2022 NFL season - Regular Season Thread - Picks etc.

eagle eye

Dak has been awful tonight. Bucs D has been good but Prescott has thrown a lot of balls off target. Their running game has been good but they are not using it enough.

The Bucs lead 19-3 and they've been pretty poor in the red zone. Fournette is playing really well but he's got very few opportunities near the goal line which is very surprising. I think they'd be up a lot more if he was used, they've one touchdown from I think six visits deep in Cowboys territory.

Xavi6

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119606021#Comment_119606021

Plenty said that Mahomes would regress without Hill to stretch the field for him and Mahomes is believed to have a bit of a chip on his shoulder about it. Nine different receivers, five passing touchdowns, and no interceptions is a nice rebuttal.

Foxtrol

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119606030#Comment_119606030

Ah come on, this is completely manufactured chip on the shoulder nonsense that is always laughable when a very successful player does it. I understand players using whatever they can as an excuse to motivate themselves but dont try to claim there is any real validity to it - I've called this out before with other players in the past too. Mahomes was one of the favourites for MVP in the offseason and the Chiefs were one of the SB favourites.

I'd also throw a bit of caution that the Cardinals look even worse than expected. Will be interesting if he keeps up such strong form against the Chargers.

Morrisseeee

Yesssss.......bring on the dark Sunday evenings/nights ;)

I think Von Millar has joined another SB winning team, they were very impressive.

eagle eye

Geno Smith currently 12 for 12 for 98 yards and 1 TD.

Seahawks lead 10-3 currently but they lost Jamal Adams, likely for the rest of the game.

eagle eye

And just like that there's a hole in the Seahawks defense and Jerry Jeudy goes 67 yards for the TD to tie things up.

TheDoctor

Well this has been a pleasant surprise so far from the Hawks side

eagle eye

Seahawks win 17-16 over Russell Wilson and the Broncos. In fairness Geno Smith did well.

Christy42

Geno did well. No idea what that was from Hackett at the end. Why make a kicker go for a career long there? You have time and timeouts. You have to believe in Russ on 4th and 5. If you don't then you are dumber for trading for him. Stick the game in his hands rather than going for the 2nd longest kick ever with a kicker who is 1 and 8 from 60+ yards (and the 1 was 61 yards). Then why do you show off all your timeouts by using them on the kneel downs? No effect on the game but just makes you look bad.

collybyrne

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119585080#Comment_119585080

11 - 5 to start the season. The Colts and Bengals really screwed me out of a good week! Very enjoyable weekend of football. Thought the Chiefs looked absolutely incredible. Mahomes looking a different level again. Pity the Cards weren't more of a match for them though, their D never really asked any questions at all.

Chargers Raiders probably the other stand-out game for me with Herbert picking up right where he left off. For all the promise McDaniels brings to the raiders along with their off-season additions, you still can't help but feel their ceiling will always be limited by Carr. Not that he's a bad QB by any means but he's clearly a level below the best in the league. Standard is so high these days, especially in the AFC.

Tough start to the year for any Cowboys fans out there. Was really looking forward to seeing the evolution of that offense with Cooper gone. I read today that best case scenario Prescott's back week 6. Here's hoping you guys can stay competitive until then.

Anyways, great tot be back. Chargers and Chiefs on Thursday night should be another cracker.

Optimus Caesar

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119585399#Comment_119585399

8-8. Dreadful start.

Paleface

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119590457#Comment_119590457

9 - 7

Some wild games to open the season!

Oat23

Trading 5 picks and 3 players for Russell Wilson then giving him a $250m contract only to take the ball out of his hands on 4th and 5 in favour of kicking a 64 yard field goal might just be the worst decision I've seen a coach make.

collybyrne

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119613184#Comment_119613184

I suggest you watch the Seahawks last offensive play of Superbowl 49.................

