings


    Probably not much overall, but I suspect those flat plate kettles are a bit less efficient than the ones with the element inside

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,200 ✭✭✭✭the_amazing_raisin


    I think I saw someone had already done that in the UK for electric vs gas a while ago


    Would love to see an update video, I'd say a cup of tea requires a mortgage these days

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 66,734 ✭✭✭✭unkel


    The element is submerged in water. Where else do you think the heat is going? 🤣


    Maybe that's enough of the kettle discussion anyway...

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,200 ✭✭✭✭the_amazing_raisin


    I have to say, this thread is really living up to its name 😁

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,524 ✭✭✭Gerry


    just as FYI, after being unable to contact Sse to renew my smart meter plan, spending several half hours on hold and not getting a callback, I got the message through to them by switching to Energia. Wish I'd done this sooner, its all they listen to.

    SSE emailed next day and offered 15% to renew for the year which takes a lot of the annoyance away. I'm still annoyed about how difficult they have made this and having a 4% discount for the worst bill of the year, so I'm going to ring customer service and see about getting some more credit.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,691 ✭✭✭THE ALM


    Nice ground mount system from about 9mins, the Cornish Rocker.

    An 18th Century Home Meets 21st Century Technologies | Everything Electric Show - YouTube

    Nice smooth looking adjustment on it with a couple of nuts to loosen and tighten.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 563 ✭✭✭The devils


    Very good 👍 enjoyed that ALM.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,691 ✭✭✭THE ALM


    Would be interesting to see the price on it, I would have plenty of room for it.



  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators Posts: 7,137 Mod ✭✭✭✭graememk


    Also you dont need a airtight house/high ber etc to have a heatpump.

    Also Panels working away perfectly being 12 yrs old.

    The new Ground mount is really nice, Thats really clever design, Counter balanced,

    The joints and such look fairly standard, Shouldnt be "that" expensive



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 16,995 Mod ✭✭✭✭Manic Moran


    Well, we've had a couple of power cuts, so I decided to put my backup supply to a stress test.

    Fitting a powerwall (etc) to the house is something like $12,000 I don't want to spend. This camping battery is $1200, not counting the $400 I have for a panel to extend things a bit.

    Runs both fridge-freezers at the same time (combined about 450watts max), seems that it'll last about four hours. If it's a long cut, run the fridges a bit, unplug and charge, run again.

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  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators Posts: 8,309 Mod ✭✭✭✭Jonathan


    Check out engineer775 on YT. He has a couple of videos using the Sol-Ark 15k which has an inbuilt transfer switch. Could be a nice solution.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,691 ✭✭✭THE ALM


    That is an old house alright, the thermal mass in the wall would be a help I would imagine once up to temp.



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 19,945 Mod ✭✭✭✭slave1


    Love that guy, nice big installs, lots of ground mounts

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,106 ✭✭✭silver_sky


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,146 ✭✭✭paulbok


    Anyone come across suppliers here selling plug in integrated roof panel kits?

    Have only found a crowd in the UK but would expect importing from there will be a nightmare/ cost prohibited

    https://www.iqbuildersmerchant.com/in-roof-integrated-solar-panel-kits-10251-c.asp



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,513 ✭✭✭con747


    What about using a service like this https://www.deliverme.ie/faq and collecting or get a quote on delivery.

    Don't expect anything from life, just be grateful to be alive.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 623 ✭✭✭idc


    Maybe not the right thread but know some of you have tried infrared panels. Just saw this article. Instead of a panel embedded in strip of wallpaper on ceiling



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,200 ✭✭✭✭the_amazing_raisin


    I think they're a decent idea but personally I don't like the feel of them. I feel like I'm being cooked, like when you open the grill on full blast or sit close to a fire


    I do like how easy it is to use them as diverters. While a heat pump is more efficient in theory, I suspect if it was cycling a lot it might lose a good deal of efficiency and wear out quicker. Infrared panels at least are 100% efficient all the time

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,048 ✭✭✭jkforde


    great, more power to any innovation, as long as the embedded energy and waste don't negate their apparent eco-credentials!

    🌦️ 6.7kwp, 45°, SSW, mid-Galway 🌦️

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 66,734 ✭✭✭✭unkel


    Your panel is too powerful and / or you are sitting too close to it 😁

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