Should I blackmail my landlord?

Hammer89

I've been living here a few years and I know for a fact he hasn't registered my property. In fact I've known since 2019.

Still, things are relatively amicable between him and I. But times are getting tougher and with this meaty piece of leverage I figure I could save myself a lot of money.

I'm not a bad man, I don't think. The worst thing I've ever did was put a cat into a toy box as punishment, but I was very young and didn't realise it was bad. Now I actually love cats.

But what would stop me from saying something like: "Listen up Mr [redacted]. You fancy yourself as a cute hoor obviously, but I'm cuter. I know how the internet works and I've typed in the address of your house - and my HOME - into the RTB website and low and behold, you're a confirmed cute hoor. I'm not going to shop you to the RTB, but make no mistake that I WILL if you don't let me stay here until March, rent free. The ball is in your court, Mr [redacted]. You're the landlord, but I am the captain now and I will steer me to homelessness and you to the f**king calaboose if you do not comply."

I would no doubt word this a little more subtly. I might use the word prison instead of calaboose, but that's the overall jist. 

Is he the wanker for saving himself a fortune in income tax or would I be the wanker for saving myself a few sheckles to get me through the winter?

Ray Palmer

not registered with RTB does not mean he isn't paying tax. It is a minor offense with a minor fine if they decide to go to court at all

Ash.J.Williams

do you hang out at all together?

enricoh

Nah, you're the w#£ker. Good luck with the house hunting after this one ends- you'll need it!

Hammer89

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119521301#Comment_119521301

I read that tax avoidance is the most common and logical reason for not being registered.

Ray Palmer

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119521319#Comment_119521319

Still doesn't mean tax evasion and the source for that information would be suspect as how could they ever ask people not registered. The RTB are notorious for not being able to handle the transactions and don't update the website. The OP knows nothing

Eclectic Econometrics

Don't stop at just the rent, they'll only know the tables have really turned if you insist on Ius primae noctis with the landlord's daughters and sons.

Danzy

Even the fellow who stole the car in Cabra and put the baby on the side of the road thinks that the op is a bad egg

Hammer89

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119521348#Comment_119521348

Well it's been three years and it isn't showing up on the RTB website so let's assume it isn't a case of the website not being updated and that this landlord, like many landlords, is simply a cute hoor.

Larbre34

You do know that what you're considering is itself an offence under Section 17 of the Criminal Justice Act, 1994? A far more serious matter than failure to register a property.

Please tell me you've at least looked into your own exposure in such a venture.

Hammer89

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119521652#Comment_119521652

Either way I'll have somewhere to live for free for a while 😂

Caranica

House next door to me has been rented for over a decade, not showing up when I search the register but RTB confirmed it is registered. So you can't know for a fact by searching the register online, it's notoriously inaccurate. There are so many ways an address can appear on the register anyway (abbreviations, full stops etc) and that's before typos.

mondeoman72

What an absolute gombeen.

mazdamiatamx5

No, you definitely shouldn't do that. If you need a break on your rent in the short term, what you do is you talk to him directly. No intermediaries, email, phone call or even better face-to-face. And you don't mention, or even hint, that you know he hasn't registered the property. You keep that information to yourself, at least for the time being.

L1011

The RTB register online is not even vaguely accurate, so you may make yourself look exceptionally stupid on that alone. Not even bothering with the rest.

blindsider

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119521658#Comment_119521658

You will - most definitely! This is a sure way to get free accommodation in a nice comfy cell - even if it's only for a short while. You'd make lots of friends in your new accommodation too!

Leg End Reject

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058260363/should-i-blackmail-my-landlord

The important question here is did you let the cat back out of the box?

Day Lewin

Of course blackmail the landlord. He's collecting the lolly, you're paying it.

Of course, -- but do it subtly; just mention lightly that you're leaving next March, you just hope the RTB haven't heard about you...

Hammer89

The bigger question here is how would you definitively check that it's registered without ratting out the landlord in the process? Decisions decisions.

B.A._Baracus

I too like to post shite to the Internet, op.

corner of hells

Blackmail him all the way , I'd also like to welcome you to homeless services.

"Crack" is the in thing in hostel I work in , pretty good for weight loss and losing your inhibitions.

893bet

Do you pay rent in cash?

button_smith

yeah...and you'll get a free stay in the local hospital, courtesy of 'angry upset shady landlord man' !!

Sorolla

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058260363/should-i-blackmail-my-landlord

You are indeed acute hooor.

i wold recommend you send him the terms of the deal by e-Mail.

That way he won’t have a leg to stand on if he reneged on the deal

Ray Palmer

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119521764#Comment_119521764

Go for it and see how it goes. Cowardly and blackmailer go hand in hand, you seem to have decided even though you don't know anything.