Oat23

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119613481#Comment_119613481

There's a lot more to what happened at the goal line back then though. It wasn't a simple as Carroll making an awful decision. For starters, their clock management was dreadful and time was ticking down, so in a panic they ran one of their staple plays and the Patriots were expecting it. It was an all round coaching shitshow and a calamity of errors that led to it.

Hackett had all the time in the world to decide what he wanted to do last night and he asked an altitude kicker who is a coin flip over 50 and 1-8 beyond 60 to kick a 64 yarder at sea level when he had Russell Wilson at QB.

tripperman

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119587539#Comment_119587539

8 8 not a great start

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119584867#Comment_119584867

9-7

paulie21

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119587371#Comment_119587371

Looks like a 7-9 start. Very poor

paulie21

Week 2

Thursday Night 1.20am

Chargers @ Chiefs

Sunday 6pm

Patriots @ Steelers

Jets @ Browns

Commanders @ Lions

Buccaneers @ Saints

Panthers @ Giants

Colts @ Jaguars

Dolphins @ Ravens

Sunday 9.05pm

Seahawks @ 49ers

Falcons @ Rams

Sunday 9.25pm

Bengals @ Cowboys

Texans @ Broncos

Cardinals @ Raiders

Sunday Night 1.20am

Bears @ Packers

Monday Night

Titans @ Bills (12.15am)

Vikings @ Eagles (1.30am)

Week 2

Thursday Night 1.20am

Chargers @ Chiefs

Sunday 6pm

Patriots @ Steelers

Jets @ Browns

Commanders @ Lions

Buccaneers @ Saints

Panthers @ Giants

Colts @ Jaguars

Dolphins @ Ravens

Sunday 9.05pm

Seahawks @ 49ers

Falcons @ Rams

Sunday 9.25pm

Bengals @ Cowboys

Texans @ Broncos

Cardinals @ Raiders

Sunday Night 1.20am

Bears @ Packers

Monday Night

Titans @ Bills (12.15am)

Vikings @ Eagles (1.30am)

al87987

9-7 from Week 1.

Week 2

Thursday Night 1.20am

Chargers @ Chiefs - Chiefs

Sunday 6pm

Patriots @ Steelers - Steelers

Jets @ Browns - Browns

Commanders @ Lions - Lions

Buccaneers @ Saints - Saints

Panthers @ Giants - Giants

Colts @ Jaguars - Jags

Dolphins @ Ravens - Ravens

Sunday 9.05pm

Seahawks @ 49ers - Seahawks

Falcons @ Rams - Rams

Sunday 9.25pm

Bengals @ Cowboys - Bengals

Texans @ Broncos - Broncos

Cardinals @ Raiders - Raiders

Sunday Night 1.20am

Bears @ Packers - Packers

Monday Night

Titans @ Bills (12.15am) - Bills

Vikings @ Eagles (1.30am) - Eagles

Optimus Caesar

Week 2

Chargers @ Chiefs

Patriots @ Steelers

Jets @ Browns

Commanders @ Lions

Buccaneers @ Saints

Panthers @ Giants

Colts @ Jaguars

Dolphins @ Ravens

Seahawks @ 49ers

Falcons @ Rams

Bengals @ Cowboys

Texans @ Broncos

Cardinals @ Raiders

Bears @ Packers

Titans @ Bills

Vikings @ Eagles

adrian522

8-8

Week 2

Chargers @ Chiefs

Patriots @ Steelers

Jets @ Browns

Commanders @ Lions

Buccaneers @ Saints

Panthers @ Giants

Colts @ Jaguars

Dolphins @ Ravens

Seahawks @ 49ers

Falcons @ Rams

Bengals @ Cowboys

Texans @ Broncos

Cardinals @ Raiders

Bears @ Packers

Titans @ Bills

Vikings @ Eagles

Foxtrol

8-8 after week 1

Chargers @ Chiefs

Patriots @ Steelers

Jets @ Browns

Commanders @ Lions

Buccaneers @ Saints

Panthers @ Giants

Colts @ Jaguars

Dolphins @ Ravens

Seahawks @ 49ers

Falcons @ Rams

Bengals @ Cowboys

Texans @ Broncos

Cardinals @ Raiders

Bears @ Packers

Titans @ Bills

Vikings @ Eagles

Itssoeasy

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119587434#Comment_119587434

8-8 for week which isn’t great but it’s week 1.

eagle eye

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119613481#Comment_119613481

This is a very amateurish comment in hindsight.

