Amazing story

Seve OB

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119541877#Comment_119541877

Nobody is denying the odds are crazy.

you have called bullshit on it happening.

are you calling RR a cheat and a liar?

RoadRunner

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119541999#Comment_119541999

I only lie and cheat in cards against humanity 😆

slave1

May have been the Par 3 contest but Ricky and JT shot back to back HIO at The Masters few years back, huge odds but can/does happen.

FixdePitchmark

I know the one in St Mags 100 % happened. I think Finglas your head is gone a bit with the various 50- pointers coming in lately.

But I was reflecting on hole in ones lately, as had one myself. There are a number of factors at play. In my group of golf mates we have had . 5 hole in 1s over about 2 years. But the key thing here Is, I'm hearing about so many hole in ones - because we share information in such a different way. Your read about them in club newsletters - WhatsApp - twitter , you hear about them so much they are almost not as big a deal , your hole in 1 is almost old news too soon. We have a far wider network of people we know stuff about due to information technology.

I'd like to know if we are getting more hole in 1s statistically - It would seem improbable - but more people are playing golf again - gps and lasers are a game changer for distance control - there is literally no guess work. I wonder if there are more hole in ones - would seem improbable , but better golfers do know their distance to within 3 or 4 yards.

At a course if you watch a short par 3 long enough - you always get a close one.

finglashoop

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119555650#Comment_119555650

Paragraph one may be correct.

scout353

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119537529#Comment_119537529

Apparently, this boy Moroz has had 36 holes in one in his career too!!!

The_Kew_Tour

You would have wonder are there many cheats in main tours too.

We all know obvious one at minute and of course the famous one golfer from 90s-00s.

They are only two I have heard of with more than few eye witnesses. You would wonder are there more.

I know a lad who was accused of cheating as a Junior back in late 90s especially in fred daly match. To this day it has still stuck with him even though people I know who play with him saying he could not be more honest now.

But it sticks and stays.

GreeBo

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119541463#Comment_119541463

Cost you an arm and a leg in pints in my club, would never want one in competition!

Break80

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119559414#Comment_119559414

There used be insurance in you GUI Levy to cover the cost of pints in the bar.

Is this gone now?

Seve OB

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119559877#Comment_119559877

Gone years now afaik

GreeBo

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119559877#Comment_119559877

Yeah, you just get entered into a crappy draw now!

redzerdrog

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119540067#Comment_119540067

what's the podcast called?

big_drive

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119561235#Comment_119561235

The Grind

PARlance

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119559877#Comment_119559877

Gone now. Howdidido and Hugo Boss used have a prize of a watch for a hole in one off the back sticks in a competition, but that ended last year.

Know a guy who had a hole in one off the whites in an open day (no watch) and asked our competition secretary if he could "stick himself down for a one" in the next home comp off the blues just so he could get the watch he deserved 🤣

Knowing the guy, I was surprised he asked.

FixdePitchmark

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119562284#Comment_119562284

You were these when someone got a watch 😉

bmc58

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119535766#Comment_119535766

Ohhhh.More to that comment than meets the eye.

IAmTitleist

I have witnessed 5 holes in one in my life. Two at random times as a juvenile probably 20+ years ago now.

Since then i've witnessed 3. And they all came within the space of a week quite incredibly.

First myself, then followed by two of my playing partners. All on different days and at different holes at our home course.

This was about 2012/3 i think and haven't seen one since even though i have played much more golf in the past 4/5 years.

coillcam

Not sure if was posted already but the local PGA branch found the guy's actual lost balls. Not that it wasn't pretty damning stuff already.

https://firepitcollective.com/the-case-against-matt-moroz-mounts/

Rikand

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119583742#Comment_119583742

Well sure didn't he say he lost loads of balls in practice 🤔 😁

stooge

Pin position could play a big part in multiple holes in one on the same course on the same day. The odds are still crazy but a pin position in a hollow on the green or on a slope could increase the chances.

I have never witnessed an ace.

coillcam

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119584099#Comment_119584099

For a lad with such incredible laser guided irons and so many HIO's, he sure does lose an extraordinary amount of balls 🤨. Delighted to see someone like that finally nailed.

There was a professional poker player with a similarly unprecedented stat caught in the last few years. In particular, his win rate in a specific casino was off the charts (a lot of this was live streamed on youtube too, nice to have the video evidence). Ended up being caught out and an employee accomplice was implicated. It got hushed up after the lawsuits and the lad declared bankruptcy. Hopefully, the Moroz guy is never let near a competition again.

Mantis Toboggan

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119584303#Comment_119584303

In our place it's generally the old lads that get the hole in one's, one lad got 2 in two rounds and he's 80 odd. I think it's because they'll take a 3 wood off the tee and run it up, if it hits the pin it's got a great chance.

My ball flight is much higher as I'm probably hitting 8 iron, bounce on the green and short roll. I've never had a hole in one but pitched it to a couple of inches a few times.

slave1

Retired folk tend to play more and off Red Tees, looking forward to this myself

BoardsMember

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119586087#Comment_119586087

Difficult to be too good to have a hole in one?

joebloggs32

On the cheating side as a junior arond age 13 I was playing in an open event in a nearby club for juniors.I was paired up with the son of the captain of the host club. In all my time i never playec with a guy who tried to undercount his score so much on nearly every hole.

He was a poor enough player but every chance he got he was trying it on. I copped in early in the round thankfully and made sure to keep a good tally of his shots on every hole. I suspect it was something he was getting away with playing in his club competitions being the captain's son, but I wasn't going to let him away with it.

Rikand

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119586087#Comment_119586087

I've had 2 of them.

The first was when I was 16 and it was a shot that landed on the green, 1 hop and in.

The second was in my mid 20s with a pitching wedge, but to a green that sloped severely from front to back. It landed on the front edge and rolled 60 feet down the green into the hole.

So you can get hole in ones just as easily either way :D

Macker1

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119588213#Comment_119588213

Not entirely sure that is correct. Maybe in casual rounds people decide to play from forward tees but certainly in my club all players play from the competition tees without exception. It's obviously an issue for those of advancing years that may have lost some distance but that's were the HCP comes into play.

PS I play regular enough golf with some retired players and they are still getting the ball out there far enough.

spacecoyote

Yeah, I've actually never seen a man play from the red tees, in competition or casual rounds.

I don't think a lot of courses are actually rated for men from the reds. They should be, but I don't see it in practice.

In my own place, they do play an alternative senior medal off the yellows, but other than that it's off the same tees for everyone

slave1

It's part of what slows the game down, in Ireland we have Ladies tees, they call them Ladies tees which will discourage an elderly gentleman (I'm talking 80's here folks) from using them. We should do as per other countries and just have coloured tees without denomination so folk can more freely pick and choose the one suitable to them. I book and play a lot of courses and often turn up to have an elderly gent join us (generally play midweek), it's a shame seeing a guy playing the whites when he's no hope of getting near the green or over water and picking up so often, just use the "ladies" tee and enjoy yourself

bigtimecharlie

The original post reminds me of this "cheat":

https://www.heraldscotland.com/news/12120694.banned-professional-rebuilds-career-on-amateur-links-robertson-struggles-to-gain-acceptance/