Hammer89

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119522524#Comment_119522524

He'll be less upset about it than you are for some reason.

Ray Palmer

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119522591#Comment_119522591

Sure he will, go for it

anewme

Last week you were looking to see a tit for free and this week you want to blackmail the landlord.

I would have thought a man who paid for the Luas would not resort to blackmail.

Very transparent windup OP.

Hammer89

It isn't a wind up. You think anything and everything written with a certain tone is a wind up but it isn't. Sometimes you can be seriously interested in the answer of a question - because this thread and the one about breastfeeding were both QUESTIONS! - and irreverent at the same time. It's not a crime.

NSAman

Maybe offer him sexual favours instead

Jim2007

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119521319#Comment_119521319

For your own sake you should stop now, you are just not good enough to pull it off. Clearly you don’t even know the basics like the difference between tax avoidance and tax evasion, the potential criminal charges you could face and so on. Most likely you’ll end up on the loosing side.

riclad

Your rent for a few months is much larger than the fine for not being registered , back off, threatening your landlord is a bad idea, you could lose your deposit, its very unlikely the landlord is not paying tax on rental income,. I think blackmail is just morally wrong, you should have got a rent book when you moved in. Move out if you can't afford the rent , also you may need a reference from the landlord for the next tenancy you apply for

deirdremf

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058260363/should-i-blackmail-my-landlord

Just report him when you move out, no point in causing hassle for yourself now. He'll get back at you if you do.

touts

It's this type of bullshit by the OP that has every decent part-time landlord selling up because it isn't worth the hassle and risk.

deirdremf

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119523026#Comment_119523026

its very unlikely the landlord is not paying tax on rental income

Now there's a jump (and in the same week that a TD lost his ministerial post for doing dodgy stuff) ... everybody in this state who can avoid paying tax does so.

Landlords are one of the best known categories of tax evaders and tax avoiders. I've had a few dodgy landlords in my time, and my guess is that the reason he isn't on the register is because he is not paying tax on the proceeds.

Leg End Reject

Never mind the rent, was the cat let out of the box?

anewme

Is blackmail not illegal?

Badly Drunk Boy

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119523055#Comment_119523055

And is the cat both dead and alive at the same time?

Hammer89

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119523039#Comment_119523039

My word this is an awful post. Firstly, if the landlords you're talking about were 'decent' then they wouldn't be forced to sell up because of this sort of 'bullshit' because they would be bulletproof against it in the form of having their property registered.

Secondly, are you trying to drum up sympathy for a group of people who own mulitiple homes in a landscape where most people can't even afford one? Talk about privilege.

Hammer89

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119523055#Comment_119523055

Yep and it might be let out of the bag in the near future too.

touts

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119523081#Comment_119523081

Lay off the old Marxist sauce for a while. I'm not talking about bad landlords or guys like Troy owning 11 properties. I'm talking about the couple who are renting out a house one of them might have inherited or an apartment one of them owned before they met and moved in together. People who decided to try renting the property and then ended up with asshole tenants like you blackmailing them. I hope you get turfed out on your arse by the poor landlord and end up living in a tent while someone decent and deserving gets the apartment and the fair landlord.

Leg End Reject

You need old newspapers and prittstick, Hammer. Wear gloves and carefully cut out the letters to compose your blackmail note. Maybe a disguise in case you're caught on CVTV when you post the letter? Actually, best walk with a limp too, can't be too careful after all.

Pick up some cat food on the way back, if the cat eats it it's likely to still be alive.

Hammer89

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119523106#Comment_119523106

You've literally just made up a scenario in your head and are arguing in their favour. Do you know how crazy that is?

Hammer89

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119523130#Comment_119523130

My landlord talking about my tenancy after the ploy goes awry.

anewme

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JU5LMG3WFBw

This absolute tune sums up this fakey thread.

Leg End Reject

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119523135#Comment_119523135

Time to kidnap one of his loved ones and demand a ransom for their release then.

Hold onto the newspapers just in case, the scissors might come in handy too if you need to start cutting off fingers.

Hammer89

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119523140#Comment_119523140

He's from [redacted] so expecting his children to have all their digits is a stretch to begin with 🙂

Hammer89

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119523138#Comment_119523138

Trolling is against the rules here you know. Calling it a 'fakey' thread to bait me, after me already telling you it isn't a fake thread, is obvious trolling. I don't want to rat you out because as far as I can tell you're not a landlord, but come on.

Leg End Reject

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119523147#Comment_119523147

I'm sure they've more than enough ears to get him worried enough to take notice.

glenfieldman

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119523150#Comment_119523150

Fcuking hell OP I hope you get some professional help for your fragile mental health, bitterness comes to mind

dennis72

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058260363/should-i-blackmail-my-landlord

If you did that on me you would b happy to move out voluntarily

What a hateful spiteful ncut....