If the Seahawks converted there Caroll automatically becomes a genius, if it's incomplete there is nothing about it but because Butler made a brilliant play it's a dreadful decision. Let's not remember that the Seahawks had only one timeout left, what happens if Lynch gets stopped? Then you have to use that last timeout. The whole world was waiting for Lynch to run with the ball, the Patriots were showing that they were selling out to stop the run.

What happens if they give the ball to Lynch twice and he fails to score. Well I'll tell you what would've happened, the press would say that Carroll should have went to the air on second down against a defensive genius like Belichick to spread out the defense on third down and save the timeout.

Pete Carroll won a Superbowl the year before. Pete Carroll won two college football national championships. Pete Carroll is one of the greatest coaches in the modern era. He's always been aggressive on offense and went for it on fourth downs inside the opponent's half long before it became a popular thing to do.

Pete Carroll took over a Seattle team which had went 4-12 and 5-11 the two seasons before he took over and built a Superbowl winning team in four years.

The stupidity is those calling that one play a horrendous decision. It's stupid people calling a coaching master stupid.

paulie21

7-9

Chargers @ Chiefs

Patriots @ Steelers

Jets @ Browns

Commanders @ Lions

Buccaneers @ Saints

Panthers @ Giants

Colts @ Jaguars

Dolphins @ Ravens

Seahawks @ 49ers

Falcons @ Rams

Bengals @ Cowboys

Texans @ Broncos

Cardinals @ Raiders

Bears @ Packers

Titans @ Bills

Vikings @ Eagles

tripperman

Week 2

Thursday Night 1.20am

Chargers @ Chiefs

Sunday 6pm

Patriots @ Steelers

Jets @ Browns

Commanders @ Lions

Buccaneers @ Saints

Panthers @ Giants

Colts @ Jaguars

Dolphins @ Ravens

Sunday 9.05pm

Seahawks @ 49ers

Falcons @ Rams

Sunday 9.25pm

Bengals @ Cowboys

Texans @ Broncos

Cardinals @ Raiders

Sunday Night 1.20am

Bears @ Packers

Monday Night

Titans @ Bills (12.15am)

Vikings @ Eagles (1.30am)

8 8 entering week 2

Kev8360

Always forget to do this week 1 so i am 0-16 so far :)

Week 2

Thursday Night

Chargers @ Chiefs

Sunday

Patriots @ Steelers

Jets @ Browns

Commanders @ Lions

Buccaneers @ Saints

Panthers @ Giants

Colts @ Jaguars

Dolphins @ Ravens

Seahawks @ 49ers

Falcons @ Rams

Bengals @ Cowboys

Texans @ Broncos

Cardinals @ Raiders

Bears @ Packers

Monday Night

Titans @ Bills

Vikings @ Eagles

ChampagneFever

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119585451#Comment_119585451

Abysmal start - 4-12. Go again.

Week 2

Thursday Night 1.20am

Chargers @ Chiefs

Sunday 6pm

Patriots @ Steelers

Jets @ Browns

Commanders @ Lions

Buccaneers @ Saints

Panthers @ Giants

Colts @ Jaguars

Dolphins @ Ravens

Sunday 9.05pm

Seahawks @ 49ers

Falcons @ Rams

Sunday 9.25pm

Bengals @ Cowboys

Texans @ Broncos

Cardinals @ Raiders

Sunday Night 1.20am

Bears @ Packers

Monday Night

Titans @ Bills (12.15am)

Vikings @ Eagles (1.30am)

Paleface

9 - 7

Week 2

Chargers @ Chiefs

Patriots @ Steelers

Jets @ Browns

Commanders @ Lions

Buccaneers @ Saints

Panthers @ Giants

Colts @ Jaguars

Dolphins @ Ravens

Seahawks @ 49ers

Falcons @ Rams

Bengals @ Cowboys

Texans @ Broncos

Cardinals @ Raiders

Bears @ Packers

Titans @ Bills

Vikings @ Eagles

cosatron

7-9 after week 1

Chargers @ Chiefs

Patriots @ Steelers

Jets @ Browns

Commanders @ Lions

Buccaneers @ Saints

Panthers @ Giants

Colts @ Jaguars

Dolphins @ Ravens

Seahawks @ 49ers

Falcons @ Rams

Bengals @ Cowboys

Texans @ Broncos

Cardinals @ Raiders

Bears @ Packers

Titans @ Bills

Vikings @ Eagles

Itssoeasy

8-8 after week 1.

Week 2

Thursday Night 1.20am

Chargers @ Chiefs 

Sunday 6pm

Patriots @ Steelers 

Jets @ Browns 

Commanders @ Lions 

Buccaneers @ Saints 

Panthers @ Giants 

Colts @ Jaguars 

Dolphins @ Ravens 

Sunday 9.05pm

Seahawks @ 49ers 

Falcons @ Rams 

Sunday 9.25pm

Bengals @ Cowboys 

Texans @ Broncos 

Cardinals @ Raiders 

Sunday Night 1.20am

Bears @ Packers 

Monday Night 

Titans @ Bills (12.15am)

Vikings @ Eagles (1.30am)

collybyrne

11 - 5 coming in

Chargers @ Chiefs

Patriots @ Steelers

Jets @ Browns

Commanders @ Lions

Buccaneers @ Saints

Panthers @ Giants

Colts @ Jaguars

Dolphins @ Ravens

Seahawks @ 49ers

Falcons @ Rams

Bengals @ Cowboys

Texans @ Broncos

Cardinals @ Raiders

Bears @ Packers

Titans @ Bills

Vikings @ Eagles

collybyrne

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119620549#Comment_119620549

What an extraordinary over reaction. Criticising a single decision is not the same thing as calling someone stupid. I think Pete Carroll is a great coach and a great man. Great coaches make bad calls too. You're a Pats fan, I'm sure you can agree Bellicheck has made some poor decisions over the years without thinking he's stupid or somehow a bad coach?

You may not think the decision to not use Lynch from the 1 yard line was a bad call. That's fine. But many other experienced journalists and former players widely agreed it was one of if not the worst call of all time. I just happen to agree with them.

eagle eye

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119623276#Comment_119623276

Reporters need to write, get reaction etc. A lot of them are just about that.

Fact of the matter is it was a good call because the Patriots were expecting the run and they only had one timeout left. Butler made a great play and that gets lost in all the crap talked by those looking for clicks.

Part of the reason the best coaches are the best is they rarely if ever make mistakes. Pete Carroll didn't make a mistake calling that play on second down, it made perfect sense for multiple reasons. As I said, if the pass is caught you have a competely different narrative where Carroll is a genius for going exactly where the Patriots weren't expecting. That's from the same reporters who called it a horrendous decision.

eagle eye

Great game between the Chiefs and Chargers. Currently 24-17 Chiefs and Herbert got a hit and is down but looks like he was okay as he left the field. Chargers on the move right now but they've struggled since halftime. And they have to punt this time with four minutes left in the game.

eagle eye

Chiefs off to the races immediately with a big one to Edwards-Hilaire on the first play and a facemask on top of it. Just outside the 20 now and in great shape to finish it off.

Xavi6

2-0 and a big division win, great second half performance against a good team.

Carcharodon

I don’t think I’ve ever posted here but Iam a big nfl fan, I’ve lived in the bay for 20 years now, big niners fan, should be another fun/frustrating season, Jimmy G will probably be in by week 4…lol Not sure how the whole thing will play out, so many caveats to the situation, it’s not easy having a good team with a rookie QB that hasn’t shown a whole lot but it’s early but people are also not very patient.

I really like KC so far, I think Mahomes has a chip on his shoulder, they are by no means perfect but I bet them for Super Bowl winners a few weeks ago and I think they will be in good shape, they are in control of the division now.

I also backed the niners a few months ago so Iam obviously an idiot, I thought they were going to snatch Brady

collybyrne

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119624599#Comment_119624599

I disagree with almost everything you've said here! Which is fine by the way. The topic is entirely subjective and full of hypotheticals. It's perfectly legitimate for us to have two differing opinions on this without one of us needing to be "amateurish" or "stupid".

Surely if a commentator was looking for a reaction they would say something against the popular consensus? I don't remember anyone getting a reaction for saying they should have handed it off to Lynch. As I recall it was considered a statement of the obvious at the time.

The Patriots had sold out on the run literally the play before that one. Lynch made 5 yards. He only needed one this time.

Your statement about coaches rarely making bad decisions in no way rebuts what I said. I agree Carroll is a great coach. Even the greats make bad calls from time to time. As for the outcome determining the strength of the decision, that is literally true for every walk of life and particularly so for elite sports. Bad outcome very often equates to bad decision. There's nothing controversial in that.

Pete Carroll had the option to hand the ball to arguably the best running back of his generation, in the form of his life, behind an O-Line who at that point in the game were on top of a tiring Pats D, at the one yard line, to win a Superbowl. Yes he risked needing to burn a timeout, that risk is still less than the risk of being intercepted on a pass play.

I'm not trying to convince you I'm right and you're wrong here. I'm just illustrating the logic behind my opinion. I made what I thought was a light-hearted comment, comparing a first year head coach in his first game making a bad call between 4th and 5 or a 64-yard field goal with the clock expiring to one of the most experienced coaches and reigning Superbowl champion making a call that quite likely cost his team a championship.

Christy42

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119624599#Comment_119624599

The Patriots put on extra defensive backs for the play. They matched up with Seattle and hadn't really sold out in either direction.

The play chosen turned it into effectively a 2 v 2 as they attempted to pick the corner back to get a receiver free. They weren't attacking behind the linebackers (who would be playing the run). It was a quick pass, no one who was interested in playing the run got involved from the Pats side.

For me it was a mistake. Butler did a great job to make them pay for it with the game and credit to him. It can be multiple things. Just because a coach is a good coach does not mean he doesn't make mistakes, especially in the nfl where coaching just isn't a meritocracy.

eagle eye

The huge thing was the timeout situation. I've no doubt his plan was to run on third and fourth down if things didn't work out on second down. It'd be stupid to run the ball with one timeout left on second down.

If you fail to get it in you are struggling to get back to the line and get a play off to give you time for fourth down.

As I've said, Malcolm Butler made a great play. That gets lost in the crap being talked about Carroll's decision. If you don't remember it have a look at it again, it wasn't a bad play just a great play by Butler.

Tbh it should have been called as PI because Butler collided with the receiver just before the ball arrived. Again all this gets lost in the crap said about Carroll.

collybyrne

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119626928#Comment_119626928

I agree that Butler made a great play and that it was potentially PI. What you're missing out on there though is that none of those things can ever happen if the Seahawks hand it off to Lynch. The problem is still the decision to pass.

You said yourself they were trying to do something the Patriots weren't expecting. However as the training footage released after the Superbowl showed, the Patriots had prepared for that exact play, although Butler missed the INT in training. Carroll tried to outfox Bellicheck with the call. He lost. Hence the conclusion that it was a bad call.

Not a slight on Carroll as a coach or a person, just an assessment that with the resources available to him on the 1 yard line at that stage in the game, he made a bad shout.

eagle eye

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119624754#Comment_119624754

Welcome to the forum. Stick around, we need more people here.

eagle eye

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119627258#Comment_119627258

Theres a difference in saying it was a bad call and calling it the worst call in history or worst call in the history of the Superbowl.

I don't agree that it was a bad call given they only had one timeout left. I'm a Patriots fan and I think we got really lucky that Butler came out of nowhere to make the int. I was sure there would be a flag but there wasn't and we won which was great.

collybyrne

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119627545#Comment_119627545

In fairness, if you think it's a bad call, it's hard to think of a worse one.

I read that analysis in tandem with Carroll's explanation at the time. I disagreed with it then and I respectfully disagree with your opinion now. That argument is just based on if's and maybe's. If x had have happened then maybe y would have happened. Then if y had have happened then maybe z would have happened. Then if z had have happened people would call Pete Carroll stupid.

What about just playing what's in front of your face and punching it in from the 1 yard line with one of the best running backs of all time. Alot of good the timeout was to them when Brady was kneeling down with the ball in his hand and another ring in his pocket.

Anyways, good talking to you man. Enjoy the games this weekend. Here's hoping the Pats can bounce back and pick up a win on the road.

eagle eye

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119627698#Comment_119627698

Nobody is expecting an interception on a short throw like that.

You've got three downs and one timeout. It makes perfect sense not to run it on second down because you have third and fourth down to do that.

The IFS I mention are real, I'd the ball isn't intercepted and is incomplete there isn't a word about it. If it's caught and it's a TD then Carroll is a genius. So you nit realise how stupid thus becomes based on outcomes.

The least likely to occur is what happened. I thought it was being caught until Butler came out of nowhere. As I said it should have been a pi on Butler. If the PI is called then we don't hear a word about throwing it on second down.

It's just all nonsense. With one timeout it's the correct decision any way you look at it.

collybyrne

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119627802#Comment_119627802

If's, by their very definition, are not real. That's why they're if's.

Bellicheck was expecting an interception. There is literally footage of him coaching Malcolm Butler how to do it against that play call earlier in the week of the game.

Pete Carroll bet against Bellicheck having prepared for that play in that situation. He got it wrong in a massive spot. Arguably the biggest spot in Super Bowl history.

You state that it "makes perfect sense", it's a "matter of fact" and that it's "the correct decision any way you look at it" as if you're the sole authority on the matter. These are all just your opinion based on an analysis that doesn't take into account the fact that Marshawn Lynch was standing in the back field and had just mowed through the Patriots run D for 5 yards in the play right before.

Of course there's logic in Carroll's explanation and the use of a pass play on second down etc. etc. There's probably logic in multiple other explanations and possible scenarios.

It's my belief there's more logic in handing it to Lynch and letting him punch it in.

We could go round and round and round on this. There is literally no right answer as it's an entirely subjective matter. No one is ever going to be able to prove any of the alternate scenarios. All we can ever have is an opinion. I have tried my best to respect yours while simultaneously illustrating why I disagree. You have referred to my opinion as "amateurish", "stupid" and now decided that you personally know what was "the correct decision any way you look at it". Regardless of the fact that many of the games most respected analysts, former players and coaches agreed it was one of the worst calls of all time. Even Pete Carroll's own players thought it was a terrible call.

I don't know where else to go with this conversation.

eagle eye

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119627936#Comment_119627936

It was a sensible decision, it was also an analytically correct decision to pass on second down with one timeout.

You don't go with your gut in that spot when you have two more downs to run it. Nobody expected an interception and it really should have been flagged anyway.

The IFs are about the reaction to it which were way out of hand and stupid because it's all coming from the fact that the ball was intercepted which is ridiculous.